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[Music] welcome to Sabi sabs podcast I’m your host Sabrina salvati my special guest

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today you’ve seen him here before is Scott Ritter he’s a former US Marine Corps intelligence officer and a former

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un special commission weapons inspector he’s also an author welcome back Scott

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thanks for having me so Scott uh we are now entering into the Trump

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Administration and I think a lot of people have questions more so I think about for policy uh that’s been a big

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one that’s been on the radar there was recent news that was announced today Trump says that Putin’s meeting is

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being set up to end the bloody mess of the Ukraine war the Kremlin said Friday

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that it welcomed the president- elect’s willingness to talk and that there would be likely progress on the subject after

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he is sworn in later this month so this is one of the big ones I think a lot of

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people have been waiting to see because Trump said that if he was in office this war with Ukraine would have never happened uh I’m I’m still a little

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skeptical about this but they have already set up a meeting and the inauguration hasn’t happened yet where

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do you think this goes from here do you think that we will see an end to the Ukraine war this year 100% um it may

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take six months it may take a little bit longer than that because there’s a lot of complexities to untangle number one

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of which is is um you know how long it takes Donald Trump to realize that

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Russia will not yield on any of the major points that this isn’t going to be a a negotiation where Trump comes in and

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and gets his way um but Trump has already he made an important statement yesterday um he he said

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that the this war was created by NATO’s

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expansion into Ukraine now I said that two years ago got banned from YouTube it was the truth but the YouTube you know

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their fact Checkers didn’t quite like that uh it’s a narrative that uh Ukraine doesn’t like it’s a narrative that the

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United States under the Biden Administration like NATO doesn’t like it the European usion doesn’t like it because it’s true this is a war that

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we’re responsible for the narrative right now is that Russia invaded tiny innocent Democrat loving Ukraine no ukra

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the truth is Ukraine has been a tool by the United States NATO and Europe to destroy Russia and it’s been a tool

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that’s been used for decades it’s not just what happened uh recently so you know Russia’s response is the old fool

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around find out kind of thing meaning you know if you want to play Big Boy games you play Big Boy prices and

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Ukraine started playing a big boy game and Russia said okay we’re now going to that level and that’s why we’re at War

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but it’s not because Russia woke up one morning and went I’m feeling my Imperial muscles um let’s make a move on Ukraine

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Russia didn’t want this war Russia did everything possible to to stop this war and Trump finally accurately because

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savy I’ve said this many many times you can’t solve a problem that you don’t first accurately Define so to bring it

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into the crisis in Ukraine you say you want to bring it into the war in Ukraine um then what is the problem why did this

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war happen What because if this is truly about the independence of poor independ uh you know Democratic uh Ukraine

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there’s one ending that we can accept but if this is about Ukraine being a tool to bring down Russia then that

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creates a completely different solution and Trump is now recognizing that the

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problem isn’t Russia the problem is NATO the problem is Ukraine and so that opens

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the door uh for a meaningful discussion there’s another element that Trump is

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going to have to address and I’m sure that’ll come up in the in the discussion is what’s the Strategic objective of the

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United States because right now under Biden Administration it’s the Strategic defeat of Russia and Russia is not going

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to entertain any negotiation that begins with the premise that America’s policy continues to be the Strategic defeat of

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Russia so Trump will have to make um another statement um that that is no

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longer our policy objective um and then I think we’re you know everything’s on

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board the com complicating factors are Ukraine and NATO um you know and and

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they’re going to have to be compelled to accept and and the way that Ukraine gets compelled is Ukraine must be defeated

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and that defeat will happen when United States shuts off the aid uh NATO is unable to step up to the plate um and

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Ukraine collapses and then you know that creates the conditions for Russia to impose its will through whatever VI

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treaty vehicle there will be um that like I said that could take up to six months um Ukraine is not going to go

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gently into that good night and neither is NATO we see them to now meeting in Ramstein for the what might be the last

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meeting of the Ramstein coordination group to send Aid to Ukraine um reports

