Hasiera berria / A new beginning
Oso argi geratu denez, Palestina-ren aurkako eraso guztiek helburu bakarra daukate: genozidioa. Ezin da beste modu batez definitu.
Beraz, hemendik aurrera, genozidioaz arituko gara. Ea egoera eta epe berri batean sartuta gauden, to know whether we are in a new time or not.
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US President Harry Truman (1945-1953) stands next to a map showing the State of Palestine.
Israel is not real.
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“I SWEAR TO BE LOYAL TO THE GOVERNMENT OF PALESTINE” SIGNED BY ISRAELIS WHEN EMIGRATING FROM EUROPE IN THE 1930s
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Lord Rothschild Claims His Family Created Israel
Bideoa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUpZT5hEh8Q
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Alison Weir reveals the secret of Israel’s creation:
Bideoa: https://x.com/i/status/1807269838907224331
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UN General Assembly overwhelmingly calls for end of Israeli occupation
Read the resolutions text here: https://www.un.org/unispal/icj-and-question-of-palestine
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Dr. Anastasia Maria Loupis@DrLoupis
The occupation of Palestinian land began 107 years ago today, in 1917.
The Balfour Declaration, issued by the British government on November 2, 1917, expressed support for the establishment of “a national home for the Jewish people” in Palestine.
This declaration was conveyed through a letter written by then-Foreign Secretary Arthur James Balfour to Lord Lionel Walter Rothschild, a prominent figure in the British Jewish community.
The declaration states:
“His Majesty’s Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.”
This date represents the first official support for Zionist goals, ultimately leading, 30 years later, to the establishment of the State of Israel on occupied Palestinian land.
The Balfour Declaration played a significant role in shaping more than a century of ongoing war and chaos in the Middle East, culminating in the establishment of an Israeli state on Palestinian territory in 1948.
Today, the Balfour Declaration, in its outcomes, is seen as the foundation for the ongoing genocide, which in the past year alone has resulted in the death of more than 40,000 Palestinians, reflecting a failure to protect the historical and human rights of the Palestinian population in the region.
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(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuK97E07b2Q)
?La creación del Estado de Israel no responde a un desarrollo lógico de la historia, sino que la creación de este Estado es fruto de las confabulaciones políticas internacionales en las que participaron gustosamente los sionistas. Theodor Herzl fijó una hoja de ruta para crear el Estado judío y sus seguidores continuaron su legado. Antes de la creación de Israel en mayo de 1948, los británicos pusieron la primera piedra con la Declaración Balfour, la cual permitió crear el Hogar Nacional Judío, pero ¿cómo se gestó la Declaración Balfour? Quedaros hasta el final porque en este video os voy a hablar sobre la Declaración Balfour y todo lo que hubo detrás de esta promesa británica. ?
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Palestine is the most well-documented genocide in history, yet the most denied.
Bideoa: https://x.com/i/status/1855599445863223457
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Don’t stop talking about Gaza
Aipamena
Suppressed News.@SuppressedNws
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BREAKING: While Netanyahu spoke about a ceasefire in Lebanon, the Israeli air force continued to bomb Gaza relentlessly resulting in a massacre in Al-Zaytoun Neighborhood.
Bideoa: https://x.com/i/status/1861490680226340887
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Premio Ignacio Ellacuría 2024 Bárbara Ruiz Delegada en Euskadi de la Agencia de ONU para la población refugiada de Palestina (UNRWA)
“Hay que seguir con Palestina, no podemos permitirnos perder la esperanza ni desesperarnos”
La delegada de UNRWA en Euskadi, Bárbara Ruiz, pide seguir teniendo presente la situación en Gaza y no perder la esperanza aunque sean “momentos muy oscuros”
Idoia Alonso NTM
Bilbao | 28·11·24
Barbara Ruiz Balzola, delegada de UNRWA en Euskadi. Irekia
La Agencia de Naciones Unidas para la población refugiada de Palestina (UNRWA, según sus siglas en inglés) recibirá el Premio Ignacio Ellacuría 2024 que concede el Gobierno vasco a través de eLankidetza-Agencia Vasca de Cooperación y Solidaridad. El jurado ha querido realizar un reconocimiento a la Agencia “por su compromiso, trayectoria y dedicación vital durante 75 años con el pueblo palestino en un contexto de conflictos continuos”. De UNRWA destaca, además, “el lado más humano del trabajo directo que realiza a favor de la justicia y de los derechos humanos con la población palestina”. El jurado concluye que merece recoger el premio“por el riesgo real de desaparecer; ya que implicaría quitar el derecho a refugio a la población palestina y el derecho de retorno a sus tierras y hogares”, haciendo alusión a la criminalización que sufre UNRWA.
¿Cómo está en estos momentos la situación en Gaza?
— Es una situación extremadamente preocupante y grave. Llevamos ya 13 meses de masacres sin precedentes, tanto en el número de personas asesinadas, como en el grado de destrucción de infraestructuras, también el nivel de desplazamiento forzoso al que se ha sometido la población y el uso del agua y del hambre como armas de guerra. Esta situación ha sumido a toda la población civil en una situación de supervivencia diaria y sólo cuenta con la ayuda humanitaria para poder salir adelante. Por otro lado, se está obstaculizando muchísimo la entrada de ayuda humanitaria y cada vez tenemos más difícil poder trabajar como queremos.
Recientemente, la relatora especial de la ONU sobre la situación de los Derechos Humanos para los territorios palestinos ocupados ha denunciado que hay indicios de genocidio también en Cisjordania y Jerusalén Este.
— En el caso de Cisjordania la situación también es tremendamente grave, aunque no está recibiendo tanto foco mediático. Pero sí, es cierto que desde el 7 de octubre se han acelerado tanto las incursiones militares en campamentos de personas refugiadas, la violencia colona y se ha limitado aún más la libertad de movimiento. Esto está llevando a que la población esté perdiendo sus medios de vida, está entrando cada vez más en vulnerabilidad y, bueno, además se ha acelerado la política de construcción de asentamientos. Con lo cual es uno de los peores momentos para el territorio palestino ocupado.
El mes pasado, el Gobierno de Netanyahu aprobó una ley que prohibe la actividad de la UNRWA en el país bajo la acusación de “terrorismo” y de ser “aliada” de Hamás. ¿Cómo les está afectando?
— Estas medidas todavía no han entrado en vigor, se ha dado un plazo de tres meses, pero estamos buscando una alternativa. Nosotras seguimos trabajando con normalidad, entre comillas. Lo que sí es cierto es que nuestros compañeros y compañeras allí están evidentemente angustiados. Están pasando un tiempo complicado porque se ha intensificado, y antes de la aprobación de esta ley, el hostigamiento hacia los trabajadores, incluida nuestra sede de Jerusalén Este, que fue incendiada hace unos meses. Sí, existe esa preocupación de falta de seguridad, pero ahora mismo seguimos trabajando.
¿Por qué el gobierno de Benjamín Netanyahu tiene a UNRWA en su punto de mira?
— El gobierno israelí siempre ha mirado con recelo a UNRWA, pero estos últimos tres meses se ha acelerado. La explicación es sencilla, creen que eliminando a UNRWA se elimina la cuestión de los refugiados de Palestina, que perderían su estatus. Pero ese estatus lo tienen garantizado por una resolución de la Asamblea General de Naciones Unidas que es distinta a la que creó UNRWA, y sus derechos están contemplados ahí. Con lo cual, no es cierto que desapareciendo UNRWA desaparecen ellos. Es un intento de neutralizar a la Agencia y de esta manera cambiar los parámetros políticos que se ha fijado la comunidad internacional para encontrar una solución justa y definitiva a la situación de esta comunidad.
Desde siempre, Euskadi ha sido un pueblo solidario con la causa palestina. ¿Qué podemos seguir haciendo desde casa en la solución de este genocidio?
— Pues lo primero es seguir informándose críticamente de medios fiables y seguir hablando de lo que está pasando. La cooperación vasca tradicionalmente ha apoyado mucho a Palestina. Y en el caso de UNRWA, para nosotras la alianza con el Gobierno vasco a través de la Agencia Vasca de Cooperación y otros donantes vascos es muy fuerte y estrecha. Yo creo que es justo y necesario que la ciudadanía también conozca cómo estas políticas de cooperación, al final, están salvando vidas, porque esto es una aportación de toda la ciudadanía.
¿Hay motivos para la esperanza?
— A nivel particular, yo diría que hay que seguir hablando de Palestina y que, a pesar de que sean tiempos muy oscuros, no podemos perder la esperanza, ni desesperarnos. Tenemos que seguir ahí, porque la situación no tiene precedentes y sienta un antecedente muy grave para cómo se van a conducir a partir de ahora a todos los conflictos. Es difícil vaticinar los movimientos a nivel regional e internacional en Oriente Próximo, pero no podemos permitirnos el lujo de perder la esperanza. Tenemos que seguir apoyando a la población refugiada palestina y a la población palestina en general, porque son los primeros perjudicados. Pero también lo es la comunidad internacional, y nosotros también estamos siendo víctimas cuando se producen toda una serie de atropellos al derecho internacional, en especial al derecho internacional humanitario. Ya que, como digo, sienta un precedente terrible para el futuro porque que pone en peligro a cualquier persona que se encuentre bajo una guerra.
