Announcing a US-Russia Citizen’s Summit
Announcing a US-Russia Citizen’s Summit
Jun 06, 2025
We live in dangerous times. Now is the time for the people of the United States and Russia to set the example of how civil discourse and dialogue can pave the way for peace between our two nations.
On June 18, 2025, Americans and Russians from all walks of life will come together to engage in an act of “people’s diplomacy.” Whether seated in a theater in beautiful Saint Petersburg, or in the historic Mohican Hotel in downtown Kingston, New York, the participants will be doing what we collectively can only hope our respective leadership will do—engage their citizen counterparts in constructive dialogue which seeks to better relations between their two nations.
The 2025 Space Bridge/Citizen’s Summit takes place on the 40th anniversary of the historic, groundbreaking 1985 “Leningrad-Seattle” Citizen’s Summit organized by two legendary journalists, Phil Donahue of the United States and Vladimir Pozner of the Soviet Union. The 1985 Space Bridge became the gold standard for citizen-to-citizen diplomacy, setting in motion numerous follow-on Citizen’s Summits that helped both nations navigate the troubled waters of the Cold War toward a path that led toward peaceful coexistence.
Scott will discuss this article and answer audience questions on Ep. 269 of Ask the Inspector.
Like its 1985 predecessor, the 2025 Citizen’s Summit seeks to strengthen the dialogue between the civil society of our two countries and promote the idea of “people’s diplomacy” – open dialogue, exchange of experience and establishment of cultural ties.
The Space Bridge aims to serve as a bridge between cultures, generations, and nations. The program will combine live discussions, cultural exchanges, historical reflection, and a forward-looking perspective. The main goal is to demonstrate that, despite differences, people can find common ground and understand each other.
Phil Donahue moderates the Seattle end of the 1985 Citizen’s Summit
The goals of the 2025 US-Russia Citizen’s Summit for Peace are as follows:
• Strengthen mutual understanding between Russian and American citizens.
• Demonstrate that, despite disagreements, people can find common language.
• Create a positive news story amid tense international relations.
By creating a space for an open dialogue where participants can discuss any topical and pressing issues, including those related to social, economic and cultural interaction, we can deepen understanding between Americans and Russians.
The Citizen’s Summit provides participants with the opportunity to share successful practices in democracy, civic participation and the protection of human rights, while assisting in the dissemination of cultural and educational initiatives that contribute to the strengthening of friendship between peoples.
Vladimir Posner moderates the Leningrad end of the 1985 Citizen’s Summit
The summit will also assist in the dissemination of cultural and educational initiatives that contribute to the strengthening of friendship between peoples, and in the process, help identify possible follow-on joint initiatives and projects involving the participants that can have a positive impact on the lives of citizens of both countries. The Citizen’s Summit will be more than just a dialogue between Americans and Russians—it will be a shared experience, one that hopefully expands beyond the respective forums in Saint Petersburg and Kingston, and resonates to every corner of both the United States and Russia, empowering all who witness it to join in on this joint venture to prove to ourselves and our leaders that, if given the chance, our two peoples can choose peace over war, prosperity over sanctions, and cooperation over confrontation.
The Hosts of the 2025 Spacebridge/Russia-USA Citizens Summit
Pavel Balobanov (Saint Petersburg)
My civic mission is to show the world the real Russia—not the version portrayed by Western media, but a nation defined by innovation and hospitality.
I am proud to be a Russian citizen, to drive innovation within our country by developing and bringing to market Russian products and services sought after both domestically and internationally, and of course, to lead this project.
I hope for a sincere dialogue between Russian and American citizens—essential for true progress—that unfolds not through the lens of media, but face to face. Like my fellow Russians, I have many questions for U.S. citizens, and I’m deeply curious to hear their responses.
Scott Ritter (Kingston)
In 1985, when the first Space Bridge took place, I was serving in the US Marines, preparing for a possible war with the Soviet Union. I viewed the dialogue between Americans and Russians with some interest, since it humanized people I had only previously viewed as my enemy.
Three years later I was able to participate in my own personal Space Bridge. I had been assigned to the Russian city of Votkinsk, where I served as an inspector implementing the INF Treaty. Over the course of two years, I had many conversations with the citizens of Votkinsk, after which I vowed never again to view the Russian people as my enemy.
I have traveled to Russia twice in the past two years, continuing the conversations I began more than 37 years ago. I watch as my country once again seeks to view Russia and its people as enemies of America and Americans. I am struck by the importance of simple dialogue among people as the key to building friendship between nations. I am proud to be able to help facilitate such dialogue today, as part of this project.
The Venue
The Mohican Market, Kingston, New York
The Mohican was originally a market and bakery located in Uptown Kingston’s historic Stockade District. Established in 1880, the Mohican moved to its current address in 1930. For decades it was a popular place for the citizens of Kingston to do their shopping.
The Mohican is surrounded by American history—across the street is the courthouse where John Jay, the first Supreme Court Justice of the United States, wrote the Constitution of New York State—a document which went on to comprise some 70% of the US Constitution. The New York Constitution was written in the summer of 1777, when the Uptown Stockade District served as the first capital of New York State. British troops occupied Kingston on October 3, 1777, and burned the city to the ground as punishment for providing succor and haven for the revolutionaries.
As Kingston fell into hard times in the 1980’s, businesses in the Uptown Stockade District shuttered their windows. The Mohican was not immune to these economic difficulties and was abandoned like many other old establishments. In 2002 the Mohican property was purchased by Gerald Celente, the Founder/Director of the Trends Research Institute and Publisher of the Trends Journal. Today the Mohican serves as the headquarters of the Trends Research Institute, and the home of Gerald’s annual “Occupy Peace and Freedom” rally.
Gerald Celente speaking at the 2024 Occupy Peace and Freedom Rally
The Mohican serves as the perfect venue for introducing a Russian audience to the real America—the country that exists in the vast space that separates Los Angeles, California and New York City. For the purposes of the 2025 Citizen’s Summit, the Mohican will be transformed into an idyllic slice of Americana, a café where the participants can enjoy some food and drinks while being entertained with live music in the lead-up to the event.
The interior of the Mohican Market
The Event
The 2025 Citizen’s Summit will be streamed live in both Russia and the United States. For the American audience, the event will be broadcast using Gerald Celente’s YouTube channel (@gcelente). We are planning to link in audiences from the so-called “Family of Podcasts” that have collaborated in the past on events such as this; more information about how one can watch the 2025 Citizen’s Summit will be published in the days leading up to the event.
The number of people who will be in the live audience is, because of the intimate nature of the Mohican venue, capped at 50 participants. We are looking for a diverse mix of participants who would be interested in asking questions to their Russian counterparts about life in Russia and answering questions from their Russian counterparts about life in the United States.
If you live in the vicinity of Kingston, and would like to attend, please send an email to Scott Ritter.
Include your name, age, gender, background/experience, and a brief paragraph on what you hope to accomplish by participating in the Citizen’s Summit. If you are selected, you will be sent a ticket to the email address from which you submitted your request.
You will need this ticket to get into the venue.
The doors will open at 12 noon, and there will be a buffet for food and a bar for refreshments. A band will be playing in the background. Take the opportunity to mingle and get to know your fellow attendees—you’ll be making history together!
Everyone should be seated and ready to go at 2 pm sharp, when the event begins. The Citizen’s Summit will last three hours and will include several cultural interludes where Russian and American musicians and singers will perform.
And for the next three hours your hosts will guide you through an interactive experience that hasn’t been seen in 40 years—a genuine Citizen’s Summit where Americans and Russians can get to know each other through dialogue and conversation.
The event is free of charge, including the buffet and non-alcoholic drinks.
However, nothing in this life is free, and donations are welcome to help offset the costs associated with pulling off an event of this scope and scale (a donation button is located at the bottom of this page.)
To those of you who will watch the 2025 Citizen’s Summit via the live stream, know you will be joining a community of millions who will be sharing this experience.
And for those of you who will be participating as audience members in this interactive adventure, soak in every minute, because you will be making history.
In any event, I look forward to seeing you all in Kingston, either in person or online, on June 18 for this historic event—the 2025 US-Russian Citizen’s Summit!
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The US-Russia Summit that YouTube doesn’t want you to know about
Free speech is under attack. So, too, is the cause of peace. It is time to fight back.
Jun 16, 2025
I posted this video—a conversation between Pavel Balobanov, the organizer of the Russian side of the US-Russia Citizens’ Summit taking place on June 18th—last week,
YouTube has taken the video down for “violating terms of service.”
There is no violation—simply a conversation about the possibility of peace between the US and Russia.
YouTube doesn’t want this meeting to take place.
Neither does the US government, which just suspended negotiations with Russia over the normalization of relations between the US and Russia.
But we’re going to go forward with the summit none the less.
Someone has to be the adult in the room.
I’m reposting this video on Substack.