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are saying that it’s a very uh depressed environment that everybody realizes that this is it that it’s over U that you

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know whatever they thought they were going to accomplish is not going to be accomplished because next week there’s a

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new sheriff in town and the sheriff ain’t playing this game shutting the game down but I I am optimistic that

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Trump is going to pull this one off because it’s essential that he does Trump doesn’t have a vested interest in

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Ukraine because Trump is not married to the the current um you know modeling regarding

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NATO to make NATO vital and and again to revive NATO to make it the Cornerstone

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Trump accurately points to Nato and says you’re the reason why we’re in this mess you know you’re why are you expanding

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and the moment you start to question NATO expansion you start to dismantle the the

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entire narrative that’s been created in Europe about the importance and the relevance of NATO um and Trump is doing

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that right now so that’s the end of NATO I I personally believe that NATO won’t survive Trump’s first term I think that

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Trump is out to kill NATO um and he will unplug from NATO and NATO will collapse

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rapidly um but that’s part of this peace treaty because one of the things that

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Ukraine will have to be given is some sort of security guarantees um or assurances as they’re like to be called

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in this environment because guarantee means you’re guaranteeing something and we all know that the

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1994 uh Bucharest um memorandum was assurances you know the one that Ukraine

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always says we gave up our nuclear weapons well they weren’t their nuclear weapons uh they surrendered them because

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they were obligated to do so but they always say that the West guaranteed our security Now reread the AR the the

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agreement that the West gave assurances to your security but the assurances always have caveats attached and

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unfortunately for Ukraine all of the caveats they were attached in 1994 were violated by both Ukraine the European

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Union and NATO uh which led to the current situation but there will have to be some sort of guarantees but I think

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it’s going to be Russian dictated guarantees meaning that Russia is GNA say don’t worry we got this one and you

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know who’s sympathetic to this see in the west we gave short shrift when Russia said we have legitimate National

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Security interests in in the Nations that surround us especially the former Soviet republics the near abroad as they

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like to call it and we the United States and Europe when no these are independent sovereign states you have no right to

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impose your will there’s no such thing as National interest and you don’t automatically inherit this you know who

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disagrees with that Donald Trump how do we know well he’s goingon to invade Greenland and he’s going to take over

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the Panama Canal so U we know that Donald Trump understands the concept of

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you know National Security interest when it comes to territories AB budding the United States and I think he’s going to

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be sympathetic to the argument made by Russia on in this regard especially when it comes to uh to

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Ukraine so then what happens to Ukraine and and this is I think the big

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question a lot of people have had once this is all over what does happen to

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Ukraine they already applied to to try to join NATO and they were rejected uh

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where do they what what happens to the borders and what happens to people in the

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dabas well the dabas is Russian they’re already Russian lugans and donet are

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independent republics of the Russian Federation along with koson and Zaria and that will not change Russia will die

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before that so there’s not there will be no return of territories to Ukraine Ukraine has permanently lost Crimea and

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the four territories of noo Russia new Russia including the donbas lugansk and Donetsk Ukraine has to be careful not to

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lose more and I’m concerned that Ukraine will lose more that part of this uh

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peace deal understand this Ukraine as it currently exists will not exist once this peace deal is done sininsky is

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finished there will be a new government um the Russians will dictate this government the government will required

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to be put in a a a new Constitution that Outlaws uh the political parties of

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Ukraine today there will be a period of three to five years of occupation where Russia re-educates people and and

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reforms people before elections are had to elect a new Ukrainian government that will be approved by the Russians this this is what losing a war looks like

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there will not be a Ukraine the way you know it today zalinski will either be dead or in Exile and all of his

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politicians will either be captured in prison or you know living in a think tank environment in the west uh you know

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waxing philosophically about how the West betrayed them but um there will be no Ukraine uh not the way we know it

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that’s what people don’t understand all this talk of people about freezing the conflict about you know peacekeepers all

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when Russia wins this war whether they win it at the negotiating table or on the battlefield or

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combination of of the two there won’t be a Ukraine as you currently recognize it Russia won’t accept it um it and so