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INTERVIEW: Dr. Dan Steinbock on Israel’s Failing Politics, Economy & Military, the ICC ruling and more. https://youtube.com/watch?v=6D8ldei1q0M
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Dr. Dan Steinbock: Israel’s Failing Politics, Economy & Military
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D8ldei1q0M=
Transkripzioa:
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hi everybody today is Wednesday November 27th and Dr Dan Steinbach is here with
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us he’s the author of the book called the fall of Israel was published this
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year in 2024 and it’s available on Amazon and welcome back there thank you
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pleasure to be here yeah let’s get started with what’s going on
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right now in the West Asia the situation between Israel and Lebanon how do you
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find this ceasefire and how important is this right now are we heading towards
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some sort of permanent ceasefire I would seriously doubt
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it I think that if one we cynical one might say that this is a Thanksgiving
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gift uh to to the Biden Administration it was timed right before
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that so the people can have a not a guilty conscience and enjoy the
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food um I’m being perhaps a little bit too cynical about it but U most importantly the important thing is that
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there is a ceasefire will it be permanent that would be impossible to say at this juncture I would think that
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um it is now very much in the interest of the Nan cabinet to take a brief
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Breather Breather and take some distance and honestly U it remains to be seen
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whether this is a sort of a path to the peace or uh you know come before a storm
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I think that it would be naive to think that this is a pathway to the peace it
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doesn’t mean inevitably that it would have to end up in volatile conditions either I I think it’s a step towards the
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right direction and I think that the uh result here has been problematic to
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all parties uh concerned um I’ve been personally very
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concerned about the fact that last time when we met I said that uh uh what
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happens in Gaza won’t stay in Gaza and I felt that what happens in southern libanon is just a Prelude to the Future
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in that as um there was a not the heart blanch but um the events of of Gaza let
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us say were allowed to happen now um it’s easier
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to copy and paste them elsewhere as the Israeli leadership has made it very clear and this is very dangerous it’s
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dangerous when it happens in the neighborhood of Israel it’s far more dangerous this go beyond that in the
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Middle East and it could conceivably happen elsewhere maybe in Eastern Europe it could happen in uh southeast Asia
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tyum Straits and so on so forth I think that what has happened in Gaza and what is
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happening in Lebanon involves too many civilians or mainly civilians 70% women
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and children and elderly and I for the best of me I can’t see how they would be strategic Assets in any geopolitical or
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military sense yeah we had IC arrest warrant for n and
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former Defense Minister of Israel y of Galant how do you see the importance of
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this decision on the part of IC and how did you find the reactions to this
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decision on their part well um I think it was a surprise
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to those who who thought that what has happened can simply be
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ignored um it should not be a shock to anybody um I think this is a least that
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should happen uh of course you start with the personalities the actors that played a
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critical role as decision makers but we should really also think in terms of the
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cabinet as a whole or all those who were involved with the decisions that pav the
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way to uh and uh to the actual events um
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in Gaza uh it’s not just the the Prime Minister and the defense minister others
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are involved now having said that I think that even though it was a surprise to many it wasn’t a surprise to those
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who have now followed this case since uh December the and these various Lawes
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against the Israeli government uh in the name of international law so uh when the
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international criminal court in the he now issued arrest warrants against the prime minister of Israel and the former
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Defense Minister it’s a situation where the Pandoras boook has now been opened and
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the question is what happens uh next it’s not entirely clear what the judges
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based their decision upon seems to be the case that is still based on um few
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events uh attacks on hospitals prevention of the entry to humanitarian
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Aid and deliberate attacks on Palestinian civilians uh un special repur have been
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reporting about a massive amount of cases and incidents my book the fall of Israel uh
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lists quite a few of those and certainly I feel the international humanitarian
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law has been violated in so many ways now what does it mean then really if you think about it um I think that
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what it means immediately is that for the Prime Minister Netanyahu may think twice visiting those over 120 countries
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that are signatories to the Rome statute uh he has to feel the fear that
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he might be arrested uh a similar or or
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condemnation was given to President Putin quite a while ago and that
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happened very soon after the Russian so-called special military operation in
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in the Ukraine uh this one took quite a long time compared to that even though
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here we’re talking about genocidal atrocities and one wonders why setting that aside uh it makes things a bit
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difficult now the leadership in Israel uh United States is not signatory of the
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treaty and the Trump Administration most likely will take a hostile stance towards the ICC the Biden Administration
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already had has taken a quite negative stance but it serves their interest if a
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case is being made and this is likely to continue in the he there may be laws
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that will challenge the Biden Administration the president secretary
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of the state and so on so naturally it is in their interest to say that what happened in Gaza is not a genocide as
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Secretary of St State Biden has said several times and as Pres Biden has
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said um it also creates some intriguing situations in terms of the weapons
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embargo uh by additional Western countries I mean how is one to look say
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the position of Germany in this regard now us as far as we know has been U
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responsible for maybe 70% of the military supplies to Israel so that’s certainly the most critical player
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but Germany has a quite sign significant role as well and then there are the
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minor issues or the minor play like Italy UK Canada and so on and so forth
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what about their leaders are they complicit uh what is the natureal complicity here and so on and so forth
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uh I see maybe uh two or three scenarios how this might um continue or what might
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happen next yeah in those scenarios in your
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opinion because we’ve learned from we have some sort of division in the Western countries you’ve mentioned
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Canada Italy and even in the United Kingdom the majority of people is not
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about the government the majority of people in the recent poll in in the United Kingdom show they’re in favor of
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arresting n if he goes to the United Kingdom
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but just we had some sort of unity when
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it when when it comes to the conflict in Ukraine between European countries and
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the United States but in for the case of Gaza for the case of the West Asia we
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have some sort of division between European countries and the United States
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because right now most of the European countries are in favor of what IC has
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issued and but the United States saying now is not it’s against our way of
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thinking that we we we don’t abide by these type of decisions and as far as I know just the
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government in Hungary is against this new decision how do you find this
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division between the European countries and the United States and how is it going to play for
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na I think it’s a very intriguing and compli situation also because in the US
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right now you have a transition of power so it’s not very clear who speaks in the name of whom right now the traditional
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saying who do you call when you want to call Europe now applies to us as well at
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least until the end of January now if you look at the US situation first of all I’d like to recall the fact
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that this war the Gaza War I think has
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been a GameChanger in the sense that there is a huge gap between Americans
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themselves the younger Generations when you look at them they understand understand what this is all about
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there’s a very strong sympathy towards Palestinians and this I think it’s not necessarily that you are pro Palestinian
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or pro Israel if you’re Pro truth you cannot allow a genocide under any any
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circumstances uh but there is that Gap and the administration I think is
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alienated from the younger age groups in the United States entirely and even the
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older ones are divided when it comes to nitt greting however when you look at the transition from the Biden
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Administration to the Trump Administration we’ll probably see a situation to worse from it was before it
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will be even more gangho in terms of the Israeli interest that’s why I think that
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uh Premier nany Prime netan is now willing to have a ceasefire in Lebanon
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as well if you look at the European case then it gets even more interesting and more complex we already see that the
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so-call unity in terms of Ukraine and Europe is crack
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partly because um most countries know that when the Trump Administration will come in most likely they will be out to
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military operations that explains the aggressiveness on the part of Ukraine and on the part of Russia right
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now if you look at the top of the EU the foreign chief of EU yph Borel I think
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that he made it very clear that uh it’s not a question of being pro this or unto
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that it is a question of abiding by the rules and if this is the decision of the
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ICC then European Union as a whole must go with it and my understanding even
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though yse Borel is not exactly your your best anticolonial example he himself gave all kind of statements not
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so long ago about the role of Europe and its history but nonetheless in this case I think that it’s a very reasonable
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stance now if you look at what would actually then happen under these circumstances with all this complexity I
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think you have three scenarios you have one which would be the one that I think the US would prefer
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to have delit delegitimation in other words you will either ignore or strongly criticize IC
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you will stop funding it you will certainly try to tarnish it uh and some people among the Republicans would
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probably like to collapse the entirety I I think overall overall us Administration would like to keep it
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going but keep it going in the name of the US interest and this is going to be very hard when more than
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120 countries are now basically going with the decision of the
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IC there’s another option but I think time may have been passed in this one and that would be
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cooptation in other words there was a very wellknown and very uh strong understanding within
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Israel that this decision might come especially after we heard the arguments
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in the South African case against Israel and others thereafter and the thinking
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was that if an internal Israeli investigation would have happened would have taken off it might have convinced
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the world Court to freeze the warrants at least temporarily Israel’s own attorney general made a big point about