Share it far and wide.
Let YouTube and the US government know that peace through dialogue is the only option if humanity is to be saved.
Transkripzioa:
Welcome to this edition of the Russia House with Scott Ritter. Today we have a special issue. First of all, this conversation that I’m about to have is going to be shared to the general public. We’re going to publish it on the Russia House, but we’re going to make it available to everybody because, one,
I think it’s important that people now and then get to see the work that we’re doing here on the Russia House and how important it is and maybe encourage more people to subscribe. But as important or even more important, it’s about getting the topic that we’re going to discuss today, a resumption of the Space Bridge,
a resumption of the Citizens Summit 40 years ago. Phil Donahue, a very famous American media figure, and Vladimir Posner, a very famous Soviet media figure, got together at the height of the Cold War and engaged in a program of work, cooperation, to bring American voices and Russian voices together through a space bridge
connected through satellite communications where Russians could ask questions of Americans and Americans could ask questions of Russians. And we could begin the process of breaking down the wall of distrust and learning to recognize each other as humans. And this helped pave the way to the end of the Cold War. Today,
we look at the relations between the United States and Russia, and we see perhaps the beginning of a new Cold War. That seems to be a direction our two nations are heading. And how do we forestall this? How do we prevent this from happening? And the idea is to resurrect the Space Bridge, the Citizen Summit.
And on June 18th, there will be a new Space Bridge, a new Citizen Summit. I’m going to be the moderator for the American side. And today I have the privilege of introducing you to the moderator on the Russian side, a Russian businessman. Pavel Balabanov is the gentleman that I’ll be working with. This is his vision.
He conceived this idea and he brought it to me and together we’re going to make it work. So, What’s going to happen today is I’m going to have a conversation with Pavel. We’re going to talk about the Space Bridge, talk about the Citizen Summit, and then we’re going to publish it for everybody to see,
to attract attention to this idea, because this isn’t an idea that should be limited to a handful of people. This is an idea that needs to be shared with everybody, Russian, American, and the world. And that’s what we’re going to seek to do today on this issue of The Rush House with Scott Ritter.
Today, I have a very special guest, special in a number of ways. One, he and I are in the beginnings of what I hope is not just a new friendship, but an ongoing friendship. But two, it’s a friendship that’s premised upon, I think, a wonderful concept, the concept of dialogue, dialogue between Russia and the United States.
I’m going to let Pavel steal my thunder here for much of this, but I’ll drop you a hint. On June 18th, we’re going to be co-hosting the second round of what is known as the Citizens Summit, something that began 40 years ago, an experiment of dialogue between two nations conducted by Phil Donahue.
and Vladimir Posner, two giants amongst their respective colleagues in the field of media. Now, I don’t claim to be a giant, and I don’t know if Pavel will take that term on himself, but the mission is a giant one. It’s an important one. And in many ways, it’s more important today,
trying to breathe life into this concept of dialogue than it was 40 years ago when Phil Donahue And Vladimir Posner brought it to life. But again, welcome to the Russia House and welcome to you, Pavel. Thank you very much for coming. If you could, for an American audience, introduce yourself, who you are, what’s your background,
and why are you getting involved in this complicated world of trying to improve relations between the United States and Russia?
Yes, thank you again for having me, Scott. It’s a great honor for me to be here. You know, first of all, I would like to start with that I’m not a politician and I’m not a journalist. Though, by the way, in my early ages, I wanted to be a journalist. And I’m just an ordinary businessman.
So I don’t have a Wikipedia page. So I’m just a small business in consulting services. And I was born in a small town called Tikhin. Actually, it’s not so far from St. Petersburg, the second largest city of Russia. 70,000 people actually live there in Tikhin. And… I lived there until 17, before I entered university.
I graduated from university, Railway Transport University, and I was a programmer. In my early ages, I started actually already making money. It’s not big money, but money I can, you know, buy some stuff to my sister and my brothers and parents. I was a journalist when I was 13. And you know what I do?
Actually, I watched football matches on weekends. And then I published articles in a local newspaper. That’s what I actually did. Then I had an experience on the construction side as a worker. But then after university, not after university, when I was the first grade student, I began working as a barista. You know what barista means?
It’s like, yeah, actually, cook coffee. And I worked as a barista for one… a year and a half. And then I began working for the company called PSS. And now I’m an owner of this company, the major owner of this company and a general manager. That’s pretty much it.
But I would like to add, you know, I love English as well as I like Russian. I had a dream. I had a dream to watch movies in the original. And my favorite show, it’s an American show, Friends. And we love Friends with my wife. And that’s why I decided, you know, to learn,
to make my efforts to learn actually English until 28. I didn’t speak at all. But then, actually, I learned it. I didn’t study abroad, never ever. I have never lived abroad. i of course i visited different countries but i have never lived in that countries
i only live in russia and i did learn language here i have three children a beautiful wife she is a writer and with all my three children by the way from the very early ages actually from the very birth of them i speak only english My wife speaks Russian to them and I speak English because, you know,
it doesn’t matter what language is, but, you know, it matters because it develops your brain, you know, and as far as I know, it’s even healthy, quite healthy for our brain. So I guess pretty much it about me. If you have any more questions, I would like, of course, to answer them.
Well, the big question is, how did somebody of your background suddenly become the Russian face of the new Space Bridge, of the new U.S.-Russian Citizens Summit. You know, I can say this. I mean… My involvement is purely by accident. I’m actually plan B, but maybe plan C, we don’t know. But I can say this,
that I did know Phil Donahue and we were friends and we had collaborated on a number of projects before his passing. What’s your relationship with Vladimir Posner? I mean, how did you become so involved in this?
Actually, I don’t have any relationship with Vladimir Poznan, though, beginning from… I guess I was maybe… It was late 90s and early 2000s, and he had a program called Times. In English, it’s Times, and in Russian, it’s Vremina, Times. And actually, I loved watching it. Then he had a show, Posner, on the channel First in Russia.
And I actually loved watching his shows, not only because there were some insights I share with him, but also because of English, because he has a perfect English with American accent. Partly because, maybe mainly because, he actually lived in America quite a long time. Actually, he has three citizenships. First, American, French, and then Russian.
And, of course, about space bridges, which happened in the 90s. I watched them on YouTube. and i of course i was fascinated and i i loved them and uh moreover i would like to tell you that recently my wife sent me a link it was on tiktok or somewhere or
maybe in contact you in one of the social network and uh someone published just a short video from one of that space bridges and they were children they met each other and are asking questions to each other and there were a lot of comments under this video
what is this show and look how smart they are the children and they are talking to each other and i was like you have never watched it before it’s amazing and it seems to me that the interest to such shows actually you know coming back to us in my view. So, and that’s it. Yes.
But how did you come up with, because I mean, just for the audience sake, I, I wasn’t there at the birth. What I mean by that is I was contacted by Paula Day, who is a, a lady who has been involved in, uh, promoting dialogue between Russians and Americans in the past, in the 1980s, 1990s. Unfortunately,
because of the special military operation, the work of her group, CCI, came to a halt. But she reached out to me and said, there’s this energetic young Russian man who is trying to bring the space bridge concept back to life, to bring the citizen summit that began with Donahue and Posner
back to life and um you know your name came up as somebody who might be able to facilitate okay so the rest is history we we worked through it now we we’re going to do this on june 18th but um it was already a mature idea when i received that
phone call how did that idea come about yeah okay thank you for this question um actually my company a consulting company we We do every year an annual international conference. We call it BIM in practice. What BIM means, it’s abbreviation. It means building information modeling. We demonstrate different digital technologies for construction sites.
And people around the globe, they come to St. Petersburg and offline. And actually, we have, of course, online transmission, but mostly it’s an offline event. And they show what they do with all the digital technologies. And in September 2024, we had kind of space bridge with some guys from Italy, and they demonstrated what they do. Actually,
we were not fascinated by what they showed to us because we, in my view, we do even better here. But I kind of got an idea, why can’t we do a space bridge and gather professionals from one side and on the American side, and let them talk to each other, not through marketing materials or through,
I don’t know, articles in the internet, not through just text chats, but face-to-face. And what about if we are going… And we will, of course, encourage and invite journalists to moderate such dialogue. So I called up a very famous journalist. I’m not going to say his name because he, for some reasons,
there were reasons why he actually decided not to participate in it. But I called him and said, look, this is an idea. And he says to me, look, I have actually two questions. The first one, what about audience? You know, back then, back then 200 million people
watched it in Soviet Union, and 8 million, by the way, much less, right? 8 million watched in USA. How we will attract such an audience? That’s the first thing. The second one, the topic, is too narrow for me. I will not get myself prepared for this.
And I said to him, look, okay, let me figure it out, and I will come back to you. I came to the conclusion, okay, let’s do it during the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum. It’s a big event, international event. Why can’t we do this on the very first day of this event?