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that’s the reality and I think Trump is going to go along with this wow well you said the part I think

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a lot of people need to hear because people are talking about this as though Ukraine is going to be able to move

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forward or uh they’re going to get some type of win which I think you and I talked about this a long time ago that

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like there was no way that Ukraine was going to be able to win anyway and the US government was trying to find a way to uh Russia you mentioned NATO

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and and that is something I want to discuss as well there have been many talks I mean I

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I attended a protest that said to you know dis dismantle NATO NATO’s got to

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go what happens to Nato if if like after

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this because this is something that has been in place for quite some time and how do you think other countries in the

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west will feel about that

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well let’s start with what happened to Nato with the collapse of the Soviet Union the end of the Cold War NATO lost

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its reason to exist there was literally no reason for NATO to continue but the United States uh used it as a vehicle to

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uh solidify American control not only over Western Europe but the newly independent Eastern Europe we wanted to

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expand NATO to bring these nations under our wing to prevent Russia from um using

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its past historical relationships to continue to impose its will on these nations as part of Russia’s so-called

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near abro we wanted to weaken Russia and we weaken Russia by taking away its

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former um you know allies and and and such that was what NATO expansion was

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about NATO also became a tool of not

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just European power but in Europe NATO was supposed to be about protecting Europe but became an ex

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a tool for expanding European power and they did that two ways one was to um get

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involved in cleaning up um the historical mistakes of Europe the Balkans Yugoslavia NATO was heavily

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involved in the dismemberment of Yugoslavia and the imposition of European will over uh the Balkan Nations

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um and and we saw that manifest itself in 199 9 where this defensive Alliance

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NATO engaged in an offensive war of aggression against the European nation Serbia a lot of people have forgotten

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that NATO bombed a European Capital NATO bombed a European Capital that tells you

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that NATO is fundamentally broken fundamentally broken and then NATO went

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on in 2011 and carried out a war of aggression against Libya to overthrow a regime in Libya that’s led to Absolute

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disaster there NATO helped facilitate 20 years years of you know incompetence in

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Afghanistan um and that was the overextension of NATO and it proved that

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NATO wasn’t what NATO thought it was see NATO thought it was a partner of the United States especially after 911 when

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NATO was pressured everybody says NATO stood up and and invoked Article Five no

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the United States pressured NATO into invoking Article Five because we needed the political D you know the the the

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looks the the Optics of NATO coming to us we were under attack but what was NATO’s Article 5 commitment they brought

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in some awax airplanes to fly over American territory as if we needed you

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know Luxembourg awax with a NATO symbol on it flying over America when we have

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you know it’s absurd it was symbolic and then they did something about protecting a naval BL a naval um task force to

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protect Europe from migration out of North Africa total jokes nothing it’s a

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nothing Burger um but NATO used Article 4 to go into Afghanistan that’s not

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Article 5 that’s article four they went into Afghanistan and participated in regime change operations there that have

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nothing to do with transatlantic security had everything to do with you know serving American interests and then

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we got them involved in nation building and things of that nature why is a North Atlantic defensive organization involved

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in nation building exercises in Afghanistan in a part of the world they don’t even understand and in the end

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they were betrayed by the United States and that was the the signal to Nato that you simply

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don’t matter you’re nothing you look how we abandoned and this wasn’t Trump that abandoned it is Biden and remember Biden

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is Mr ah the NATO relationship is a sacred trust Article Five it’s a sacred Duty and yet when it came to Afghanistan

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one minute we were passing around the 10 cup saying hey you guys got to fund this thing keep it up keep your mission going and in the same year just few months

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later we left NATO and went oh sorry yeah we’re out of here you’re on your own and NATO’s like

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what we just raised money we we we put a lot of political Capital into extending

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this Mission and now you’ve run and now we have to leave and it looks horrible and so nato in in August of 2021 was a a

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entity that was demoralized and in danger of collapsing and then Ukraine we

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use Ukraine to unify NATO to rejuso existence and Nat NATO becomes this