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this not so long ago telling the government for month after month that the best way to combat the warrants and
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other threats in the international legal Arena would be to announce formation of national Commission of inquiry into what
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actually happened October 7 and the Gaza Bo itself now the question is why did Netanyahu government not go with it they
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had a chance to contain this of course in the wrong way but they had a chance to do
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so um and actually even the people who were presenting this argument were
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partly from his own party um but I think that prime minister Netanyahu since he has most at State and
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his own trial for bribery will start I think December the 2nd very soon um he
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doesn’t want to have this kind of an inquiry for a couple of reasons most important being that you will then
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acknowledge that something went wrong on October 7 and possibly something went wrong with the conducting the Gaza War
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itself this would be Mana from Heaven to the Israeli opposition and to many people inally could the party of prime
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minister n but it wouldn’t be so for him or the far right who are now in his
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government they don’t want to this have this kind of Investigation they are willing to have it when War is Over
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they’ve had their will and Case Closed there’s still a third option and that’s a model through you won’t have this you
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won’t have that is will continue to push Americans will do their best to ignore
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it pressure Europeans to hell of a lot so that they wouldn’t go with it and we also already see certain
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um cracks in the European front I mean soon after this decision was made the um
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Hungarian government announced that it would invite Netanyahu for a visit to buest even though conceivably they
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should abide by these rules now that was sign of course from prime minister Victor Orban that we are willing to play
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ball and and his political views and those of Netanyahu to a degree not entirely but to a degree there are
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similarities um more interesting are the cases you mentioned which would be United Kingdom France um and and Germany
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Italy now it seems to be at least if you take them at face value
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Germany uh and uh uh excuse me United Kingdom and France stand behind the ID
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decision that remains to be tested and I think it will be tested at some point but then there’s a question of Italy
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where the political leadership also is closer to the Netanyahu cabinet partly
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composing encompassing the far right elements of the Italian society and they
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didn’t speak against this decision but they say it would be hard to see how this might be implemented and so so
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forth and a minor form of this kind of an argument was presented in Germany but
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Germany is heading towards election and as a result the president leadership is
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sort of a l du position has L du position a bit like the Biden Administration currently so so these
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three options I think are the relevant ones de imation I don’t believe in the collapse Theory though or the cooptation
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but I think that Israelis are late they can’t do anything any longer if they now start a commission it’s not very
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believable it’s not very credible if it was anything like that in the first place and thirdly then this muddling
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through approach which may be what we will see what’s so amazing about Israel is
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that the government under net know is so much dependent on him on him and the way
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he’s thinking even with this Invasion or incursion in the
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southern part of Lebanon we had Gant he he was not agreeing with n at the end of
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the day n was came out of this Victorious and he could change him and
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he could go to the southern part of land which was failed as we know as right now one of the main
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reasons for this seire is they couldn’t achieve what they wanted to achieve they thought that they’re going to advance so
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fast with those assassination all of all of those with with the bombing of the
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amunition of Hezbollah they’ve thought that it could be much it could be much easier for them
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but do you see how do you see the role of Nao in what’s going on right now in Israel because we are talking about the
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farite but the face of the farite is for me is nael and the way that he’s
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thinking that he’s transforming the society in Israel true uh I think that U well this
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is a hell of a long question because it would take us really to look at the history of the far um which we don’t entirely have time
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to but I think you could also reverse one could reverse what you just said in that if the fate of the far right is Nan
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the fate of Nan is the far right they are now in a very strange symbiotic relationship that’s uncomfortable to
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Netanyahu and uncomfortable I’m sure also to to the farad I think about it uh
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if you look at the geopolitical aspect of the story the primary objective of
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the liid party led by minin the first Prime Minister who took really
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government responsibility for liud 1977 in Israel um the primary objective at the
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time was to take over seni and uh and or keep
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seni keep West Bank take over Southern Lebanon up to
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the lithany river which is what we have seen once again happening and some thought even going
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further in terms of going further from Jordan towards Saudi Arabia those objectives I think have been buried a
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long time ago but there is this deep seated faith into that for security
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reasons uh unfortunately after the sixth day war all of the security ethos was
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then compounded by the religious ethos uh actually we don’t need these areas
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just for National Security God gave them to us and this is where the uh far ride
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gradually comes in particularly the Messianic far right uh Rabbi cook and
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their disciples in Israel these rabis who preach basically ideas that I read
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and talk about in the book The Fall of Israel as Jewish Supremacy Doctrine these ideas were basically that
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we are approaching the end of times and ultimately there will be a Temple mount that will be Jewish and Messiah will
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come and so on so forth few Israelis cared too much about this until 1967
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after that a few more started to listen because it seemed to go with the sign of times until you had the attrition war in
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in the 1970s then you had the Yon kipur War where the triumphant image of
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invisibility of the Israelis was crumbling and crushed and something else
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came instead but that’s where you have then this strong relationship between the US and and Israel in military
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terms but when I go back and think of those days if I may very briefly I have
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never forgotten and I talk in a book about it my meeting with rabie Mahan most of the far right in Israel
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particularly those who are in the cabinet either had been in his party K which was then forbidden by the Israeli
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knesset U but they have now new parties with different names that basically are pushing the same ideas that have not
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been forbidden and when I met him 1974 it took a long time to to have that meeting
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I came from another meeting with the peace now movement where my affinities lie but I wanted to see what kind of
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adversaries does peace have and at the time I didn’t know how meaningful and how important he would be for the future
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Israeli Parise this was a man of who was a master of hate I don’t want to
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demonize him but he was unable to say the word Arab or Palestinian without the
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sense of condensation without the sense of aggression or or or uh or anger and
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his idea was simply that this land belongs to us we need to have voluntary transfers of Palestinians they need to
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leave peace pefully and if they don’t we have to throw them out he said it very clearly until he started deluding his
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message in order to get to the parliament which he was able to pull out and he believed that as he said uh
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democracy is a go thing democracy is not for the Jews autocracy is and better even better Jewish
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theocracy um so these ideas in 1974 1975 were so absurd at the time when I was
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protesting the settlements in the West Bank uh to hear this sounded crazy at the time there were
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only 3,000 settlers in gimm and other settlements in the West Bank now there
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are 700,000 800,000 and not all of them think like this but I would say at least there’s 10
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to 20 20% hardcore Believers and many of them are violent engaging in um
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anti-arab programs and have done so for a very long time they should be behind prison in in the prison behind the bars
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not outside but it’s from those um uh traditions of jsh Supremacy thinking of
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violent extremism and so on so forth that’s this kind of ideology comes from
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and uh it gradually got stronger you had the Jewish underground violent formations 1980s people said oh these
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are lonely wolves but they weren’t when I was researching my book turns out that
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most of those people Israelis who were behind the terrorist attacks against say the resident mayors in the 80s they
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belong to one or two or three organizations usually the extreme fire sett settler organizations or RAB May
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Kahan K party or its ancillary organization and so on so forth there were always
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disconnections people didn’t recognize it until the assassination of Rabin which happened by an extreme far
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right uh uh uh activist who was religious in barani University in Israel
24:29
and who was also studying law and who thought that he’s doing a service to the
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nation of Israel because there was a certain interpretation of biblical law that if you are able to preempt a person
24:42
who would attack the Israelis you are entitled to do so for religious reasons after that the peace process
24:49
crumbles and thereafter the far right that used to be mostly in the margin starts to March into the institutions
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its time had come and if you look at the trajectory the political trajectory you will find that farri thinking and ideas
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started to spread more and more into the parties that were to the right of leud
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uh around from 2000 to 2015 and thereafter after several Wars
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in Gaza they got stronger with these voices but even then they were in the margins the big change really happened
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when prime minister Netanyahu opened the door to the cabinet he invited people who had been imprisoned in Israel in 80s
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and ’90s and gu one of the ministers actually prided himself and was threatening the
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assassination of Rabin prior to the assassination itself so these guys are now in the
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government what else can you expect but their power is not Limitless the problem
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is this if Netanyahu aners the far right meaning these parties and they walk out
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he will have probably a majority in of one or two seats he doesn’t want that he
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wants to keep the far right farite would prefer to have a more far right government they can’t have it because
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most Israelis don’t think that way yet but unfortunately demographics is working for these parties and the anger
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and the the hostility and the US military aid as long as you are rewarded
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for what should be penalized by international law these Trends are likely to continue I’m
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afraid do you think that Donald Trump being in office again in Washington
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would help Netanyahu and his movement and his party and the way that he’s thinking in Israel
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or we know it in the case of Donald Trump it’s so tricky when he you think
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about him he’s people are talking that he’s a far
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right he’s not far right he’s he’s he’s playing to be a republican candid but we
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know at the end of the day the way that he he’s thinking he’s not connected to the Republican or Democratic party but
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at the end of the day when you look at these people who are going to work with him in his administration we can
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understand where he’s where would be his Destiny in terms of the policies in