And of course, there will be media, great people and other stuff. That’s how we can attract audience. And the second one, topic. And I kind of, i uh said to myself yes you know that’s what important today the dialogue between ordinary citizens not even professionals but ordinary citizens who can speak to
each other share their ideas views and so on and so on yes we have to do this and then after this dialogue we can announce other space bridge professional space bridge but first We need to do this citizen summit, just ordinary people. And that’s how it all began actually.
And I would like here to add, you know, what surprised me and not in a good way. When I, came to this idea here in Russia. I, you know, I formed my company, actually, we were kind of sponsor of this international economic forum, sports event, not even forum itself, sports event.
And last year, I awarded with medals, you know, people who actually played hockey there. And I got acquainted with one of the guys there. I called him up and said, look, this is an idea. Let’s do it. And he said, it’s a great idea. Yes, let’s do it.
And almost all the people in Russia, high-ranked, low-ranked, doesn’t matter. They supported this idea from the very beginning. But when I contacted someone in USA uh and we contacted a lot of journalists you know uh actually tens of them and
these big names we got as a return either silence or no yeah it was like what i i don’t understand the usa sells no sorry for this word but sells kind of democracy and you know freedom of speech and something like this look this is a product i’m sure the usa will like it
and it was like and as a return i i got this and it was like why why russia does it and usa doesn’t do this and i that’s what surprised me a lot But thank for Polar Day. Yes, two months ago, we had everything prepared here in Russia in terms of place, studio, cameras, and support,
and et cetera. And we had nothing in the USA. Nothing. Only Polar Day. Yes, I contacted. You know why I contacted here and how I got acquainted with Polar? her organization citizen initiatives they interviewed twice vladimir posler and i kind of found them in the internet and there was just an email and i emailed them
and said look this is an idea what do you think about it and then two months ago she said to me about you scott that’s what happened well
With Paula, let me give you a little background on my end here. I actually wanted to do something similar to this last year. I had a Russian partner, I have a Russian partner, Alexander Zaryanov. Unfortunately, he was detained by authorities in Novosibirsk last June, and he’s still in detention to this day, accused of bribery or something,
but I don’t want to get into it because he’s still detained and I don’t want to create problems. I know him. He’s an honorable man, a decent man, and he’s innocent of the charges that they put forward based upon the information that I have to me. But that’s neither here nor there, except I would, you know,
in America, we talk about free this person. I’ll just go ahead and start the meme. Bri Alexander Zirionov, but we’ll move on now. He’s my friend, and he will always be my friend. But he brought me to Russia in April of 2023, and I was there for a month.
A very successful trip premised on a book that I had written in the United States, Disarmament in the Time of Perestroika. which was published by Komsomolskaya Pravda in Russia. We did a tour using this book as a vehicle to begin dialogue. And it was a very successful trip.
So successful that Alexander said, look, you’ve got to come back in the wintertime. We’ve got to continue this venture. And I did. And it was, again, a very successful trip, both in terms of getting to know the Russian people, but also for me to learn about Russia.
I’ve been a lifelong student of Russia, but you always learn better at mother’s feet, they say. So go to Mother Russia and learn from Mother Russia’s feet about Russia is a unique opportunity, and I’m very glad that I did it. But then Alexander and I said,
how do we share this more effectively with not just an American audience, but a Russian audience? How do we begin this dialogue? And so I have a podcast here in the United States, and the decision was we were going to take the podcast to Russia. We’re going to 16 different cities over the course of 40 days.
And we would, in each city, we would have a podcast that was designed to bring American voices and Russian voices together. And this program had received a lot of support. I can say that it had been briefed to the presidential administration and that regional support was also provided. And this program was going to happen.
It’s ironic that you mentioned the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum because I was invited to speak at the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum on two panels. And then from that, then to go off and begin this 40-day adventure of building a space bridge between Americans and Russians. And the U.S.
government stopped me at the airport and seized my passport and prevented this from happening. Why? because they are scared to death of this dialogue. You want to know why you got no or no answer from people? Because they’re cowards, because they are afraid. They’ve been intimidated by an American government that even in this day and age of
potential change continues to be infected by Russophobia. Russophobia is the fear of Russia, the irrational fear of Russia. But that fear is derived from ignorance, ignorance about Russia. The United States government was very concerned because I had made two trips to Russia and I’d come back and spoken very highly of Russia.
I published articles that talked about the reality of Russia. And now I was going to go to Russia for 40 days and build a space bridge between the American people and the Russian people. And the government at the time, the Biden administration, that was the last thing they wanted. So they not only seized my passport,
stopped my trip, but they sent 40 FBI agents into my home to intimidate me, to make me back down. Um, now one would think, okay, well with that experience under your belt, when Paula Day calls me and says, Hey, uh, Scott, would you like to get involved in this? I think the rational answer would be hell no.
I don’t want to have anything to do with this. I already had 40 FBI agents in my house. Do I really want them to revisit me? Uh, but the, the, the, the point is, um, this cause is too important. This cause is too noble. This cause is too just the, the,
the cause of bringing Russians and Americans together in common dialogue is critical if we’re going to survive as peoples. Behind me, where my thumb is, you see that. That is a replica of the Tsar bomb. The Tsar bomb is the world’s biggest nuclear weapon. It was tested by the Soviet Union. And
Inside that replica is a bunch of vodka. This was a gift given to me by the defense attaché, the Russian defense attaché, when I visited the Russian embassy on the occasion of May 9th, Victory Day. But this gift is only to be opened, and that vodka is only to be drunk when America and Russia
embark on a new arms control treaty the existing arms control treaty new start expires in february of next year and right now there’s no dialogue there’s no discussion there’s no negotiation so that vodka may never be drunk and if we get involved in an arms race that vodka may never ever be drunk because we’ll all be
dead so when you look at that the consequences of failure to have dialogue and you weighed off against me making the U.S. government even more angry at me because I want this dialogue, I’ll take the anger of the U.S. government over the death of the world any day of the year.
Now, I was told that, you know, they wanted to replicate the the initial space bridge, which was a big deal. Phil Donahue was in Seattle, and Vladimir Posner was in St. Petersburg, and big audiences, et cetera. But we have to also deal with realities. You may be a businessman. I am not.
Um, which means that, you know, budgets are an issue. And so we, we, you know, we had to come up with something that was within budget. Um, fortunately that, that, that sort of threw New York city out just so people understand you can’t even get into New York city unless you’re talking six figures and, um,
The improved Russian U.S. relations movement has never had a six-figure budget in its entire existence. So the idea is how to deal with a more reasonable… In Kingston, there’s this wonderful gentleman, Gerald Cilante. He is the editor of Trends Journal, been around forever. Gerald is very famous back in the 80s and 90s. He was a very…
well-known prognosticator. He would predict events in the future based upon in-depth research. He continues to this day. But Gerald is also a decent human being who believes in peace and justice, and he wants better relations between the United States and Russia. Every year,
he holds a rally in Kingston at what we call the crossroads of history in buildings that date back to before the American Revolution. indeed where he’s at is the birthplace of the u.s constitution most people don’t know that the new york constitution was written in kingston in 1777 before the city
was burned down by the british because they wrote the constitution there 70 percent of what became the united states constitution is drawn from that document that was written by John Jay. John Jay became the first Supreme Court Justice of the United States of America. And the building that we’re looking at is part of this history.
And Gerald owns this building. So I went to Gerald and I said, hey, can you help me out? And he said, well, what? I said, we’re going to do this space. And I explained it to him. And he said, Scott, I don’t have theater. I said, no, I don’t want the theater. What I want
If we’re going to do this, I want to show the Russian people America, the real America, not Hollywood, not New York City. Those are big cities. But the America that exists in between Americana, where people work, get up every morning, go to work to make a living.
Sometimes both parents have to have multiple jobs to make a living. Life isn’t easy in America. People, Russians should know that. Life in America is very difficult actually. To have this thing we call the American dream means we work ourselves to the bone. We don’t go on vacations.
Our health deteriorates because we have our nose to the grindstone all the time. We don’t learn how to appreciate life the way we should. And one of the reasons is that we are told that the world is a dangerous place. that the Russians are evil and that we have to work to pay taxes, to fund the military,
to be able to stand up to the Russians. And I said, I want to show the Russian people what America really is. Gerald Solante has this wonderful venue of the Mohican market, which has been converted into what we call the American cafe. And it is a cafe style layout. It is beautiful.
It’s going to be a smaller venue than what Phil Donahue had in Seattle, but it’s going to be an intimate venue. And it’s going to be a venue that shows a Russian audience what it’s like to be an American, what it means to be an American. And you’re going to hear from real Americans. You say, you know,
You didn’t know what the American response will be. I’ll tell you right now, I have for for every seat that we have available, I have four applicants and I’m going through and I’m getting more every day and I’m going through these applicants to pick people out who.