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aggressive Force working with Ukraine to help bring down Russia this defeat and

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NATO has been defeated by the way it it didn’t work is the end of NATO NATO can’t survive this uh it will begin the

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internal collapse of NATO but what will accelerate that is Donald Trump for

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instance telling nato in the after first of all that they have to leave Ukraine that there is no future of NATO and

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Ukraine that’s a huge blow to Nato who has said we you know all Stenberg and

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now ruy NATO has you know the inherent right of expand mantion that you can’t Russia doesn’t get to dictate who gets

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to join NATO or not well Russia just dictated it at the point of a gun and you lost you back down so that’s a

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problem but then the other problem comes when Trump says and America is going to be withdrawing um a lot of its support

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we need you to step up and fund this you need to go up to 5 per. what NATO countries can do that Germany can’t

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France can’t England can’t they can’t afford that and when they can’t afford it then you’re going to get political

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discussions internal to these nations about is this what we want to do and that’s the death of the European Union

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when Germany starts saying what’s good for Germany when France starts saying what’s good for France that’s the end of

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the European Union so this is killing two birds with one stone Trump is going to take down NATO and take down the

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European Union both of which he blames for getting us involved in this ridiculous exercise in Ukraine and he’s

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going to succeed um you know both of these institutions there’s an election I

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think in February 12th or so in Germany um alternative for Deutschland political

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party U might win and if they win they have said we are withdrawing from the

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European Union wow they withdraw from the that’s

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it if the thing that makes the European Union viable is German Central

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Banking and if you take Germany out of that that’s the end of the Europe that’s the end of the Euro and you’re going to

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see Nations going back to their own uh currencies and that that’s it NATO

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you’re already seen let me just give you show you how ridiculous NATO is right now Trump made some statements about

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Greenland and he said I’m not excluding the use of military force to go into GRE Greenland belongs to Denmark Denmark is

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a NATO Ally Trump is talking actively about invading and occupying the soil of

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a NATO Ally we now have the French foreign minister telling Trump that that will mean war between Europe and America

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how healthy is NATO again remind me of how healthy NATO is right now when the United States is talking about invading

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an occupying a NATO State and NATO members are talking about the potential of a war with Europe against the United

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States now they’ll never go to war against us because they can’t but my point is there is no Unity Trump is

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going to destroy NATO and the European Union because they deserve to be destroyed they stand for nothing they

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they they they both have failed name one good thing NATO has done since the Cold

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War ended you can’t name one thing Europe has done since the cold Europe is

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responsible for the destruction of Europe the the the European Union is responsible for the destruction of

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Europe uh their policies on open borders uh the immigration issue you know

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wherever you stand on immigration I mean I’m I’m personally you know sympathetic to people who are being thrown out of

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their Homeland because of you know crime and economic interest and all that but

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Europe let them in with no plan and what’s happening is you get this xenophobic re response where nations are

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starting to say Europe is responsible for for destroying our national identity

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and the Germans are going hard right on this one saying no more immigrants we’re done with European policy France is a

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disaster because of un you know unrestrained uh immigration they’ve lost control of Marseilles and other and

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other there’s parts of Paris that are out of the control of the French government because of bad immigration

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policies the United Kingdom is feeling it uh other European countries are all feeling this and what’s going to happen

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is they’re going to start looking more out for themselves than this concept of European unity and that’s the end of the

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European Union the European Union was a disaster for European States because

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under the European Union you stop thinking about being a German and you start thinking about being a European

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but what does being a European mean it’s a meaningless term Europe is a continent

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it’s not a culture the culture is Italian the culture is German the

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culture is French the culture is Danish you know that’s the culture and what the European Union was saying is that

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doesn’t matter anymore we’re now this unified entity with free borders Free Labor a pole can travel across and work

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and live anywhere they want to borders no longer me matter but European nations are now

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waking up saying borders do matter Poland has been very clear that there will not be an immigrant problem in

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Poland because they’re not going to let immigrants in that’s a complete violation of European Union policy um