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Israel and in in the West Asia do you think that Donald Trump’s presidency
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would help Neto and his movement and his
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party the short answer is yes and uh the long answer I think would
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have to have two sides one what happened to the Trump one Administration and we don’t know what
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will happen with the Trump to but we do know and have an idea who will be in his
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administration regarding the Middle East policies so if you look at the past and think that that might give an idea where
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we’re going it’s it’s not very optimistic from the point of view of the Palestinian position and I would argue
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even from the point of view of the Middle East overall not to mention the Arab League Arab countries
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overall um if you think about it when the Trump Administration came to the White House in early 2017 one of the
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first things he did was making David and fredman the US ambassador to Israel now
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Ambassador usually should be a career Diplomat or at least in this kind of a prestigious and very sensitive role this
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was not the case here Freeman belonged to was a very strong Zionist uh uh
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supporter but not only Zionist but revisionist Zionist in other words he supported the tough line of men and
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begging the former head of the iron terrorist group who then became prime minister of Israel in 1977 his
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successor um Shak Shamir used to be the head of one of the heads of Stan group
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also very strong extremist groups had far right and far left within that group
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they were in charge of the bombing of King David Hotel 1947 and he been became prime minister before nany at one point
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he was a mentor to Nan so these were the people where the
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ambassador of us uh that he saw as his kind of affinities his his sort of a
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support group if you will uh and he was also a strong supporter financially of the settlements in Israel which are
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illegal by international law but it wasn’t just that other things happen very quickly Netanyahu announced that
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Israel would lift all restrictions of settlement Construction in the West Bank that still prevailed in the Obama
29:40
Administration so the flood gates were open more settlements more and better
29:45
larger more attacks also against the Palestinians and the West Bank uh at the
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same time Trump had I believe some doubts and I talk about this in the book
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had some doubts about the Prime Minister Nan what we do know roughly certainly is that when he
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came for his visit he did meet um Mohammad abas the head of Palestinian
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Authority at the time and he was given he met first Prim Minister Netanyahu
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Netanyahu showed him a a tape asked him to listen to a tape which probably
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presumably had abas calling for killing on Israeli children now the Secretary of
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State at the time Rex Stillers said that this is a fake this state is a fake
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Netanyahu has done this before don’t don’t take it for real next day Trump
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meets abas calls him a murderer and liar and said that you tricked me and there
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after it was all free fall in terms that the uh Jerusalem was made the capital of
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Israel and thereby the US Embassy was moved from telev to Jerusalem and
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Decades of US policy uh towards Jerusalem was reversed BAS overnight at the same time something
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even more interesting happened and that was the first major US military base
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comes to Israel I remember the years from the 70s onward uh the idea of a American
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Military Base in Israel was inconceivable Israel is were very tight about their sovereignty they had always
31:19
been dependent on others so they wanted to be sure and rely on their own hands only some Israelis of course felt that
31:25
this is great but there are no free l with the United States or any other major power they come with strings
31:31
attached so if there’s a missile attack sometimes the question of life and death might be a question of 5 to 15 seconds
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and those seconds will be U uh the decisions that will be
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done may not happen in Israel they may happen in pentagon or White House so
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some Israel generals saw that as a loss of sovereignty it’s not a simple thing to happen and then of course the Trump
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Administration withdrew from the Iran nuclear deal that the Obama Administration Bush Administration and
32:06
others had been negotiating for years and years that was ended and Trump
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ordered the closure of PL office in Washington DC canceled all USA to West Bank and Gaza and annual Aid given to
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the own even worse then it annexed the Golan Heights which is uh as I
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understand a full violation with the UN Security Council resolution 497 but the biggest thing of all
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probably was this uh the Abraham Accords which was an effort to unite um the gulf
32:39
countries under the same umbrella work with the United States create a comprehensive
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peace and uh this is as far as he got then he lost
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the his second term Biden comes in Biden doesn’t want to talk about the Abraham
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Accord so he talked about normalization but it’s the same thing now he could have questioned this approach to the
33:02
Middle East he could have reversed the decision on Jerusalem simply stating that this is not according to US policy
33:08
he didn’t do it he could have reversed decision about colen Heights he didn’t do it so all of these things were
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allowed to happen during the Trump Administration and the Biden Administration and I have no doubt it would have been the same with the Harris
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Administration should that have happened it probably would not have been the same with the center’s Administration which
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will never happen exactly for that reason um but B has made that’s that’s
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the case so if the past is guidance to the Future uh I don’t see too much hope
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in terms of what’s ahead um but as you mentioned Trump is extremely
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unpredictable and volatile and this will be his last ter uh whatever happens and I think that
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in the back of a his mind might be the idea of creating peace but when he talks about it people think oh peace uniting
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the Israelis Palestinians finally permanent ceas fire entire Middle East pacified we can finally build prosperity
34:08
and development I’m not sure he thinks about that I think he thinks about uh
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Saud Arabia and other countries joining the uh Abraham cords but that will be
34:19
very hard to achieve because of the Gaza B uh it will be very hard for Saudi
34:26
Arabia to take that sort of a that when the future of Palestine the future of Gaza is in question we don’t know what
34:32
will happen with Gaza at all is it even inhabitable for years or decades so something has to be done about that then
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there’s a bigger question we can talk more about that uh later perhaps which is for the Biden Administration the
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grand bargain which is another term for Abraham mord means the ejection of China
34:53
from the Middle East and I’m not quite sure most uh Middle Eastern countries would accept that just like in the
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southeast Asia Latin America and subsaharan Africa Chinese investment I
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think overall has been positive it is built on business it is based on uh
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peace stability and then building Prosperity but American approach is very
35:16
different it’s us regime changes and and the destabilization and these models can’t
35:22
be reconciled so what will happen next has a lot to do with the appointments of
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the Trump Administration which are we are now beginning to see where they go I think the point you’ve raised is so
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important right now because the way that everything is changing in the in
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the West Asia in the Middle East is so important if the not the United States
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if I’m not talking about just the Biden Administration the Trump Administration which would be in office in 2025 and
35:55
which would be responsible for most of the things in the future do you think they understand
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what’s going on in the West Asia right now because as You’ mentioned the picture the the the relationship between
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these Arab countries and even with Iran and turkey it’s to has totally changed
36:16
during these years of Biden presidency and is that going to be taken
36:24
into account for the Donald Trump Administration or they’re going to because the way that
36:30
they’re talking about China right now they have to make some sort of Moves In The West Asia to achieve their goals the
36:39
goal the goal that they have in their mind but it doesn’t seem that would be the case for the United States as long
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as I know the the they don’t have any sort of Leverage on Israel they didn’t
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show it so far because in terms of the ra prma between Saudi Arabia and Iran
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and the way that turkey is just cutting all of the ties with Israel
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it’s unbelievable the situation in the West Asia it’s it’s totally different
37:13
from what we’ve seen in the first term of Donald Trump and right now are they going to
37:19
consider all these changes if they want to fight China let’s assume that do they
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really consider being more closer to to these countries and they cannot make any
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sort of I in my opinion ation between Iran and Saudi Arabia right now they’re
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talking to each other they’re it’s not perfect but they’re
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improving there is no difference right now it much more it’s all about Unity if
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you remember the the The Summit in Saudi Arabia and we had more than 60 countries
37:54
participating Sunni Shia all together and how is it going to be considered in
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Trump Administration or even in the remaining days of the Biden
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Administration um this is why I I said earlier that there’s a one might look at
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what happens right now as a come before the storm because when you have ironable
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uh models coming together um it’s hard to see how that
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can end in a very peaceful way uh but looking at the matter at hand then um
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first of all if you look at the role of China China’s role in the Middle East is
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very different from that of the US although people nowadays say that oh China has its role us has its role but
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think about the beginning when the US created its role it basically own owned
38:50
or control dominated 50% of the world economy uh when China came to the Middle
38:56
East it’s this Ro was still relatively minor and still is compared with the US and uh U and it certainly doesn’t have
39:03
the military muscle that the US has and it certainly doesn’t have the political muscle that us has had as the architect
39:10
of the post 1945 World which still rules even though the environmental conditions
39:16
have totally changed that is my concern exactly what you mentioned because this
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huge contradiction between the stated reality and the actual reality
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my sense is and um while in the US I constantly talked about it why would it
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be so problematic to acknowledge the multipolar world when it’s economically
39:39
already the reality and it’s not away from the US welfare at all it
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contributes to it um if you create a clash then obviously it will follow if
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you look at the China’s role I think that particularly regarding the Middle East the fact that he was able to
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negotiate or serve as an intermediary between Saudi Arabia and Iran after seven years was it of of hostilities
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ambivalent skepticism criticism and so on so forth was magnificent now one of
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the major obstacles who working together had been set aside but think about it in
40:18
reverse if you think that AIS of resistance as Iran would call it and
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many Arab countries would call it but AES of disorder as Secretary of State uh
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blink might call it uh there’s a big difference in the way Americans see this
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they see it as appeasing terrorism appeasing um insurgence and so on so
40:45
forth um there is little understanding that when you have uh when you have
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military efforts to control people that almost always results in in Insurgency
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which can then be fought with counterinsurgency which is what Western countries have done since colonialism
41:06
and it has never worked too well it has always led to more people dying or or in
41:11
unwarranted Wars as I might argue so but this was a great
41:17
achievement of China first the second was negotiating and serve it as an intermediary between these different
41:23
Palestinian groups so that they could unify their front in the future negotiations now take the other point of
41:30
view which really is saying we don’t care about the two-state solution uh officially we have to
41:36
support it we talked about it we pledge in the name of it we are not doing anything that would U Advance it that
41:43
would be the net effect of what we see the the reality as opposed the official
41:49
status quo so these efforts to unify ranks by China and deescalate seem to be
41:56
contradicting by the opposite forces that have been relatively benign um if one can use even