I believe will be able to ask great questions of their Russian counterparts and also answer questions given to them, but also truly believe in this concept. Some of the people may not speak, but they’re there to learn. And then they’re there to take the lessons learned from this event out to the American audience.
You say 8 million people watched the first, you know, Space Bridge in America. In the USA, right. 200 million in Russia. Now, I’m counting on you to get big Russian numbers. That’s your job. But what we’re going to do here is see, we don’t trust mainstream media anymore. Mainstream media is infected with Russophobia.
When you say Russia, they say evil. When you say Putin, they say dictator. We’re going with alternative media. I’ve been working with what I call the family of podcasts. We have, well, you know some, Judge Napolitano has a podcast. We have Danny Haifong. We have Garland Nixon. We have Joe Lauria.
We have a whole family of people who have podcasts, each of whom has a viewership of anywhere from 400,000 to over a million viewers. Max Blumenthal and The Gray Zone. And when we bring the family of podcasts together, We get an audience of three to five million right off the bat, just straight off the bat.
Three to five million people will watch. That’s better than any mainstream program you’re going to get on ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and all that. We outperform them. And if it’s a good program, we have the opportunity not only to have tens of millions of Americans watch it, but people around the world watch it as well.
So I think you’re going to find that when we hold this space bridge, it is going to catch the attention of the American people. And it’s catching the attention of the American people at the exact right time in history. Because unlike the previous administration, this administration is engaging in dialogue with Russia for the first time. uh,
an American government is speaking with their Russian counterparts about how to solve the many problems that exist. But there’s problems. There’s, it’s a difficult conversation to have. I’m looking at this space bridge as, um, a tutorial. We’re going to teach the American government and maybe provide some, um,
tips to the Russian government on how to carry out a dialogue, a meaningful dialogue, a dialogue that brings people together, not pushes people apart. But, um, I want to thank Paula Day for making that phone call. It’s been a nightmare because it’s a lot of work. But it’s something that I truly believe in.
And I believe in it so much that I put myself in a position to be detained by my government, to have FBI agents come into my house to try and intimidate me, to prevent me from doing this very thing. But what we’re doing is the right thing. It’s the right thing for America.
yes i couldn’t agree more with you and you know just a couple of remarks i would like to make um the dialogue itself you know face-to-face dialogue again not just by phone calls or through text chats it’s completely different and you begin understanding a person much better when you see him or her because you know
media can say something about a person but they can make out of nothing they can make a good thing and they can make a bad thing just by words that’s why you know the dialogue it i’m sure that after this dialogue in my view we will take the same
positions on things because we we though we look alike We are different, we live in different countries with different laws and et cetera. And very often, a person, it’s very difficult to climb down from your belfry, climb up the other person and see things from their perspective. It’s a very difficult thing to do.
But what we will achieve, I’m sure, it can reduce tensions and increase understanding, at least how people actually think. uh that’s it’s one thing another one i would like i really i really do not understand why we take too much you know too much efforts just to to destroy things
and not to construct them to go to mass for instance together because you know we just lose time for developing uh in the you know i read a lot i read a lot of facts uh which kind of you know usually are published by different universities or they were secret first and down
there kind of public ones i i read that then i read a lot of articles not only russian ones but english ones americans ones friends uh and i have you know, overview about things. So when I say something, I can say it objectively. And I really don’t understand why other countries actually, they don’t like Russia.
I don’t know why, because I can say it. When I was a small boy, maybe I was nine, maybe, yes, nine or 10, It was my first time when I watched Rambo, Rambo First Blood, Sylvester Stallone. And as I was watching it, there was an episode when Rambo actually fought guys in fur hats with the stars on
it. And I was like, wait a minute, who are these guys? russians why are we bad guys there so i i called mama could you explain to me why they’re showing us as bad guys and i don’t remember what she answered but that’s what it was and still is uh i don’t understand why Hollywood and USA,
they want not only their people to believe that we are bad, but they really want it and still want to believe us, Russians, that we are bad. Just recently, I thought before, yesterday, in the evening, I decided to watch a new brand, you know, brand new movie with Jason Statham. I love this guy, actually.
I love movies with him. The new movie is called A Worker, Construction Worker, something like this. Again, there is an episode. He shoots a guy. That guy actually falls down. He comes to this guy and buttons his shirt. And sees a tattoo on it. And you know what he said?
Because I like watching movies in original, as you know already. And he’s like, Russians. That’s not good. And I was like, what? And since we have, actually, we have in our, one of the movies platform, Russian movies platform, we have also this movie with Russian translation. And I decided to watch how we translated it.
And thanks God, we translated it, and you know how? He says, listen, mafia, this is not good. They changed it. This is good, in my view. They decided to do it. Why do you think, I would like to ask you, why do you think USA, they want us to believe that we are bad?
Because have you ever watched a Russian movie? First of all, took Two questions, the first one. Have you ever watched a Russian movie in your cinema? And if yes, whether we represented USA as bad guys or not? Because I have never watched such movies here and we never demonstrated actually USA, USA guys,
military service and so on as bad guys. I just have never watched such movies here. Why do you produce such movies? I mean, USA, not you. Could you tell me, what do you think of it?
It goes back to the time of the Russian Revolution and the rise of Bolshevism, which coincided with the rise of American workers’ rights, the unions, etc. And the industrialists in America were very much against unions. And so we… tended to characterize Bolshevism as evil. You know, that when people in the United States said, oh,
we want to create unions, you said, you’re Bolsheviks, you’re Bolsheviks, you’re like that Lenin character, you know, you’re evil. So right off the bat, Bolshevism became identified not only with evil, but with Russia, the Russian Bolsheviks. And then we further turn it into a cartoon with the rise of Stalin.
Because if you call somebody evil, the first thing that happens is you don’t really study them. You don’t need to. Because I’m trying to study to determine who you are, but I’ve already determined that you’re evil. So I don’t need to know anything about you. I just need to know that you’re evil.
So now Stalin comes into power, and we just say Stalin is evil, and we accept anything negative said about Stalin, and we ignore anything positive said about Stalin. And it created an interesting dynamic when the Second World War, Great Patriotic War began, and suddenly these Bolsheviks were our allies. We’re like, well, how does that happen?
And it was problematic. It required us to grossly oversimplify things because overnight, you know, I was in the military for a long time. And I learned this the hard way when I was standing in front of a general trying to explain to him why I was right and he was wrong. And he finally just shut me up.
He said, Lieutenant, let me just give you a big lesson in life. When you’re explaining, you’re losing. You’re losing, son. Get out of here. And that was it. So now, rather than explain to the American people why we were wrong about the Bolsheviks and how they became our friends, we just said, they’re our friends. They’re our allies.
They’re out there fighting the Germans. We’re like, oh, okay, that’s cool. But then the Second World War ended, and suddenly… We had complexities. Yalta. How do you explain Yalta to the American people? How do you explain Potsdam to the American people? How do you explain the complexities of what was going on in Europe to the American people?
You don’t. What you do is you have to pick an enemy. We had destroyed our one enemy, Nazi Germany. But in order to justify our continued presence in the world, we needed a new enemy. And you became it. the Soviet union, the iron curtain, the evil communists, Sputnik, you know, rockets, bombers. Oh my God, the cold war.
And you guys are the bad guys. And we sold you as the bad guys all the way up until the end. Um, You know, it’s funny you mentioned movies. In 1988, I went to the Soviet Union as an inspector to implement an arms control treaty, the Intermediate Nuclear Forces Treaty.
And we lived in the city of Vodkinsk in Utmyrtia because of the Vodkinsk machine building plant, which produced missiles that we were inspecting. And we worked with our Soviet counterparts at the factory. And so trying to improve relations, we decided to show movies, you know, say, hey, come on over for movie night. And they came over.
The first movie we showed was Dr. Strangelove, which is a Stanley Kubrick classic of the Cold War. It’s sold as a comedy about thermonuclear war, which tells you already it’s that. Now, Americans, we have a very complicated sense of humor, should I say. We find humor in things that most people wouldn’t. Now,
the Russian people also have a very deep sense of humor, but it’s a sense of humor grounded in reality and life. There are things that are funny, and there are things that aren’t funny, and nuclear war can never be funny. And yet, we’re showing them this movie, and it basically portrays the Soviets, the Russians,
as the bad guys. And we’re going to go to nuclear war against them. And the Americans, we’re just laughing. We’re laughing. As Slim Pickens takes the atomic bomb down to Russia like it’s a cowboy, we’re laughing. And the Russians are like, this is horrible. This is the worst thing in the world. Why are you laughing?