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wow this European Union is going to collapse it has no chance of surviving so then that brings me to this

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point because I did notice um there were hints about this coming from president macron who’s also on his way out but uh

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he made a statement last year that he wants to know why France always has to

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follow the United States He said why do we have to follow them why can’t we make decisions based on what’s best for us

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but he was talking about Europe uh collectively he was saying like why do we have to follow the lead of the United

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States and I was like uh oh people are starting to ask that question right um so there’s that and then when you talk

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about the the EU what would that mean for foreign policy decisions because

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I’ve spoken to people like Claire Daly who was a part of the EU and she’s was very vocal to stand up on the floor in

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the EU to push back against all of these wars what does that mean now because I I

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remember when they agreed to allow the leopard tanks go into uh

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Ukraine H how does that work like if the European Union collapses what does that

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mean for foreign policy matters when it comes to a vote

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well what we go back to pre-european Union Europe where um Germany was

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Germany France was France now they had NATO that provided you know collective

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security but German foreign policy was independent um not subordinated to

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you know whatever this European thing is you go back to that and for from and

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this is why it’s attractive to Trump um you know I spent a lot of time uh studying

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leader like Putin uh Putin has been a project of mine since he came into power and I I study his words I study you know

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his history his background just to try and understand you know what he’s thinking in in the direction he’s trying

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to take Russia it’s it’s important to have that level of comprehension uh Trump people tend to be dismissive of

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trump you know they they judge him based upon superficialities uh and in many ways he’s a a character

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that lends himself to that um I mean I don’t we don’t need to get into the textual detail but we are aware of the

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NBC tape where he was on a bus talking with somebody and he made some comments about how he treats women U very crude

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comments and you know that tends to dominate our thinking process about

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Trump a very crude simple individual but

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if you want to know Trump watch The Apprentice watch The Apprentice what did

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Trump do in The Apprentice because this is Trump’s show he’s the one that you know organized it and and directed

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people are working for a you know a an objective that everybody seems to want this case it was you know a quarter of a

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million dollar salary job promoting one of Trump’s properties and they’re competing but what Trump did is he

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organized them into teams and they’d compete against each other do you understand the genius of that

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move how do you how do you control people how do you dominate people and how do you learn about

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people other than putting them in the teams and then putting them against each other and then’s watching this he got

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thats school that’s a business and then and then he and then he takes the losing

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team and he sits down and he dissects why they lost he he he compels them to you know

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think about the dynamic and he’s learning from that too this is a learning process for Trump he’s he’s not

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just educating them but he’s learning about them and then he fires one of them and then he goes back and he makes two

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new teams he starts the process all over again this is how Donald Trump thinks so

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now Trump wants to deal with Europe it’s very difficult for Trump to

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deal with individual European nations and he learned this when he was president the first time because you

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have NATO and the European Union always getting in the way whatever he wanted to do you know Nation to Nation got

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Complicated by NATO and by the European Union Trump’s perfect Europe isn’t a

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singularity but a team of Nations competing against one another and Trump

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will play Apprentice with Europe and that’s what he wants to do he wants to get Italy to compete against Germany and

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then look at the two then fire one of them and pick the other one that’s how he’s going to control Europe Europe will

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become the you know a a a more complete vassel of the United States macron was correct

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in many ways he recognized that Europe as it’s currently configured had totally subordinated itself to the United States

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but that included NATO and the European Union uh macron was talking about the European Union redefining itself as an

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independent entity European entity free of American domination but you can’t the

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European Union always grew married to the NATO concept you can’t separate the

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European Union from NATO and NATO is 100% American control that’s why macron spoke about the need to create a

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European Defense Agency you know common defense but you can’t have that and NATO

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you can’t afford to have two defense entities like that so it was always unrealistic uh you know mro rightfully

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understood the problem but never had a solution to that problem um because he

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was always married to this notion of a European Union that fundamentally is is

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unsustainable and Trump knows this and I think Trump is now going to come in and you know we we’ll see I mean the proof