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that term until now but that might become stronger we should remember that it was under the Trump Administration
42:10
that General solman was assassinated most likely in cooperation between the US and Israel in in in January 2020 and
42:19
uh this is violation of another country sovereignty if you will and those attacks have happened byra also in Syria
42:25
and elsewhere um one would be more optimistic if the
42:31
people who are now joining the coming Trump Administration might be different and what might even argue that sometimes
42:38
Trump talks in ways that you might think that there there is room for peace and this is something that he might want
42:45
there is a non-intervention streak in his thinking one parameter would be to
42:50
look at what happens to tul Gard one of the appes on the intelligence side um
42:57
she has been pretty much Trashed by the pro Biden Administration for being a
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quote unquote Russian asset and God knows what a a a demon Beyond pale
43:09
whereas when you look very carefully what she has said actually indicates I think a non-interventionist
43:15
understanding of the world and how it works so the question is will her nomination her appointment lasts or not
43:20
when it goes to the Congress she will face a very hostile Congress but you look at the other names and it’s not a
43:25
very good picture for for instance the Trump’s choice for Secretary of Defense Pete
43:30
hexa um he openly affiliates with groups that identify with Christian
43:36
nationalism uh is on the record saying that Zionism and americanism are at the Forefront of for western civilization
43:43
and freedom and I was somewhat um apprehensive and stunned when I found out that he supports the so-called
43:49
Temple Mount movement in other words the movement that supports the proactive
43:55
building of a Jewish temple in that area which is so important to so
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many religions particularly to Islam and Christianity that would be the prime way to cause extraordinary destabilization
44:07
and pain in the Middle East but he supports it apparently then you have uh
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uh the new ambassador to Israel Arkansas Governor Mike kabe who adheres to the
44:18
Christian Evangelical belief that the return of the Jews to Israel validates the biblical narrative and he’s on the
44:25
record saying that there is no Palestinian Nation really and he doesn’t even recognize West Bank um this will
44:32
create a very interesting situation when he will meet members hopefully will be members of Palestinian Authority or
44:38
either he meets goats or he meets people who are flesh and blood and then when
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you look at the National Security advisor in the past there was Michael Flynn he had his religious motivations
44:50
but that’s very different again from Secretary of State Mar ruia who is a very gangho Republican
44:58
strongly against China for the anra the guns and very strongly from the Israeli
45:05
position the ambassador of the UN to the UN will be Elise stefanic uh who has excelled in
45:13
Congressional hearings on anti-Semitism when her strong condemnation of one of the presidents the I believe the
45:19
president of the University of Pennsylvania resigned after that award
45:25
and she was rewarded by the Zionism award by a wealthy Jewish uh
45:32
donor special Envoy through the Middle East will be Steven wikov a very strong
45:37
supporter of Israel another real estate developer from New York City close friend of the president elect who plays
45:43
golf with him here you have another problem again in the past uh it’s the
45:48
diplomats that uh channel the US foreign policy are diplomats that’s the way it
45:54
should be people who actually understand what they’re doing but here we have a real estate developer who has zil’s
46:00
experience of Middle East diplomacy or diplomacy diplomacy in general and who
46:05
State sympathies only on one side not the other at all most importantly there’s a bureaucratic problem whenever
46:12
there’s a has been a middle EAS and Envoy by the president that usually
46:17
Sidelines the state department we saw something like this with thear Kushner
46:22
who was a special adviser to president Trump in the past and who might show up again at some point and uh that has a
46:31
way of Simply marginalizing the state department I believe that not Americans
46:36
shouldn’t be demonized at all either there are a lot of good people who want to build peace want to have a prosperity
46:43
and decent life uh to most countries in the Middle East and I think that many
46:50
have more Nuance understanding especially if they serve as diplomats than the incoming are Republican
46:57
Administration and by the way I totally share your view that I believe Republican party fell Hostage to
47:04
president Trump already before the first term it allowed that to happen it thought that they can control Trump
47:12
ignoring the fact that there might be a status quo where president Trump is controlling the Republicans and I think
47:19
that’s where we are right now the party has changed to beyond recognition uh the
47:24
old uh traditional let’s say multilateral wing of even Kissinger and
47:30
another of Cold War realists is gone so what is left if you look at the
47:36
ideologies of just these people that I mentioned there are certain common
47:42
denominators one is strong sympathy support for Israel longtime supporters
47:48
of the Israel of in the US second there is also this very strong uh ethos of
47:55
Evangelical Zionism over Evangelical Christianity which is very odd for most
48:00
Europeans who tend to be far more secular but it’s Rel strong here and because of these two points they also
48:06
share the view that all you can have in the Middle East or anywhere else is a clash of civilizations there’s the west
48:14
and then there’s the rest and the rest is used as a kind of an umbrella term for everything that’s not us there them
48:22
and us we are good we are fighting for civilization Etc they’re bad they can be
48:29
barbarians Primitives these are distinctions that come from the era of colonialism and my concern is I share
48:36
your view of the potential of what might happen in the Middle East but my concern is that when the
48:42
ideology that filters what we see from the world is like this if they travel in
48:47
the Middle East do they really see how people live and and work do they want to see that will the US ambassador and
48:55
other Envoy will they go to the West Bank and Gaza meet Ordinary People there
49:01
or will they only stay on one side and be selective about that as well because these people that are now coming in
49:07
never made a point of meeting members of peace now movement in Israel but they would meet people of uh the liquid party
49:15
uh they would be trying to avoid meeting the far right members uh but they would
49:21
meet the cabinet members who cooperated with farat as well so I would like to be more istic but uh By Nature I’m I’m I
49:29
like to believe in optimism but I tend to be pessimistic when we look at what
49:38
happens just to wrap up this session that I in my opinion what’s going on
49:46
between Iran and the United States is so important for what for what’s happening
49:52
right now in the West Asia do you think we have the Trump Administration before
49:58
in their interviews Donald Trump and his vice president he talk about the only
50:04
problem they have with Iran is the Iran nuclear program do you think is it going the
50:11
relationship between Iran or maybe some sort of talk between Iran and the United States would help the
50:20
situation in Gaza or it doesn’t matter what’s going on between Iran and the United States the situation would be the
50:27
same and Israel would do whatever it wants to
50:32
do I’m afraid that and I I have no doubt that prime minister Netanyahu believes
50:39
in this that there is a card blanch now being extended to uh
50:47
netan but I also think that that will come with strings attached as well and
50:53
it’s not just because both gentlemen are relatively narcissistic and and very
50:59
eager to have themselves portrayed in a certain way that advances their interest
51:05
there is a part of trump that I don’t want to ignore I would give it probability of 5 to
51:11
10% where uh there is a desire to create some sort of a peace in the Middle East
51:18
there is also perhaps a temptation to see Iran uh through the lens of North Korea
51:27
only in the sense that when there was this great
51:33
hostility between Pang and and Washington not so many years ago Trump used it escalated it to then
51:43
create some sort of understanding between the United States and North
51:49
Korea he wanted to sell himself and portray himself as the ultimate ultimate
51:56
de maker so I think that there are elements of that here as
52:02
well but will he do it when his own son-in-law tells him oh don’t go there
52:08
think of Gaza if it’s leveled it would be great real estate American companies would invest and so on so forth
52:14
something that Jared kusher to the surprise of many said publicly uh in
52:21
early spring this year would he be able to resist the Temptations of of his
52:27
future defense secretary or his secretary of state or the Ambassador
52:32
that he has in in now in Jerusalem uh I think that most likely he
52:38
will do what he can to expand the Abraham Accords um but then he has to deal with
52:46
the issue of China that he would like to sort of isolate into a question about trade and tariffs and so so
52:53
forth my concern is that he will bring back restore and revive the notion of
53:00
maximum pressure which basically deems that um Iran has to be softened so that
53:07
we can negotiate from the position of strength um and I believe that this is
53:13
one of the worst possible things that he could do for a lot of reasons one because this is not Iran
53:20
Iran is very different from the way Iran is being portr by the US it’s far d dehumanized to demonize and so on so
53:28
forth it would do well for a lot of American networks to do bit more specials on Iran that they’ve done in
53:36
Israel and elsewhere at least to complement things a little bit and create more understanding on all
53:42
sides um but would he be able to overcome these obstacles uh I’m not quite sure
53:49
that will happen there will be that effort to weaken soft in Iran the only question is how far would he go doing so
53:57
because the more he does so he will undermine also some preconditions for a
54:03
more lasting peace the present government in Iran is led by a reformist
54:08
president now he is not the key person in in charge of the Iran itself um
54:16
naturally the supreme leader Kam is but he’s age is such that at some point he
54:22
has to retire so he’s building also sort of the foundation for his successor and
54:28
for the future of Iran there are some elements that perhaps should and could
54:33
and should encounter each other in a very positive sense but my fear is that
54:39
this uh effort to at maximum pressure will start they will do it with Iran
54:44
they will also try to do it with China and with in the case of china the idea
54:49
is that China would stop buying any oil from Iran and since Iran is very dependent of those buyers that would
54:56
hurt Iran quite a lot uh obviously China doesn’t want to do that either and if
55:02
you think about the Chinese point of view um I think Americans should very much also heed to um some stateus facts
55:10
one of the most important ones happened maybe six seven years ago when there was a question of the role of Chinese
55:16
investments in Iran which are extensive and particularly increased dur the time of great trouble and great challenges in
55:23
Iran uh China I believe proved to be a kind of a friend that would be there also in that times and during those
55:31
times there was a lot of investment and China made it very clear that any
55:37
violation of Iranian sovereignty attacking these infrastructural Investments would be considered to be an
55:44
attack against China as well that is quite a a statement and of
55:50
course you know the proof of pting is in the eating of it so we’ll see how this
55:55
will play out but all sides are creating these red lines how far we will go and what will
56:01
happen next Iran also has to think couple of things uh the crisis the
56:08
present crisis uh I think the Israeli point of view is that we have shown that Iran is
56:16
vulnerable and they feel that they have shown this in the sense that uh the axis
56:23
of resistance wasn’t as powerful as people thought or that in
56:29
the sense that the missiles and drones were not as devastating as people thought and Iran so far has not seized
56:37
uh or talked about going faster into a nuclear program I’m afraid that this is a
56:45
misinterpretation because the axis of resistance was there when it was needed it showed his powerful force without
56:53
using all of his cards his Bola could have used and can still use hundreds of
56:59
missiles even when it has been weakened uh likely more and Iran certainly a lot
57:05
more even now after it has been weakened by the Israeli attacks that it chose not
57:11
to is something that I think if us Administration was be led by presidents
57:18
of the calber of Rosevelt and others they would understand this it shows restraint when you don’t use the weapons
57:25
the ammo that you have have nethan has had to do it constantly and then there’s
57:31
the other thing that I mentioned if this war has proven something it is a
57:36
double-edged sword in the sense that most Israelis would say Americans would
57:42
say that we stand together with Israel these are Ironclad ties which is what
57:48
Biden is saying to Israel as he’s saying to Taiwan as he is now saying to Philippines as he said to
57:54
Ukraine but look at what happened in Ukraine whichever way the war ends every
58:00
third almost every third Ukrainian is gone many more have being killed entire generation the assets of the state of
58:07
the country have been mortgaged a lot of them to American investors and that may not be a
58:13
coincidence there’s a very bad blueprint here also uh it is true these attacks by
58:21
Iran were contained but Iran warned about them in advance it shows targets that were not really
58:29
the most serious ones it could have done otherwise it chose not to but it wanted to show that we can do this and that we
58:36
choose not to do so please listen to this draw the right conclusion we don’t want to have more we hope that you don’t
58:42
want either um but when you have these so-called Ironclad ties it did no longer
58:49
happen without us bases in Israel and who actually intercepted those missiles it was not just Israel it was the United
58:56
States in cooperation with France UK intelligence was being used uh channeled
59:01
and there were quite a few other countries involved very different from say Six Day War when Israel was relying
59:09
on French arms but not on rench French Arman shipments and stood on its own now
59:15
it’s dependent on others and I think it’s very important to understand the strength and the limitations of this
59:22
kind of sovereignty uh if there was a different government the conclusions might be
59:27
different but with this government I’m concerned that they may think that we
59:32
have to support those American objectives and interests that want to destabilize Iran Americans want to do it
59:40
perhaps because there’s great unap resources in Iran Israel wants to do it with it by its own reasons that have
59:47
less to do with those resources they wouldn’t get them anyways but they think that that would give them permanent
59:52
security it won’t it will just destabilize the area again and we’ve seen in the Middle East time and time
59:58
again what happens with destabilization it never advances the course of peace and I think that most Israelis are are
1:00:04
fit up with war but they don’t find parliamentary venues to express them that’s why they are in the
1:00:11
streets yeah thank you so much Dan for being with us today great pleasure as always
1:00:19
thank you
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“… I think the important lesson for socialists here is that we need to have a different conception of how these social services and how the state should be organized. What should the relationship be between the state bureaucrats or the state employees, public sector workers, and the communities that they serve?
Should it be one in which they’re regulating and policing the recipients of the benefits that they’re giving out? Or should it be one in which these individuals are much more embedded organically with the communities that they’re working with and democratically accountable to them and the communities that are receiving these programs and various forms of social assistance actually play a direct role in themselves?
Deciding how they’re implemented and running them. And it’s a completely different model that we have to think through. I think of how these kinds of social welfare programs could be organized and set up, which would make them much harder to attack that very alienating top-down bureaucratic nature of the Keynesian welfare state really was part of the basis for the Thatcherite attack that people ended up very enthusiastically supporting in the 1980s and 1990s, even in the form of Tony Blair as head of the Labor Party.