Couldn’t understand us at all. Well, because you didn’t view us, you, the Russians, didn’t view us as evil. We viewed you as evil. We had no problem with dropping nuclear weapons on you conceptually because you’re evil. Now, as we became friends, there was a short period of time, I’d say, between 1988 and 1991,
when we actually moved on the path of becoming friends with the Russian people. But why? Because we respected you, because you were the Soviet Union, because you were strong. But then the Soviet Union fell. And here’s the problem that I think many Russians will, they might have trouble seeing this from my perspective, but I’m,
russians stopped loving russia you stopped being proud of who you were and i will tell you this about the american people we are a nation of people who made it on our own we landed on these shores and we conquered a continent i’m not saying it
was good i’m you know the genocide of the american indians i’m not proud of it all that but we hacked our way across this continent what we have we earned we earned with our blood We’re in with our sweat. We’re in with our tears. We built this country. We built this country.
And so when we look in the mirror, we’re proud of who we see. We see an independent, strong American. You know, what is an American? You know, we talk about the Russian soul. Well, I know what a Russian is, and Russians have souls. And so when I speak of the Russian soul,
I can speak of it collectively amongst the Russian nation. What is the American soul? There is no American soul, because what is an American? be of irish background italian background german background because you are young you know young country you don’t know that young anymore but we are still
relatively young but um we don’t you know we don’t identify in terms of the soul we identify in terms of concepts americans are free americans are independent Americans are proud. Some people say Americans are arrogant. Probably true, too. But the point is, when we look at ourselves, we’re proud of who we are.
I think the Russian people fell out of love with Russia in the 1990s when the Soviet Union collapsed. And they forgot what the Russian soul was. The Russian soul dissipated. And instead, they started looking to the West and say, we want to be like them. So as an American, when I look at the Russians at that time,
I’m saying they aren’t proud of themselves. They don’t respect themselves, so I won’t respect them. I won’t try to understand what’s going on. Instead, I take a simplistic standpoint, because remember, if you’re explaining, you’re losing. So to explain the Russian people to America, we build upon existing stereotypes, the Soviet Union, The Russians are bad.
The Russians are evil. And then we put on top of that new stereotypes from Russia. It’s a mafia country ruled by the mafia, by people who only respect violence. They drink vodka. That’s who Russians are. And so Hollywood sells the Russian people to America
And what happens is you have Russians leaving Russia, coming to America, who say that’s true. Russia’s a horrible place. The Russian government is horrible. Crime is everywhere. And so Russians leaving Russia are selling this mindset to Americans who are ready to accept it.
Now, the last time prior to me going to Russia in 2023, I was there in 1992 at the The Russian Federation was brand new, and Russia had a lot of problems. That was the Russia that I remember in my mind. I remember the Russia when it was Soviet Union,
but I also remember Russia literally five years later when it was Russia, and it wasn’t the same at all. I went back in 2023. I saw something completely different. What I saw were Russians who were proud of being Russians. That was something new to me. That was something new.
I saw Russians who had recaptured the Russian soul and put it in their hearts. And the other thing I was struck with is they had so much to be proud of. I mean, I’m a proud American. You won’t find an American more in love with his country than me.
I know that we have many faults, but we do it right, too. We are good people. We have a good country. We have problems, but we’re going to fix them. But when I went to Russia, I don’t know what I was expecting, but what I saw wasn’t what I was expecting. Yes, the big cities are beautiful.
Moscow, St. Petersburg. But what you hear from everybody is that’s because that’s where all those Bolsheviks put their money and they’re fooling you. It’s fake. You know, it’s fake. Well, the first city I landed in, in April of 2023 was Novosibirsk. And first of all, that was a shock to the Novosibirsk border control people because they’re like,
why isn’t American landing here now? People need to understand that in April 2023, no Americans were traveling to Russia. The relations had been just cut off totally and there was no connectivity whatsoever, no dialogue taking place. So for an American to show up in Novosibirsk, they were just like, This can’t be right. This is a mistake.
But it was the right thing. And I saw this wonderful city. It’s, you know, the third city of Russia. I think Hekaterinburg likes to compete for that title, so let them compete. But Novosibirsk calls it the third, the largest growing economy, the capital of the region that has, you know, the most vibrant economy in all of Russia.
But this was a city that’s supposed to be under sanctions. I didn’t see any decline. I saw people working. I saw people proud. Culture center. We’re going to talk about culture in a minute. The opera house. I learned about the Novosibirsk Opera House and when it was built during the Second World War, the Great Patriotic War,
when every effort was meant to be going to the front of Stalin, that brutal dictator, had the foresight to build an opera house to celebrate culture because part of that Russian soul that we speak of is founded in culture, in beauty, in art. And then I went to Irkutsk. I went to, you know, St. Petersburg.
I went to Vodkinsk. I returned to Vodkinsk. Ijevsk, Kazan, Kazan, Volgograd. I mean, if you don’t get tears in your eyes when you stand on, you know, you know, the motherland beckons. You see that statue and you look out and you see the battlefield that was Stalingrad, today Volgograd. I, you know, I saw so many,
I went to Grozny, Grozny, Chechnya, which had been bombed into obliteration, gone, finished, and yet to see it rebuilt, and you realize that the Russians and the Chechens who should hate each other love each other. They live together in peace. Why? Because of dialogue.
Because Ahmad Kadyrov said that was Vladimir Putin, and they talked, and they worked it out. And they let the past be the past. They built a foundation to make a future, and that future exists. Now, the thing is, I came back to the United States, and I’m trying to sell this reality to the American people.
But it doesn’t resonate, because they don’t have a foundation of knowledge to build upon this. When I try to tell them that the Russians are good, they say, no, when I look on TV, the Russians are just problems. They’re the bad guys. When I try to say that Russia is beautiful, they say, no, no, no.
Russia has collapsed. It’s evil. The oligarchs, corruption, the dictators, it’s a dark, gloomy, militaristic state. I say, no, not at all. Not even close. So how do we overcome this information gap? we can only do it by dialogue we can only do it by talking as you said face to face
you know when when russian cinema you you see i i know this because my wife is from georgia by the way uh soviet georgia uh and but the russians have seen all the american classics you watch hollywood i think more than we watch hollywood So you see America as we’re trying to present America at its best.
But you also see sort of a cartoon caricature of America. It’s not the real America. But we don’t see the real Russia unless we watch Russian cinema, which no American, we don’t show it in our theaters. But I can go on YouTube. And I can look at the Russian movies. I can look at the classics. I mean,
if you want to study, you know, Americans look at World War II and we see Saving Private Ryan and we see, you know, Fury and we see other movies of this nature, Band of Brothers. But you can go on YouTube and you can watch, you know, Russian movies about the war, Soviet movies about the war.
And you’d be surprised because these movies are heartfelt. They’re very human. They’re very real. They’re not the glorification to violence that we get in the United States. It’s about the Russian soul. It’s about what it means to be a Russian. about what it means to be a Russian son going home to the village where his mother
waits for them, what it means to be a Georgian father who receives notice that his son is wounded and leaves the village to go searching for his son through combat zone after combat zone after combat zone. What it means to be a sergeant of an all-female unit in the rear and they suddenly
have to deal with German paratroopers, but it’s not your classic war movie of violence. It’s about a man trying to care for these girls as if they’re his daughters, you know, and then to watch them die one by one by one, you know, this is the cinema of, of, of Russia. And you look at it today.
I mean, some of the classics we watch, uh, you know, a man who meets the wrong woman for New Year’s. I mean, it’s a classic movie we watch every New Year’s. I forget the name of it, but he flies to a city instead of going to his fiancee with another woman and they fall in love.
But you look at this and you say, wait a minute, this isn’t what I was taught. Wait a minute, these are people, these are humans. These are humans who are doing things with emotion that we Americans feel. Why am I crying when they’re crying? They’re Russians. I shouldn’t have the same emotion with the Russians.
Why are they laughing and I’m laughing? Are you telling me that they think it’s funny as I’m funny? They can’t. They’re Russians. The Russians are human beings just like we are. At the end of the day, we laugh at the same things. We cry at the same things. We appreciate the same things.
We appreciate that which is human. So we need this dialogue. And this is why I’m dedicated to this project. Because, yes, we can talk in glorified terms of peace and bettering relations, and that’s all very important. But none of that happens unless we get Russian people and American people to view
each other as fellow human beings who are prisoners on this same planet. And if we don’t do what it takes to make life livable, we’re all going to perish. So we need to learn to appreciate each other. And I think the Russians, this is a task for the Russian people.
You can ask questions about America and you should ask all the questions you want. We’ll give you the answers. We’re not shy. But you need to teach us about the reality of Russia. That’s your job. You need to teach us about the reality of Russia. You need to break through the Russophobia.
You need to break through the prejudice of Hollywood cinema, where when we look at a body, we go, oh, Russians, that’s not good. Instead, what we want to do, because look at how we treat Italy or France. Okay, France, Paris, the city of love. So when Americans go to France, it’s to fall in love.