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isn’t the pudding he’s not even president yet but I I believe that one of his big objectives is not only the

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dismantlement of NATO but the dismantlement of the European Union so that he can play Apprentice with Europe

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and maybe he’ll do a new TV show called a you know Apprentice Europe we’ll

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see no this is all this is all really interesting um I did talk about his

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remarks about Greenland to me it’s just I I don’t think that’s going to happen um I did hear from uh a representative

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from Greenland she was on the news recently and she said the majority of people in Greenland do not want this to

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happen there’s also this this piece that a lot of people are leaving out you know China does have investments in Greenland

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and I feel like that’s the real reason why he wants to consume Greenland and

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nobody’s asking the question about what happens to the benefits of the people that live in Greenland so for example they have universal healthcare in

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Greenland uh I from what I understand I think Denmark pays for that so my question is like again nobody’s asking

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these questions like if he we were to acquire Greenland what does that mean for the benefits of the people in

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Greenland is the US or taxpayers are we gonna have to pay the health care for people in Greenland so again I I don’t

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think that’s that’s going to happen but people need to start asking those questions and ask like what is this really about and like what matters the

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most which is that it seems like regardless of the political party both parties really want to go after China

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and they want to uh I think suppress China’s economic gains and same thing

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with the Panama Canal what did they say he said why is the Panama Canal you know doing business with China but Panama can

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decide to do what it wants and that’s that’s another thing so when I hear him make these statements that he doesn’t

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rule out military force but he hopes it doesn’t come to that with Panama I’m like what what is happening like what

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like let me let me let me push back just a little bit I mean I I support your your heart on this one because it’s

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horrible to think of the United States invading and occupying Greenland or Panama Canal I think he’s going to do it

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um I think it’s going to happen very soon you really think so 100% first of

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all with Panama we have a neutrality treaty and it just dependent upon how the United States deter you know interprets Panama’s violation of

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neutrality uh Trump is making a case I disagree with the case that China’s control of the ports but you know they

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have Hong Kong based management companies in there his concern is that

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with China in control of Port operations if the Chinese Communist party ever gave the order that these Chinese companies

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could shut down the Panama Canal and that’s you know 70% of American Container traffic goes through the

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Panama Canal 40% of all of our shipping goes through the Panama Canal and Trump is making the case that that we can’t

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give China that option and so to prevent China from ever being able to do this hypothetical which is improbable to

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begin with uh Trump is going to he will order the US military to invade and occupy the Panama Canal sighing a

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violation of the neutrality treaty and because nobody the United States is not held accountable to any standard of

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international law we’ll get away with it and Panama won’t resist because Panama knows what happened in 1989 when just

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cause came in and what we did to Panama to get rid of norga um and I I just

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think we’re in that world right now and on Greenland there’s 44 th000 people in Greenland um I think if we got into a

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bidding war with Denmark we will win that bidding war and we will get the Greenland population to say that they

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want independence uh that there will be a referendum uh and that the United States will take over uh control of the

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security of Greenland until which time that referendum is held and there’s nothing Denmark can do about it and

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Trump knows this um we already occupy Greenland we have American troops on the

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ground in Greenland um and if the D Danish government makes any effort to interfere with that we will site

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National Security interests and we will send more troops in there I think Trump is totally committed to this and there’s

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nothing anybody can do to stop it nothing that’s the sad thing Denmark has an army of 17,000 what are they gonna do

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is France really gonna go to war against the United States to prevent America from occupying territory it already

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occupies in 44,000 I think the United States could come up with a uh with an

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agreement that um that provides for all the services over a period time that the

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Dan that the the citizens of Denmark have I’m just saying that um I I think

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Trump is dead serious on this one and here’s the reason why it’s not about you know you know China has two uh

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concessions mining concessions but they’re not they’re not being developed China wanted to do something with them

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they’ve had some problems uh Wayne the problem is the geography of Greenland

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and the Eng Global the climate change which is thawing the arctic ice cap and

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making Transportation along the Northwest Passage suddenly viable and opening up territories for uh you know