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Pepe Escobar | Russia’s Lethal Message: Will the West Finally Listen? https://youtube.com/live/wE746Nze_H4?si=MN886GDGl6Jljwry
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Transkripzioa:
0:04
hi everybody today is Wednesday November 27th and Pepi Escobar is here with us
0:10
welcome back pep Nema you’re the best such a pleasure to be with you my
0:15
pleasure let’s get started Pepe with what’s going on in Ukraine and Russia’s
0:21
message with this new Hypersonic missile to the west to the Biden Administration in your opinion
0:30
what was the message to the west and is it going to change the mindset in the
0:40
west I love your question because this is exactly what I was writing this
0:45
morning my column which is I don’t know if it’s going to be out today or
0:51
tomorrow and I was so I was for a few days I was trying to come up with a
0:57
short concise definition of oresnik so the best I could do which is not
1:05
short enough but I think it gives you and our audience the scope of what just
1:13
happened which is of course we use the term game Cher all the time but this
1:20
time we have to this is a real game Cher in terms of military history and in
1:27
terms of warfare in the 21st century so this is a system with the destructive
1:36
power of let’s say a midrange nuclear
1:41
weapon but with the Precision of a very good snipers
1:49
bullet this is as concise as because this is a complex engineering physics the whole
1:57
system it’s it’s something unheard of literally and obviously because it’s so
2:05
sophisticated and because it came out of the blue uh pesov a few days ago he said
2:13
that even Putin didn’t know until the last minute that there was going to be a
2:19
test of oresnik and pesov also said that a extremely rarified
2:26
Circle let’s say between Moscow and some no of the industrial military complex in
2:32
Russia knew about the system and the system was about to be tested so that
2:38
gives all of you our audience uh how extremely sophisticated this operation
2:45
is including no leaks can you imagine if this was in the
2:50
US there will be leaks all over the place you know on the networks front page of Washington Post you name it no
2:57
leaks whatsoever very few people knew about it and
3:02
obviously uh we can say that uh the industrial military complex the security
3:10
Council Russia and President Putin were reserving this for the right
3:16
moment and there are few more right moments than what we have experienced
3:23
this past few days after that dementia Incorporated passing as the of the
3:30
United States authorized attack Ms uh uh
3:35
missiles inside targets of the Russian Federation in fact the old ones are
3:42
already with Kev and probably new ones that we don’t know where they’re coming from because even in us they they they
3:49
don’t have many left so this was a mega red line if we can put it this way so in
3:56
the beginning so so we had the Russian response in two stages right the first one was President Putin saying now now
4:03
we’re going to have to tweak our uh Doctrine our nuclear Doctrine and
4:09
our response Doctrine and that involves an attack by uh a nation belonging to a
4:18
coalition or even not formally belonging to a coalition which is the case of
4:24
Ukraine which for all practical purposes is part of NATO because NATO has taken over Ukraine
4:31
uh the response will be directed against the Coalition itself so this was number one and number two of course was the
4:39
oresnik demonstration second part of your uh of
4:45
your question the answer for the second part of your question we cannot possibly
4:51
imagine that this bunch of extremely mediocre political Elites
4:59
uh in NATO St atlanticist would first of all they
5:04
would understand what hit them they have no idea what hit them and they have no
5:11
idea about the repercussions of what hit them and that explains why obviously
5:17
they did not get the oresnik message and that Nema brings us to what
5:24
happened these past few days which is a gigantic list of
5:29
stupidity Incorporated in fact threats um ah we’re going to send uh
5:38
troops to Ukraine coming that macron and that ghastly starmer from the UK discuss
5:45
it earlier this week that ridiculous Dutch uh Admiral an
5:51
armchair ADM Myro who chairs the NATO military Council saying that I going to
5:58
launch attacks against you believe something like this you
6:05
know uh well there are of course a comic relief provided once again by the
6:13
Germans where you have the liver sausage government uh planning to turn Metro
6:20
stations into air shelter okay and and this is only what
6:27
happened this past two or three days you know so it’s it’s absolutely crazy so obviously they did not get the message
6:35
and very important after oresnik there were two attack Ms uh attacks against uh
6:43
K one end of last week and the other one in beginning of this week and there will
6:48
be more and the Russian response has not come yet uh the latest that I read this
6:54
morning is that they are mulling what they’re going to do as a response so if
6:59
could be another oresnik visit or it could be something more
7:04
convention but as far as oresnik is concerned it’s it’s really
7:10
mindboggling because you have something that is basically a
7:16
kinetic Force system you don’t need nuclear weapons for that you don’t need
7:23
uh nuclear warheads for that you just need the missile with six Warhead the
7:28
multiplied by other six total 36 uh kinetic Force basic physics
7:36
explains how it works you don’t need a nuclear weapons for that and if you do
7:43
the the basic physics equation involving mass and velocity the high velocity
7:50
combined with the mass impact is something absolutely unbelievable because they are traveling at Ma 10 or M
7:57
11 which is almost 12,000 kilom an Hour 3 kilom per second so so so the mere
8:05
mention of 3 kilomet per sec per second can you imagine this penetrating the
8:11
minds of those armchair NATO generals obviously not not to mention
8:17
batshit crazy Estonian chick that is the new foreign policy leader of the EU not
8:24
to mention the toxy Medusa online obviously they have no clue what this is and what that means so the Russian
8:32
message now is very very clear and Dimitri Medved once again in his
8:38
inimitable style said is is this what you want so this is how what you’re getting a new ballistic system deal with
8:45
it are they going to deal with it not they won’t because they will keep
8:51
increasing and the escalation will continue but now Nema there’s an enormous difference who controls the
8:58
escalation it’s not NATO anymore it’s Russia because Russia has something that
9:04
nobody in the world has including NATO and they can decide to use
9:11
it at their will uh putting himself said no this is not the only one we have a
9:18
stockpile already and mass production serial mass production is starting as we
9:23
speak now so there are other oresnik and in the next few months there will be many more ornick will this change the
9:32
dementia mindset of the collective West unfortunately
9:38
no yeah if I were Russian I wouldn’t use it again in Ukraine because they are out to
9:47
to gather information about these new Hypersonic missile they want more
9:52
attack they want to gather information they want to know how does it work and right now their intelligence is
10:00
prepared to gather information I think Russia it would be it would it wouldn’t
10:06
be that smart using this missile again but Nema uh the difference is Russia is
10:13
so much more advanced than the collective West especially the the H
10:19
Europe they don’t have anything at best they have storm shadows and sculpt missiles that’s it but
10:26
compared to the West they are at least one or two or maybe more than two generations ahead on
10:32
hypersonics so they can collect any information they want because they will never catch up with what Russia has been
10:39
doing because this research started as early as in the Soviet era it didn’t
10:45
start last decade it’s more than 30 years that they have been researching
10:50
hypersonics and we’re watching the results now day nowadays and another
10:57
quite interesting point in fact is that the Americans always say that they know what the Russians are doing but every
11:04
time that there is a breakthrough Sarat Kinga avangard ziron
11:11
they didn’t know anything about it just like they didn’t know anything about oresnik because even people in Russia
11:18
didn’t know that oresnik existed so they they play catchup all the
11:25
time yeah don’t you think that PA part of this ignorance on the part of the
11:32
western Contin especially I’m talking about the United States is because of this rhetoric that they’ve been this
11:39
propaganda to sort of information that they’re spreading through the mainstream
11:45
media because the way that they’re repeating it again and again and again they would believe that those things
11:52
that they have they’re the origin of those propaganda but they’re believing in their propaganda at the end of the
12:00
day this is this is the dangerous part of this attitude because at the end of
12:05
the day it doesn’t matter how solid Russia is sending a message to the West
12:11
they’re so delusional about what’s going on in Ukraine absolutely Nema they are
12:16
delusional about the changes that we are all watching in front of us in terms of
12:22
trying to build a different system of international relations and a different system of of trade and commerce globally
12:29
they have no idea uh if you mention the word bricks uh until recently in
12:36
Washington half didn’t even know what that meant and the other half said it’s
12:41
just a talk shop those piece of countries in in the South ET This Is How
12:46
They react to any scene that escapes their bubble uh in Washington Maryland
12:53
Virginia a few pockets in uh New Jersey and New York and that’s it that’s it uh
12:59
it’s the arrogance of power the best um definition of arrogance of power you are
13:06
insulated from reality you create your bubble you believe what’s only what’s inside the
13:14
bubble the people who you talk to are only part of the bubble which our our
13:20
great friend Ray McGovern um described as the mimat the industrial military
13:26
Congressional intelligence Academia media think then complex they only talk among themselves and no outside they
13:34
don’t listen to Outsiders they don’t respect Outsiders they dismiss Outsiders
13:39
uh can you imagine if they come from the global majority or the global South they are by definition INF
13:46
fuers Russia still is treated as a bunch of Slavic barbarians and this is not
13:52
going to change this is bipartisan and this is this is what they uh teach you
14:00
when you follow political science courses in y or Colombia for that matter
14:07
at the height of the IV league in the US this is what they teach you this is how they indoctrinate
14:14
students so it’s not going to change and it’s crazy because anything that happens
14:21
Russia could tomorrow they could throw a bloody nuclear bomb somewhere and they
14:27
were saying it’s a small bomb it’s ridiculous they only have one or and they still won’t
14:33
get the message so I think the the most uh
14:39
graphic message that Russia could send at the moment apart from uh deploying
14:46
nuclear weapons because they don’t need them is to deploy a missile system that
14:53
is as powerful as a nuclear weapon and still the they don’t get the message you
15:01
know there are calculations all over the internet on how long will it take for oresnik to hit the major capitals here
15:09
in NATO Stan NATO headquarters in Brussels um us bases in katar or in the
15:17
Emirates for instance Guam Pearl Harbor Etc and and people they have already
15:24
done the mess and it it varies from five six seven and 19 minutes to 2223 that’s
15:33
it and the Russians were very clever they didn’t say this is an intercontinental ballistic system it can
15:40
be it is an uh intermediate range ballistic
15:47
system which you know according to the INF would be let’s say forbidden according to the
15:54
old INF but don’t forget that Trump pull out of the INF in 2019 so Russia is
15:59
entitled to use this there are no legal impediments against using oresnik
16:04
if you launch oresnik from the Far
16:10
East Southern Siberia or the Far East in Russia it can reach almost any point
16:17
inside the continental United States and for instance there are some calculations
16:22
that if you if you launch them from Kamchatka for instance which is in the the extreme Far East you know north of
16:29
the sakal islands you can reach kuam in less than 20 minutes for
16:36
instance anyway so so the US is not immune anymore even if we’re talking it’s it’s
16:44
a non nuclear uh environment even if we’re talking about a relatively conventional system but you
16:53
a super uh sophisticated uh kinetic
16:59
weapon using kinetic Force essentially they they won’t get the mess and
17:06
especially now Nema because don’t forget we are less than two months away from the end of this
17:13
ghastly probably the most destructive the most stupid Administration in the history of the United States and
17:20
obviously they are desperate project Ukraine is collapsing in front of the world’s eyes it’s their
17:28
Pro project they invested everything during the crash test dummy Administration on
17:36
inflicting a strategic defeat on Russia and now what’s happening they’re
17:42
inflicting a strategic defeat on themselves and obvious they cannot admit that it’s admit your own strategic
17:51
stupidity on a cmic scale they simply cannot admit that so they will keep
17:56
escalating and that’s what makes it so dangerous because we are weeks away and
18:02
the next few weeks the rest of this month the whole month of December and
18:07
three weeks in January we are still at the mercy of these Fanatics and they will keep escalating
18:14
there’s no question all this stupidity that we heard this week from NATO generals
18:19
armchair Admirals polit European politician uh even some members of the
18:27
future uh Trump cabinet you know that it’s a very very sad State of
18:33
Affairs because it once again it’s impossible to establish a rational
18:40
dialogue with Fanatics and this current Administration
18:45
is a bunch of Fanatics nothing prevents the next Administration to be a
18:50
different bunch of Fanatics as you mentioned there was a
18:57
meeting between Mike walz the next national security advisor and the
19:03
current one Jake solivan oh my God have you heard in he said that he’s totally in
19:10
line with what Jake solivan explained to him this is dangerous I don’t know how
19:17
does it how is it going to be perceived in Russia and how what’s their take on
19:22
this on one hand we’re hearing that Donald Trump want wants to an wants to put an end to the conflict in Ukraine on
19:29
the other hand you see these people are totally against Russia and you National
19:34
Security advisor the director of counterterrorism in the United States he’s just calling name calling Putin and
19:42
nobody knows even with the current administration at least these people are