But St. Petersburg is a city of love. Moscow is a city of love. You know, Russia is a nation of love. Italy, that’s where we go to fall in love again with wonderful people. russia that’s where we go where guys a fur hat we want to hit them with a knife we
have to change this so that when americans see i hope we do yeah that’s what that’s what our job is that’s what our task is it’s a very human job it’s a very practical job and it’s a very important job scott i’d like
to add something for what you for what you said, you know, I would like to confirm that we have plenty of beautiful cities in Russia. And by the way, you were in Novosibirsk in 2023, as you said, and you know that that new the new cities I would like to say how they actually look today actually it
happened for the last several years just beginning maybe from 2014 the situation in Russia you know become became better and better all the time and I remember 90s I remember me playing football matches in dirt There were no football pitches at all. Now, even in small towns, football pitches almost in all the courtyards. I’m from the small,
you, by the way, named quite a lot, quite big cities anyway, like Volgograd, Novosibirsk, Yekaterinburg, Kazan, big cities, not Megalopolis, but big. I would like to tell you that small Tichvins, much more beautiful today it’s a it’s a very nice town and people not only government government has certain budget they can distribute and uh build something
but also business began helping uh to to build the cities and uh it’s very beautiful and uh yes russia is beautiful and we have a lot of culture as you mentioned already Russian bullet, you know, St. Petersburg, it’s a mecca of Russian bullet. And we have a lot of things to watch here,
and I would like to invite all Americans to visit Russia and see it not through media, not through media which portraits Russia, not in a good way, see it with their own eyes. I remember, by the way, 2011, I went to London, by the way, to improve a little bit my English.
And a guy from Italy very seriously asked me, is it dangerous to live in Russia? I was like, I was shocked. What? Why do you think this way? What does it mean living dangerous? You know, kind of, I live. i make you know business there so i go to the theaters cinemas and so on about
cinemas by the way uh before 2020 i guess mostly mostly scott i watched american movies and we kind of saw a world through that hollywood’s movies they’re good with some of the problems i already mentioned but we approached in most of the cases Russian movies like Russian movies kind of
oh no Hollywood this is good Russian movies is not that good yes old movies are good about by the way the second world war and even when we were small children we saw it together all the families we watched this movie and still watch it but when it comes to movies after 90s
if they are they are not good and then i started watching recently maybe two two two years ago i started watching russian movies we have wonderful movies wonderful tv shows uh you know recently anna detective for instance or the formula of criminal and so and so just very very very beautiful and they um show St.
Petersburg small cities not so far from Moscow about life and by the way Russian soul and I started loving them and you are right that we are proud of our country we became proud of our country you know it’s gradual gradually it happened not
overnight gradually we became proud of our country and this is very good and in the end of my speech i would like to tell you that this is very good you are proud of your country you are citizens of your country i’m proud of my country and in this space
speech we would we would like just to share so our you know our feelings about ourselves and about each other This is very good. That’s what we are going to do. And I’m sure we will do it successfully.
There’s no doubt in my mind. You know, when I approached Gerald Solante about this concept, he’s a man from the Bronx. If you know anything about New York City and the Bronx, it’s a tough neighborhood. He’s a tough, tough guy. But he said, you know, we can’t change humanity simply by talking.
He said that we need beauty in life. We need beautiful things. And he said that, and he, I’m not gonna say chastised me, but he cautioned me. He said, as you work to promote peace, don’t forget the beautiful things in life. That what’s gonna bring peace is a renaissance of the soul.
And Renaissance requires us to appreciate art and music, et cetera. So I was thrilled to death when I’m not going to give away the farm here because people have to tune it. But when you sent me your initial outline, that there was culture built into it. And so this isn’t going to be just about people talking.
That’s very important. It’s going to be mostly what we do. But it’s also going to be a shared cultural experience, meaning that there’s going to be some music, some singing. And I think this is great because, again, I don’t want to give away too much, but I think I can say this,
Murinsky Opera, yeah, forgive me. You’re talking to a Marine who can barely speak English, let alone conquer the Russian language. But Murinsky, I had the privilege of attending that opera on New Year’s Eve to watch Tchaikovsky’s Nutcracker Suite. Yeah, and it was just a magnificent experience.
But the thing that made it even more magnificent was that the entire theater was full of average Russians. Yeah. Average Russians who brought their kids, who brought their family. This was a Russian cultural experience. You know, when you think of the opera in America, you think of elites, you know, the people who can afford the tickets,
who can wear the fancy clothes. But what I saw around me weren’t Russian elites, but Russians. Yeah, true. Normal Russians. So I’m hopeful that… we’ll be able to show that side of Russia to an American audience and for Americans to appreciate that. Then we’ll show you a little bit of a passage for culture here in America too.
So it’ll be a shared experience, but I’m really looking forward to this. Well, this is going to be a groundbreaking event. I think that we’re going to hit a home run. That’s an American term. That means it’s going to be a winner. And that from this, we’ll be able to organize additional space, you know,
because Phil Donahue and Vladimir Posner, they didn’t just have one space bridge, they had several. And that played a very important role.
That’s a spinoff. That’s right. I mean, you know, we can start a race, but we have a baton. We hand the baton off to others and they can continue the race. And so that’s what we’re going to do. I thank you for your courage. I thank you for your vision. I thank you for your passion.
Now, we have to be careful. You’re a businessman. You understand that. I think Nike has already trademarked that. But what the hell? Let’s do it.
It’s a pleasure talking with you. And I look forward to working with you. Thanks. Bye. Just do it. I couldn’t come up with a better motto for this effort. Just do it. You know, people talk. There’s an old saying, you can talk the talk, but can you walk the walk?
And, you know, there’s a lot of talk today about improving Russian-U.S. relations. But as you heard from Pavel, when Americans were given the opportunity to step up and become a part of this space bridge, they turned down that opportunity. because they can’t walk the walk. They don’t have what it takes at this juncture.
It’s a very difficult journey to ask somebody to embark on because it requires a certain amount of courage, a courage of your convictions to overcome the prejudice that exists not just in government, but amongst American society as a whole. But we’re never going to have good relations with Russia unless we overcome these prejudices,
and we’re never going to overcome these prejudices unless we have meaningful dialogue with the Russians. The best way to learn that the Russian people are not our enemies is to have a conversation with the Russian people. And Pavel and I are going to be doing that on June 18th. We invite everybody to join us.
It’s the U.S.-Russia Citizens Summit, the new space bridge. It will be broadcast on… on a number of channels that will be published on the eve of this dialogue. But it’s imperative that this isn’t just a conversation between a handful of Russians and a handful of Americans, but this rather becomes the precursor for an ongoing conversation between the
Russian people and the American people. We need to teach our respected governments how to have good relations, how to engage in civil conversation, how to have a meaningful dialogue without shouting, how to have a debate that doesn’t turn into conflict. And that’s what we’re going to do on June 18th.
It’s sort of an extension of what we’re trying to do here on the Russia House. to expose the reality of Russia to an American audience. So I’m very glad that we are able to bring Pavel today on the Russia House to continue this experiment in citizens’ diplomacy.
Thanks for tuning in, and I’ll see you next week on the Russia House with Scott Ritter.
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Ritter’s Rant Ep. 7: A Nation of Laws
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Ritter’s Rant Ep. 7: A Nation of Laws
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We claim to be a nation of laws, but in reality we are a lawless mob nobody can trust. How do we change this?
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Welcome to this edition of Ritter’s Rant. Today we’re going to discuss international law, in particular how it applies to the United States of America. The United States of America is a nation defined by law. Our Constitution is the the founding law of the land. It defines us as a nation of laws.
And we have principles and values that are linked to these legal concepts. But for laws to be viable, they have to be enforceable and to be enforced. If you have a law on the books and people are allowed to break it willy-nilly, you might as well not have the law.
You become a land that’s no longer defined by the rule of law, but by lawlessness. Let’s take a look at how the United States operates internationally, in particular with the case of the ongoing Israeli-Iranian conflict. Let’s just start off by the fact that Israel began this conflict with a surprise attack. We Americans understand that.
On December 7th, we celebrate Pearl Harbor Day. Pearl Harbor Day was the day that Imperial Japan attacked the Pearl Harbor Naval Base in Hawaii, a day that President Roosevelt labeled as a day of infamy. Infamy is not a good word. It’s a word that condemns the perpetrator.
And Japan was condemned for their actions and continually will be remembered as a nation that carried out a surprise attack against a sleeping United States. Well, Israel has carried out a Pearl Harbor type attack against Iran. There’s no justification for this attack. Israel hasn’t tried to go to the United Nations Security Council under Article 51
and justify its actions based upon an imminent threat posed by Iran, because that argument would fall apart. The United States intelligence community certainly doesn’t support that. There is no Iranian nuclear weapons program that poses an imminent threat. Even the International Atomic Energy Agency, which worked with the Israelis to create the perception of a threat,
has to acknowledge today that no such threat exists. So Israel committed to an act of aggression. If we go back to the Nuremberg tribunals, we see that Judge Jackson, who was the lead prosecutor, Supreme Court justice prosecutor in the Nuremberg trials, labeled a war of aggression as the supreme crime, because from that crime, all other crimes emanate.