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mineral exploitation there’s a lot of wealth up there Russia has the advantage right now in terms of you know how it’s

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projected its influence in the region Russia put a flag on the North Pole saying that it belongs to us um you know

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we challenge that but Russia’s asserting itself already and Russia is also the

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dominant power in the area because of its U Icebreaker Fleet I mean no nation has ice breakers

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like Russia so the only nation right now that can make Northwest Passage viable consistently is Russia China wants to

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assert it’s it’s talking about creating the You Know Arctic Silk Road it wants to come up and use these sea Lanes is

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part of their um you know their their their supply chain dominance um and

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that’s why Trump when you talk about green he’s talking about shipping we got Chinese shipping shipping shipping shipping shipping he doesn’t want that

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and the best way for him to control that is to make Greenland the United States now projecting American territorial

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interests into these very Waters where the United States can now control shipping and control a lot of the

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economic development taking place that’s what he wants he views China moving into the Arctic as an existential threat to

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the United States I’m not agreeing with all of his analysis I’m saying that’s how he’s thinking and therefore it’s a

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100% certainty that he’s going to take over Greenland that’s a 100% but that’s just

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more intervention and and that’s more intervention well he’s trying to create Fortress America that’s what he’s trying

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to do wait till you see what he do one thing we’re not talking about is Peru because the Chinese aren’t stupid

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they’re actually some of the savviest people out there um on when it comes to global economy they recognize their own

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vulnerability in the Panama Canal I mean you know Trump is paranoid about China shutting down the Panama Canal but the

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Chinese are very aware of the fact the United States can shut down the Panama Canal anytime it wants to um and now you

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know China who is dependent upon the flow of shipping and stuff you know sees disruptions so the chines gone in and

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built a port facility in Peru a multi-billion dollar Port facility that’s actually just opened up I think

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they just last month uh the Chinese president was there so was Biden for a different thing but they opened up the

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port and the Chinese are now in there building rail Lin connectivity from this port into Brazil into Ecuador into the

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neighboring countries so that they can achieve the goal because Brazil is an

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Atlantic country Brazil doesn’t have Pacific interface but China is going to

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land in Peru and then move into Brazil and bypass the need to go through the Panama Canal and then the the Caribbean

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which is an American controlled Lake you know to work their way down the coast they’re just going to land in Peru and

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shoot their stuff over by rail that’s a threat I can guarantee you by the time

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the Trump Administration has Consolidated itself in Greenland and in Panama that Trump is going to say that

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that Port um can’t be Chinese controlled and he’s going to tell the

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peruvians that they have to uh they have to turn control of the port over to the United States and that’s part of Amica

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he’s trying to create Fortress America he’s trying to create this blob of land

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that um is American dominated in and the Chinese won’t be allowed in there and

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that’s from Greenland and I believe it’s going to go down to Peru you know Argentina’s already on board Watch What

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Happens this year interesting year coming up brics is chaired by Brazil and

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of course brics is the ultimate geopolitical Challenge to the United States rules based International order

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Etc watch the pressure that’s put on uh the the Brazilian leadership the

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Brazilian government by the United States uh to um curtail uh bricks

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I mean already uh under under you know under under the the Brazilian leadership

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um Indonesia has become a full partner do you understand what that means one of the most populous lands in the world one

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of the most strategic lands in the world in the in the Pacific uh whose neutrality we always assumed would be

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there that’s why there are such a big player in the G20 in the ason uh group

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Indonesia’s joined bricks Malaysia and Thailand are applying to be become bricks members the Philippines thinking

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that they’re part of this Aon community that the United States is capping and everybody supporting one another is

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watching these major Powers flee watch what the Philippines do in the next couple years I bet you they put

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an application to Bricks too this is crippling to United States crippling to the United States and so you know we

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can’t just give from Trump’s world you can’t just give the Pacific to China without protecting your own interest if

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you give the Pacific to China and you give them this port in Peru and they’re able to project into South

36:32

America they’re defeating the United States and so Trump I believe is going to secure Greenland secure the Panama