19:47
just pretending that they’re poite at least you’re right new one it seems
19:53
that how is it going to be perceived in your opinion Russia and how do they feel
20:01
about it right now it’s already being perceived as a a replacement of a bunch
20:07
of lunatics Fanatics by another bunch of lunatics Fanatics and there are no Illusions Nea whatsoever uh uh it took
20:15
me two or three days to get some Echoes from Moscow before I wrote my column
20:20
this morning and in the column I I quote one of the best Russian analysts in fact
20:27
uh sh sent shov is from mimo he’s the
20:32
dean of mimo School of international relations probably probably the best one in the world or one of one of the top
20:38
three in the world and and he’s a program director of the valai club as well he’s I I met him
20:45
in Moscow and she s is really really serious and he gave an interview to Tas
20:51
I think late last week when basically he said this is a a consensus among the the
20:58
top Uh Russian analysts whatever happens next Trump will be defending what he
21:05
calls American interests so it’s not that he would try to uh win down the war in Ukraine
21:12
because he has any sympathy for Russia no on a cost benefit basis he knows that
21:18
this is a dead end and throwing money away and nothing is going to happen so
21:24
he wants to focus on what really matters for for Trump
21:30
2.0 number one overall China there are so-called China policy
21:37
which is going to be get ready if you saw that the first one was bad wait for
21:42
what’s coming uh next year and Iran of course because uh there’s still the
21:50
threat this is a real threat of BB convincing Trump and the circle around
21:57
him by the way all of them zionists very important of fighting the
22:04
Israeli war against Iran the Americans fighting Israel’s
22:10
war and number three the different forms of attack that the Trump Administration
22:17
is going to unleash against selected Global South Players bricks members and
22:26
Bricks partners and and let’s say the weakest nod of bricks related Nations so in
22:36
Latin America for instance we can foresee A Renewed drive against Kuba
22:44
Marco Rubio where does he come from new secretary of state and Venezuela these
22:50
are the top two candidates the other candidate is Bolivia because of the lithium don’t forget that Elon Musk wet
22:57
dream is to have all the lithium in Bolivia and of course when you we talk
23:04
about the major players the major bricks player in South America
23:09
Brazil where the Trump Administration is going to put even more pressure on Brazil
23:14
than when Jake Sullivan disembarked in Brazilia and he showed the list to Lula
23:20
this is what you’re going to do from now on with the Trump Administration is going to be even more hardcore than that
23:26
and of course the big big stories which is Russia
23:32
China what will the Trump Administration try to do even though it’s it’s
23:38
completely absurd they will try to break apart the Russia China
23:44
strategic partnership this is part of their policy obviously they’re not saying it out loud but it’s obvious from
23:50
everything they have been saying in all the information that is circulating in Washington Etc they think that Trump
23:58
could seduce between commas Putin to know with some sort of a sweetheart
24:04
deals or whatever to distance himself from China so the Trump Administration
24:10
can unleash all sorts of hybrid War techniques against China starting next
24:16
year so this is the big big big big game in terms of foreign policy for the Trump
24:22
Administration but as you can see uh it’s um all over the Spectrum
24:29
it’s in Eurasia Russia Eurasia Russia China Iran so major
24:35
bricks Latin America and we’re not even talking about Africa for for the moment
24:40
they they didn’t even mention Africa so I assume there will be no Trump Administration policy Vis A
24:48
Africa but it’s very it’s it’s quite worrying what could happen in a selected
24:55
points of Latin America starting next year in you you mentioned the policies in
25:03
Brazil do you think I do feel that we are most we are more vulnerable again
25:10
when Democrats are in power in Washington I think they have some sort
25:15
much more leverage on us when they’re in power comparing to Republicans you’re
25:23
right is that and is it going to change
25:28
the policy of Brazil toward Venezuela which is so important in my opinion
25:34
wonderful question uh Nea we don’t know because this will depend to a large
25:41
extent of how Lula is going to handle Trump this will be fascinating to watch
25:49
in fact so it will depend on Lula’s margin of maneuver and his uh you know
25:57
let’s say ronal style dribbling in front of the goal
26:02
posts how he’s going to dribble uh Trump out of a lethal
26:10
equation we don’t know the problem is according to my best independent
26:16
Brazilian sources diplomats friends Etc the anti bricks Lobby
26:24
inside the high echelons of the Brazilian government is very very strong
26:30
and this is not going to change because of trump and the opposition to Venezuela
26:36
which you know Venezuela is not a formal bricks partner because of the Brazilian veto and this went down very very
26:46
badly in Russia and in China because Russia and China have very good relations with
26:52
Venezuela so I wonder if another form of maximum pressure from
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the Trump Circle in Brazil would make Brazil reconsider the position of Venezuela this will be something
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extremely interesting to watch but for the moment we are in speculation territory now we don’t know I prefer to
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wait and see and how Brazil is going to reorganize
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itself uh during Trump 2.0 as a real leader of Latin America as a whole which
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for the moment they are not this will imply a real measure of
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sovereignty in Brazil I wonder are they going to find that
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inside themselves or in a government that is not exactly brilliant and I’m
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bring very diplomatic here and with strong right-wing opposition in Brazilia
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everywhere it’s going to be really tough and another interest very very
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interesting Point Brazil presidency of bricks next
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year how they’re going to negotiate that visavi the you know Big Brother up north
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you know so this is going to be so they will need help from Russia and China I’m
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sure they will get it they especially from China this past
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uh these past two Summits in um C ping as king of Peru which was outstanding
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and then Shin ping as the king of Rio and then Shin ping as the king of Brazilia well he’s he’s the big guy and
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he Brazil Lula and Brazil need a lot of China support to counteract pressure by
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the Trump Administration so so the new the new um Power plays starting January
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20 will be absolutely extraordinary to watch because there’s a lot of destabilizing factors everywhere from
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Latin America to West Asia to the larger Eurasia space
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then do you see Trump’s ability that powerful to
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make some sort of division between Iran China and Russia so far because there
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are a lot of talks in the United States they’re talking about that Trump can bring Russia closer to the United States
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but from what we’ve seen so far it doesn’t seem that would be the case with
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the current Administration you’re absolutely right Nema and uh comes back to what uh the
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best Russian analysts are discussing you know for the past few days and week or so nothing’s going to change essentially
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and there are no Illusions in Moscow they are on a wait and see um
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frame of mind at the moment they we’re going to see action by the Trump Administration starting January 20 and
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then they will proceed from there you know and they are not in a rush for instance the the so-called famous Trump
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can solve the war in Ukraine with a phone call in 24 hours everybody knows this is
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the conditions for a Russian for Russia to sit on the table and start
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talking towards a potential deal everybody knows the including Trump maybe not some of his
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advisers and uh the mediocrities there will be in his cabinet but I’m sure he knows about them because he must have
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read them and at least somebody well opposition showed it to him non-nuclear
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Ukraine neutral Ukraine demilitarized Ukraine no Ukraine in
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NATO uh the P of donbas and Nova Rosia
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belongs to Russia and of all sanctions against Russia this is the bare minimum
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anything that is less than that the Russians are going to say no you read our list this is our list everybody
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knows about it if you go to the Sahara and ask people in the desert no that’s it then you can sit down and start
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talking so this enormous nonsense being disseminated by American mainstream
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media that you just referred to too ah there’s going to be a ceas fire
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they’re going to be American and English Pac makers in a new line of control this
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is not forget it this is not going to happen and and the Russians have no incentive to first of all to accept and
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first of all to sign something like this especially with a superpower that in the
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definition of the best Diplomat on the planet Sergey lavro is a non agreement
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capable superpower so you know that’s why the
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Russians are not in a hurry and of course if nothing happens they say okay so we continue what doing what we’re
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doing now which is the results the you know the facts on the ground in the
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enormous Battlefield in the front line thousand kilometers and we’ll do it our own way
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slowly surely crawling you know uh you know uh
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those absolutely outstanding artillery barrages against
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decimating Battalion of a battalion of ukrainians and that’s it until you
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decide to talk seriously and you cannot say that we are making up anything because our
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conditions are very clear from the beginning and even before the Smo our
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conditions were also very clear because then we come back to the famous uh non discussion before
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the Smo December 2021 when Putin proposed to this current
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Administration in Washington especially because NATO is it’s the detail okay let’s talk about indivisibility of
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security for everybody post Soviet space Eastern Europe Western Europe
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atlanticists whole of your Ria you name it and obviously there was no response
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so we always come back to what was not the the O The Diplomatic opening that
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was there in front of everybody uh nearly three literally three years ago and obviously we could
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see three years ago already that the Americans didn’t want any dialogue they
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wanted that pipe dream of uh strategic
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defeat of Russia look what’s happening
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now they s that they could uh uh inflict a strategic defeat on a nuclear
34:05
Hypersonic power so you have to be really deranged to think something like that you know but that’s it the the def
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the perfect definition for this Bunch still in the White House State Department CIA it’s a bunch of deranged
34:23
people yeah we know the breaking news right now is the temporary ceasefire
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between Hezbollah and Israel between Lebanon and Israel and not not yeah it’s not
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Hezbollah Nea it’s between Le something called Lebanon which nobody knows what
34:42
it is in Israel I think just having this idea of
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ceasefire and Neto accepting a ceire it has a lot of
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meaning because if you remember when they went to the southern part of Lebanon after those assassinations after
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those bombing that they said more than 80% of their weapons aminations missiles were
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destroyed I think they they they they’ve reached to a point that they couldn’t
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carry out any more operation they couldn’t reach any more territory or