And this is what Israel has done. It shouldn’t be a surprise, though, that we… We let Israel get away with this. Israel has gotten away with genocide against the Palestinian people now for many, many months. And the United States doesn’t seem to be too appalled for that. But what about the behavior of the United States? You see,
we’re the ones that lulled Iran into a false sense of complacency by promoting negotiations. We said that there is a negotiating process. there’s an off-ramp linked to negotiations that could prevent a conflict. And if Iran would just participate, then this thing could end peacefully. And Iran was participating. Ali Shamkani, who is the lead Iranian negotiator,
two days before he was killed by the Israelis in their Pearl Harbor type event, said that Iran was ready to sign a peace, to sign a treaty that said no nuclear weapons, to limit enrichment to 3.75%. That needed for the, you know, for the, production of nuclear power,
limit the number of centrifuges to allow American inspectors on the ground to verify an agreement, to do anything necessary to prevent a war. And the Iranians were preparing for this negotiation when the Israelis attacked. But now what it appears is that the American president was complicit with the Israelis. that he had set the Iranians up.
And so what we’re talking about is the crime of perfidy. Perfidy is where you operate under a flag of truce, lulling the other side into believing that there is a safe space for negotiations, and then you attack them. This is a crime, a war crime. Israel has committed that war crime, but so too has the United States.
We are guilty of this. And it’s not just that we’ve committed perfidy against Iran, but we’ve committed perfidy to matter makes us to be untrustworthy anywhere in the world. Who is going to trust us going forward? And that is a… That’s a fair and viable question. Can the United States be trusted?
I just finished doing an international summit, a U.S.-Russia summit, a citizen summit, where American citizens and Russian citizens sat down and talked to one another about how we can improve relations. But The issue of trust came up. And the question is, can the Russians trust us? Now, interestingly enough, the answer was provided by the American citizens,
which is no, you can’t trust us. We lie. I think this put the Russians off a little bit. And it led them to say, look, we’re here. We’re talking to you. But if you want to rebuild trust, the onus is on you, on America. You have to take action. that will help rebuild this trust.
And so the question is now, how can the United States regain a reputation of being a trustworthy partner in peace? What do we have to do to regain the trust of the world, of Russia, of Iran, of anybody? It’s almost a bridge too far, an insurmountable task, but we have to try, we have to do something.
The first thing would be to stop talking about going to war with Iran. We need to acknowledge that Israel is not the victim here. Israel is the perpetrator of this violence and that this war only ends when Israel stops bombing Iran. This war will only truly end when the world allows Iran to have a nuclear attack. program,
a peaceful nuclear program that is not constrained with any Iran-only additional protocols. It is governed by the same safeguards agreements that the International Atomic Energy Agency has with other nations, that Iran is just like every other nation in the family of nations when it comes to nuclear energy. This has to be, and it will only
truly be resolved when we deal with the threat of israel’s nuclear weapons that israel cannot be allowed to have nuclear weapons that fall outside the framework of the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and yet scream bloody murder when other nations aren’t developing nuclear weapons and using their non-development of
nuclear weapons as an excuse to carry out a surprise attack that could drag the united states into a regional conflict that could lead to global conflagration um But how about with Russia? How do we move forward with Russia? That’s a broader question. I’ve been pondering for some time. And I think before we have trust,
we have to have a framework upon which we can even begin the discussion. Right now, in February of next year, the New START Treaty, the only remaining arms control treaty between Russia and the United States expires. And as things stand, if it expires, both Russia and the United States will enter into an arms control race,
an arms race, where we will seek to increase the number of deployed nuclear weapons. We will build new missiles. We will talk about building missile defense that will be destabilizing. In short, we will put both of our countries on a path towards eventual nuclear confrontation. The best way to is to extend this treaty,
to give this treaty an additional lifespan, and then use the time created by this extension to begin to build the trust necessary to engage in meaningful discussions that can lead to a resumption of arms control, stopping an arms race before it begins, and preventing a nuclear war before it has a chance to manifest itself.
And so, you know, the Russians had said, action, you have to undertake action. And so I’m here to tell you on Friday, I will be announcing a project, Project 38, which will lay out a campaign plan to achieve just this result, to get the United States government to agree to an extension of the New START
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Ritter’s Rant Ep. 8: Peace through Strength
Ritter’s Rant Ep. 8: Peace through Strength
Trump’s mantra would more accurately be “War through Weakness”
Transkripzioa:
Hello and welcome to this edition of Ritter’s Rant. Today I’m going to be focusing on the concept of peace through strength. This, of course, is the mantra of the Trump administration, of the president himself. Peace through strength. He campaigned for president on a platform of peace. He lulled the Americans into a false sense of complacency,
believing that he was sincere about pursuing rapid peaceful outcomes in ukraine in gaza in the middle east as a whole we were told that this man was going to resolve the ukraine conflict in 24 hours now we all knew that it was unrealistic but we at least expected some sort of concerted effort to responsibly engage with the
parties involved, including the Russians, to bring about conflict termination. Gaza, we were told that thing’s going to end. I mean, indeed, even before the president was sworn in because of his intervention, there was a ceasefire in Gaza. But almost immediately, once the president became president, we saw the Israelis violate it,
saying that was the agreement they had with this president all along, which means he was lying to us when he said he wanted to peace in Gaza. They wanted to bring an end to that conflict. He was just buying time for the Israelis to do what the Israelis do best, continue their policies of genocide,
to murder more Palestinians, to carry out wars of aggression in Iran. Iran was the ultimate deception. You see, he didn’t just deceive the American people when he said back in September of 2024 that he wasn’t seeking regime change in Iran, that he felt that we could live
a normal relationship with Iran, that there was a deal to be had. He wanted a new, better deal with Iran on the nuclear agreement, and that’s what he was going to pursue. But what we find out is actually he was working with the Israelis to use the perception of peace as subterfuge for creating the conditions of war.
I mean, the Israelis did launch a surprise attack against the Iranians without any justification under international law, and it appears that the president went along with this. After all, one doesn’t use the term we lightly when speaking of Israeli actions against Iran. That means that we, Israel and the United States, were involved in this.
This was the deception. This man doesn’t want peace. He only wants strength. Peace was a subterfuge. But here’s the kicker. If you’re going to basically define your administration’s national security posture on the notion of peace through strength, and you’re going to totally disregard the possibility of peace,
you better damn well be strong because you’re going to get a lot of conflict. But what we found out with this president is there is no strength. Yes, the United States of America possesses considerable military power. But that military power must be linked with decisive leadership in order for it to actually be meaningful.
But when instead it’s linked to a narcissistic egomaniac who only cares about himself and not the nation, who puts the interests of his legacy above the national security interests of the United States, what happens on every occasion so far is that he will back down. a narcissist, an egomaniac who’s not willing to make the ultimate sacrifice.
For instance, when we are talking about sending American forces into war, we are talking about asking men and women to die for their country. So what we need is a political leader who understands the consequences of his or her action and is willing to pay the price because a determination has been made
That there is an issue out there that requires the potential shedding of American blood to seek a resolution. So what price is the president willing to pay? And the answer is no price at all. None whatsoever. Because the man is a moral coward, a physical coward, an intellectual coward. So peace through strength is an absolute fallacy.
We aren’t strong on Ukraine because we can’t confront the Russians decisively, not that I’m encouraging us to do so, but we also can’t confront our European allies decisively. We can’t confront the Ukrainians decisively. Look at the disingenuous manner in which this president is dealt with Ukraine. He won’t come out and say what needs to be said,
which is we will no longer support this conflict against Russia. This war was started by Zelensky. This war is the fault of Ukraine. And therefore, Ukraine must terminate this conflict on terms acceptable to Russia. That is the policy of the United States. We’re washing our hands of Ukraine. That would be strength.
You can’t turn to NATO saying that you have jumped into this conflict. You’ve now defined your very existence based upon predicated on the need for conflict. And America is not going for that. That if NATO insists on going down this path, it will do so without the United States. That would be strength. But instead,
this president leads the Ukrainians into believing that there is somehow a magic deal, the precious metals deal or the earth deal, where Ukraine was sitting on hundreds of billions of dollars that could be turned into weapons, that the United States would provide the weapons to continue this conflict. We’re not going to provide anything.
It was a lie that we’ve told the Ukrainians that We’ll back the Europeans. We may not be involved, but we’ll work with the Europeans. We’re not going to work with the Europeans. It was a lie. But then we told the Russians that we were going to negotiate with them, sit down with them, work to improve relations.
But no, that was a lie too. Donald Trump ended those negotiations. Why? Because he’s not man enough to deal with the consequences of his actions. Peace through strength. There is no strength, and now there’s no peace. The same thing in Gaza. But the place that it really rubs me raw is Iran.
Because Iran is a problem that the United States has been wrestling with for decades. And we know the reality of Iran. And we also know who’s to blame for the tension between the United States and Iran, and that’s Israel. And we know that Israel has not been an honest broker in its relationships with Iran.
We know that the Iranian nuclear crisis is a manufactured crisis. We’ve known for over two decades that Iran is not pursuing a nuclear weapon. We’ve been monitoring Iran through the International Atomic Energy Agency, and we know that Iran doesn’t want a nuclear weapon. And yet we’ve allowed Israel to manufacture a case for an illegal war of aggression
predicated on the existence of an Iranian nuclear weapons program that we know doesn’t exist. We don’t have the strength to stand up to Israel and say, not just no, but hell no. Instead, the coward goes behind the scenes, cooks up a secret deal with Israel to launch a surprise attack while we are negotiating with the Iranians.
That’s not peace through strength. That’s perfidy. That’s cowardism. That’s a disgrace. And that’s what this president is. This whole notion of peace through strength actually weakens America. Because if he was honest and said, we will be strong because we pursue war, maybe the American people wouldn’t have voted him into office,
but at least he would be honest about what he’s about. But even here, he can’t be honest because if we’re going to be strong through the pursuit of war, then go to war, damn it. But this president can’t go to war. Because he’s a coward. He doesn’t have what it takes to go to war.
He tried to confront the Houthi in Yemen and was compelled to back down. The United States of America packed its bags and ran away from the Houthi. Not because the Houthi are cowards. No, they’re very brave fighters. It’s because we don’t have what it takes to finish the job. Because the job isn’t worth finishing.
Because this job is about the prestige of Donald Trump. And the moment the going got tough, Donald Trump got going. And that’s where we are today as America. peace through strength, there isn’t peace through strength. America is weak, not because America is weak, but because its leadership is weak. And as a result, instead of peace,
we get war, war in Ukraine, war in Gaza, and now war with Iran. That’s my rant, and I’ll see you the next time. Bad thoughts cross my mind.
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Project 38
Project 38
(https://scottritter.substack.com/p/project-38?r=1vhv3f&triedRedirect=true)
Jun 20, 2025
The Problem
On February 4, 2026, the last remaining strategic arms control treaty between the United States and Russia, New START, will expire. Void of an extension of this treaty, or the activization of an alternative arms control mechanism that replicates/improves on the existing treaty, there will be an extremely high risk of both the US and Russia feeling compelled to enter an expensive and potentially catastrophic nuclear arms race.
This danger is further magnified by the Trump administration’s pursuit of a new national ballistic missile defense scheme, known as the Golden Dome, which even as a concept is destabilizing from an arms control and disarmament perspective.
The Trump administration has not articulated a clear vision when it comes to resolving the need to extend New START prior to its expiration or the complications raised in this regard by the pursuit of the Golden Dome initiative.
The Solution
Project 38 is a campaign that seeks to promote effective arms control and disarmament policy and, in doing so, avoid the dangers of a new nuclear arms race.
Project 38 has one objective: to gain access to President Trump and/or his senior national security and foreign policy advisors for the purpose of making a 38-minute “elevator pitch” on the need for an alternative policy approach toward arms control and disarmament between the United States and Russia.
This pitch will emphasize
(a) the political importance of arms control in so far as it fulfills the core campaign promise made by Trump of seeking peace and stability while avoiding nuclear war.
(b) the increasing danger of inadvertent nuclear conflict between the US and Russia;
(c) the importance of arms control in stabilizing relations between the United States and Russia and decreasing the threat of nuclear conflict; and
(d) the destabilizing impact that missile defense has on achieving meaningful disarmament and facilitating a nuclear arms race, together with the fiscal and technical challenges faced by the Golden Dome concept which impact its viability as a concept.
The goal of this briefing is to get President Trump to consider policy initiatives to
(a) engage meaningfully on extending New START as a means of sustaining strategic stability between the United States and Russia regarding nuclear weapons;
(b) to begin negotiations with Russia to craft a replacement arms control treaty with Russia that avoided a new arms race which promoting further cuts in the nuclear arsenals of both the United States and Russia; and
(c) to delay efforts to deploy the Golden Dome shield while these arms control talks are underway, with the understanding that a successful negotiation would preclude the need for the Golden Dome system.
Implementation
Project 38 is grounded in the events of January 13, 2018, when the citizens of Hawaii were informed that there was a ballistic missile inbound to their location, that they needed to seek shelter, and this was not a drill.
For the next 38 minutes the citizens of Hawaii believed that they were living their last moments on earth, and they collectively had to deal with the emotional and psychological consequences of that reality.
Fortunately, the alert was a false alarm. But for 38 minutes those who received the notification believed that they and their loved ones were about to die. For them, those 38 minutes were as real as it could get.
Project 38 asks, and answers, two questions that are derived from this 38-minute experience:
(1) If you could go back in time, six months prior to the missile that would take your life and those of your loved ones being launched, what would you be willing to do to prevent that launch?
(2) Why aren’t you doing it now?
Project 38 seeks to answer these questions by seeking out meaningful engagement with the Trump administration at the highest possible level to affect the kind of policy formulation and implementation which would create the conditions necessary to prevent the kind of event hypothesized during the Hawaiian false alarm event.
Project 38 is operating on a very aggressive schedule intended to achieve results prior to the expiration of the New START treaty on February 4, 2026.
Project 38 is, in many ways, a straight up business proposition: in exchange for the 38 minutes of terror induced by the lack of meaningful arms control policy during his first term, President Trump will provide 38 minutes of access to a team of specialists seeking to make sure there are no failures of arms control policy going forward that could induce a similar event.
Project 38 will comprise two primary tracks—access and content.
The access track is designed to bring Project 38 to the attention of President Trump and/or his senior arms control decision making advisors. To accomplish this, Project 38 will undertake the following:
Produce a 38-minute documentary film. This film, 38 Minutes, will describe the threat of nuclear war through the narrative of Hawaii’s 2018 missile alert and introduces the principal Project 38 partners and the essence of their message for President Trump. Project 38 will promote and disseminate the 38 Minutes film in a manner which maximizes exposure while focusing on gaining the attention of the desired audience.
This can include:
(a) Standard distribution techniques such as film festivals and online streaming;
(b) Showing the documentary to a live audience in Lafayette Park in Washington, DC in a manner where the screen is visible to the White House;
(c) Getting the movie shown to influential persons; and
(d) Direct outreach to the White House once sufficient attention has been drawn to the film and its mission.
The content track is the responsibility of a contemporary Team B, the competitive analysis group of outside experts commissioned by the CIA in 1976 to evaluate the existing analysis about Soviet strategic nuclear forces.
The new Team B would consist of top level individuals possessing expertise in the following areas of specialization:
(a) Policy and Politics
(b) Nuclear Threat
(c) Arms Control
(d) Missile Defense
(e) Presidential Briefing Techniques.
Team B would be responsible for preparing a 38 minute “elevator pitch” for President Trump and/or his senior policy advisors. A suggested breakdown for this briefing is provided below:
(a) Introductory remarks/political and policy issues
(b) Nuclear war threats
(c) Arms control solutions
(d) Missile defense fallacies
(e) Conclusion/closing comments
Team B would provide interview-based content for the 38 Minute film derived from the respective presentations of the constituent members.
Team B would prepare a “deliverable” in the form of a briefing book that would “stay behind” in the case of a formal presentation to the White House.
Team B would be prepared to carry out follow-on tasks if required to further the Project 38 mission objectives, especially if requested to do so by the White House.
Project 38 Execution Timeline
The 38 Minutes film should be ready for dissemination by mid-September 2025.
A Team B briefing complete with “deliverable” should be ready for delivery by October 1, 2025.
Access influence operations will commence once the film and Team B briefing are completed. The focus of geographical effort will be the Washington, DC area. Various venue options will be explored.
Outreach to targeted audiences will take place concurrently with access influence efforts.
The goal is to achieve White House access before the end of the 2025 calendar year.
Funding and Support
Project 38 represents a very aggressive solution to a very pressing issue operating on a extremely limited timetable.
To successfully implement the goals and objectives, Project 38 will require funding sufficient to the task. As such, the Project 38 team is soliciting donations that would enable work to begin starting at the end of this month, and carry the project through the end of the year.
Concluding thought:
A missile is inbound to your home. This is not a drill, and there is no escape.
If you could go back in time six months, what would you be willing to do to make sure that missile would never be launched?
And why aren’t you doing that now?
Project 38 gives you a chance to participate in an effort designed to prevent the kind of missile launch threat that terrorized the citizens of Hawaii back on January 13, 2018, and which, if nothing is done to prevent it, could terrorize you and your family in the not so distant future.
Help us change history.
Help us save America.
Help us save the world.
Please donate today.
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