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they couldn’t capture a village in the southern part of Lebanon this is the reason because we know Neto we know how
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he how his manner is and how does it work on his part he doesn’t he doesn’t
35:37
give he’s he’s not going to give up on what his what are his goals to be
35:42
achieved as he he has mentioned when this conflict started right now when he
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decides to go after a ceasefire even temporary ceasefire it seems that they
35:53
have learned that they’re not capable of defeating Hezbollah why they’re retreating from the southern
35:59
part of Lebanon and my fear right now is they’re going
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to send their troops to Gaza this is the main problem in my opinion right now are
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they do do you see these governments these Powers these groups I don’t know
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whatever you call it are talking about these thing to deescalate the situation
36:24
in Gaza or not they are analyzing the possible repercussions of this as you
36:30
said very well temporary s fire which Israel will break virtually on a daily
36:35
basis everybody knows that even before it starts Netanyahu gave away the game Nema
36:43
uh I don’t think if it if it if it was yesterday night or this morning he said
36:49
his own words now we can concentrate on Iran what does that mean that he will
36:56
force the Trump Administration to fight Israel’s war against Iran so this is the
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number one priority for him Hezbollah is a second prior G Gaza is even a third
37:11
priority Gaza in terms of the let’s call them the Old Testament
37:17
psychopathological genocidal okay this is a very long definition but I think it incompasses
37:23
everything uh instead of saying just a bunch of Fanatics no it’s much worse than that
37:29
smotri or B Giver uh one one of these two said in the last 24 hours if I’m not
37:36
mistaken they want to have the population of Gaza this means uh starvation
37:44
extermination exposion You Name It Whatever means necessary or even kill
37:50
killing many more than they already killed so this for them is not a
37:55
priority anymore and in their minds it’s going to be North Gaza will be recolonized by U Jewish settlements and
38:05
obviously they know they can get away with it because the G7 NATO St won’t say anything about it as horrible as it may
38:12
seem but that’s what it is facts on the ground and facts on the geopolitical
38:19
ground hisbah I think they learn a little bit of a lesson that they will
38:25
always refuse to admit that they are incapable as you said conquering even one Village in
38:33
southern lean all of us who have been to Southern Lebanon and talked to Hezbollah and talk
38:41
to villagers who live in southern Lebanon we knew that for years or many
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of us decades forget it try to come back here and you’re gonna see what happens
38:51
to you this is exactly what just happened to them so what do they do in Revenge which proves
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how it’s unqualified any adjectives Escape me at a moment the pettiness of
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it all and the resentment and how infrahuman they are
39:13
behavior is they are bombing civilian buildings in different neighborhoods of
39:19
Beirut on a daily basis and nobody says anything about it this is how absolutely
39:26
disgusting these people are it’s their Revenge ah we cannot occupy 50
39:31
kilometers North all the way to the Lani River let Boom the out of these
39:36
people this is what they’re doing once again not a peep from un organizations
39:44
NOS humanitarian bodies uh European commission you name it nothing so they
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they can still get away with it and the most worrying part of that is
39:58
that Netanyahu feels confident enough to even say it on the record that now the
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target is Iran so we can expect the worst of this BB
40:13
Trump Alliance starting next year and how they’re going to deal with Iran this
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this is very very worrying um I tend to think that this is
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the ultimate Forever War not Ukraine Ukraine is a done deal we know we know
40:31
that protect Ukraine is dead it’s a matter of time but the war
40:37
between greater Israel in their own words and the axis of resistance as a
40:43
whole this is the real deal and things are going to move uh I
40:51
expect not but probably in a really really horrible way next year
40:58
depending on how Netanyahu work with Trump’s brains instincts
41:05
Zionist allegiances Zionist donors Zionist advisors Etc but basically Trump
41:13
Administration is be an extension of T Aviv essentially and that’s what’s so
41:19
worrying right if you remember recently we had Iranian officials talking about that
41:25
they have a weapon much more powerful than nuclear bomb can I ask you Nema do
41:32
you have a what’s your what’s your gut feeling about this more powerful weapon I would
41:39
think that would be something like oresnik something ktic type of missile
41:45
that would be the case nothing else comes to my mind uh I I agree with you it could be
41:53
an norish Nick varant exactly especially because they are talking all the time
41:58
now the higher military uh bodies of Iran and Russia connect
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they are in direct communication yes yes yes yeah and on the other hand Pepe we
42:14
know that in with what we’ve seen in the Red Sea and the capabilities of the United States together with the United
42:20
Kingdom and with France all of them together they were not able to fight houthis and in the Red Sea and it is
42:29
pure lunacy if they would if they would think that they can fight a war with
42:35
Iran we know that with the recent attack Israeli attack on Iran they couldn’t
42:41
just invade the Iranian airspace they couldn’t go into the Iranian airspace
42:47
and bomb Iranian facilities I don’t know military bases or and right now if they
42:53
think that they can do this and without invading Iran they’re not capable of
42:58
overthrowing the government in of course not pure lunacy on their part you’re
43:04
absolutely right dimma it and this happens when you live in a bubble coming back to the beginning of our
43:10
conversation well uh those lunatics in Tel Aviv they live in a extremely
43:16
rarified bubble because it is an apocalyptic bubble which is even worse
43:24
than any other geopolitical uh bubble and the
43:29
zons in was in the Washington New York Access is the same thing it’s it’s a a
43:38
counterpart and it in intimately linked to those people
43:44
in Tel Aviv and the worst part is that they are inside these silos of power um
43:53
in the Deep State weapons contractors state department National Security Council all
44:00
the the those Festival of acronym the agency 16 17 maybe there are even
44:07
more that that’s that’s the problem and these people will be in fact many of
44:13
them are already working against Trump on Ukraine but they will be working for
44:19
Trump if there is a decision to okay let’s attack Iran what are you going to do you’re going to bomb Iran back to the
44:27
Stone Age no you cannot do that because the response is going to be to bomb American interests back to the Stone Age
44:34
and Iran can do that in a Flash and an attack on Iran don’t forget
44:39
an attack on Iran will be an attack against the top bricks an attack on Iran will be an attack against Russia and
44:45
China and all that is interl because not by accident the three top existential
44:51
threats to the US are Russia China and Iran they happen to be three three top
44:57
bricks the other one will be India and they happen to be interl with strategic
45:04
Partnerships the most important one strategically is going to be signed in
45:09
the next few days I assume next month’s December in Moscow by pesin and Putin in
45:18
person face to face and that will that that is a game changer because obviously
45:25
this collaboration that is already going on in energy industry Investments
45:30
military Etc will include certainly an attack on Iran Russia will do something that
45:38
Washington will is not gonna like it’s part of the game do you see anybody in
45:45
DC or in the DC things tanks discussing even this possibility no you
45:53
don’t I happen to be the m istic
45:58
receiver of lots of reports by American think tanks of the time that I spent in
46:03
Washington so I still have a list of people who send me and obviously every day I’m getting reports and
46:11
discussion nobody says anything about the lunacy as you just
46:16
described of trying to pick a fight with Iran and knowing that you were going to be picking a fight with Russia and China
46:23
at the same time nobody discusses that in in fact they don’t even understand
46:28
Nema the meaning of a strategic partnership like Russia China for they
46:35
still haven’t processed that yet can you imagine them processing the brand new
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one uh Russia uh Iran they won’t it it’s terrible it’s it’s it’s
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not even a in fact I’ve never seen a more impermeable bubble in in the
46:54
history of of of modern politics compared to this
47:00
one if we if we assume that the main reason for the war with Iran would be
47:07
saving Israel from Iran and from threat coming from Iran that wouldn’t save
47:13
Israel Iran would destroy Israel as once the war
47:18
start Iran would destroy Israel Israel is nothing for the
47:24
military power that Iran has I don’t know if that would be the case in the mind of nnel and his administration but
47:32
it’s the fact problem is they have the Sens some options um Nema they have
47:38
nuclear weapons and these people are crazy enough to use them I think this is the
47:44
differential uh on on a purely military level and a capacity of response Iran
47:50
can reduce Israel to a parking lot if they want the problem is Those Old
47:58
Testament Cycles they will use their nuclear weapons certainly certainly in fact they
48:06
will even like it now because ah let’s bring let’s bring the Apocalypse Now for
48:11
everybody not only us yeah just to wrap up this session pep
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one of the main concerns right now for Russia for Iran and even I would argue
48:25
for China is the new sanctions coming from the Trump Administration tariffs I don’t
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know whatever they call it tariff sanctions whatever but how is it going
48:38
to change the policy of braks to facilitate to accelerate the system the
48:45
internal system of bricks in order to just neutralize these sanctions they
48:51
have to accelerate all this testing that is already taking place
48:57
alternative payment settlements the bricks pay card the bricks Bridge
49:03
mechanism so they won’t have to be looking at uh medium-term or long term
49:10
they have to say look we need to start we need to make this word starting now in
49:15
2025 now you know the interconnection of um Payment Systems in Russia China and
49:21
Iran for instance this is something that should start this year already so if you are a company or or a tourist for that
49:28
matter one of these three uh major Bri bricks countries is like you are in the
49:34
same space you need forms of payment payment settlements that apply in the
49:40
three of them and then expand it to the other bricks so it will AC certainly
49:47
accelerate solutions that are being tested you know the bricks Business Council throughout this year in Russia
49:54
they were saying wow we have a lot of models but we have to test all these models it’s very complicated we have to bring companies into it so it starts
50:03
now and the extra problem this Brazilian
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presidency next year it’s not exactly the ideal bricks partner to be presiding
50:14
over such a sensitive juncture you know it’s like you know I’ve been saying this
50:22
quite a lot that the Russians this year they they work for two years for bricks for this here and the next one knowing
50:27
that the Brazilians are not going to do much but it still is not enough you know but there there’s nothing uh for
50:35
instance big Chinese companies Iranian companies State companies Russian
50:42
companies they need to start uh working themselves and uh
50:48
practicing themselves this new uh payment settlements and this hasn’t
50:53
started on a large scale yet so this is something I plan to learn
50:59
more when when I’m back in Russia in January one of my first questions to all these players said look all the testing
51:06
fantastic but do you have anything practical that could start in the first semester of
51:12
2025 especially among the three of of you Russia China and Iran and the
51:19
Chinese now they’re starting to get the picture that the war the geoeconomic war is against them
51:27
and with the Trump Administration they are the number one target so you know
51:33
their interest in bypassing the Dollar by testing all these mechanisms now
51:38
increases exponentially so so so these are all
51:44
the uh let’s say the the many doubts that we all have that this thing can not
51:51
proceed at the current speed it has to get into High-Speed Rail territory you
51:57
know and we hope that this starts in the next few months
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already I if I’m not mistaken the Iranian banking system is called shatab which is like P here that we have pics
52:10
here in Brazil you know pic yes I when I was in Brazil I was asking but what is
52:15
SPS I had no idea what it is I to learn is
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yeah it’s shab is something like like picks here in Brazil you send it at the
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moment they’re going to receive it without any tarff any perfect can you imagine this apply to starting they it
52:37
the Russian system is connected to Iranian system right now it is the spfs
52:43
Russ is already connected and now you can use M you’re gonna you you’ll be able to use mirror cards in Iran yeah
52:50
huge can you imagine expanding this to the other bricks Partners uh throughout
52:56
2025 it’s possible needs to be it’s possible it’s possible the Chinese of
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course they’re going to look at it and said oh we’re going to be slapped with zillions of American uh secondary
53:09
sanctions there’s going to be a price to pay because there will be sanctions against you one way or
53:15
another whatever you do or whatever you won’t do the Trump Administration is going to slap all sorts of sanctions
53:21
against China again exactly how they did it in 2017 2018 espcially
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