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Canal make a move on Peru work to overthrow um the sentiment in Brazil maybe to get Brazil out of bricks and uh

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you know solidify relations with Argentina and make South America part of Fortress America that’s that that’s I

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think his strategic thinking right now he usews China as the number one threat to the United States China as we speak

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the Chinese foreign minister is doing his annual tour in Africa um when was you

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know China is is taking over Africa economically uh so Trump’s looking at

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the world map Pacific is going to China Africa’s going to China Europe’s in

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total chaos Russia’s aligning with China and if you sit back and go

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business as usual Greenland now becomes a base for China to project into into the Arctic sea and Peru becomes a base

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for China to expand into Brazil and all that and that just leaves America

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surrounded and that’s something Trump doesn’t want so when Trump says that Greenland is essential to the National

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Security of the United States he believes it um and that’s why I I take

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him at his word when he says it’s going to be in American territory wow wow wow this is crazy I

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want it’s crazy isn’t it I’m gonna get I just want to say this because what’s going to happen savy it always happens

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people listen to this and they think that I want this to happen because I’m doing an assessment they go oh Ritter’s

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defending Trump I’m not I’m against all of this this runs counter to everything I believe in international law uh

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dialogue debate this is a very confrontational Pro policy which and I’m finishing up an article right now I

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believe Dooms us to fail because I do believe we will be successful in creating Fortress America but then the

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problem is that Fortress America has to be able to viably integrate into a world

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by creating a fortress America you create a trap you trap yourself and that’s I think that’s what

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Trump is doing he doesn’t believe it he thinks he’s building a foundation upon which we can project but he’s trapping

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himself into a world now where every other interest is going to be the rest of the world and we’re not going to be

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able to hold on to South America because the history of Empires always show that

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the conquered people the occup people rise up and we’re going to watch all the reversals and it’s going to be a

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disaster for America so the I guess the sparkle in my eyes I’m talking about it

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is just because it’s fascinating from a you know just an observer standpoint but

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I don’t support what Trump’s doing I think it’s disastrous for the world I think it’s disastrous for America but

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you made a comment where you said you don’t believe that he’s going to take GRE I don’t support him taking GRE but I

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believe he’s going to do it I believe 100% that he’s going to do it because it’s it it melds into his vision of this

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Fortress make America great again means expanding American Empire to control

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sort of like a new Monroe Doctrine to control the areas around us wow well crazier things um

39:45

domestically as well because I’m I’m sure we all heard about this but these two stories in particular that I covered

39:52

it was very alarming to me the New Orleans attack attacker discussed plans to kill en joined Isis in chilling

39:59

recordings of course this is coming from uh CNN that’s the uh suspect of the New

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Orleans attack there and then within 24 hours there was this cyber truck

40:11

explosion in Las Vegas and they claimed that the suspect was was Matthew lurger

40:17

although the Las Vegas uh police earlier on said they couldn’t confirm that the body that was found in that truck was

40:24

him uh I think later on they have made that confirmation these two particular stories right at

40:30

the start of the New Year to me it just seem a little too convenient and I want to hear your take on this because when I

40:37

first heard about the New Orleans attack the first thing I’m hearing from the news is that he had a Isis flag and uh

40:44

the woman from the New York Post just walks through his uh his home uh with no police uh walks through a crime scene no

40:51

gloves on her hand or anything and just points to oh look and there’s the Quran which is left open uh which has been

40:58

explained to me by Muslim friends that you never leave the Quran open if you’re not you know praying so there’s that uh

41:06

and then again within 24 hours the Cyber truck explosion outside of the Trump

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Tower and the so-called Manifesto uh that he has supposedly Left

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Behind What’s Happening Here both of these guys were former military does the

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military have anything to do with this do you think that maybe there could be some some trauma here or some

41:28

psychological effect after their time in the military do you feel that uh a greater Source maybe behind all this a

41:35

lot of people are pointing fingers at Israel it seems a little too convenient to me but what’s your

41:41

take yeah I I I to be hon I don’t know enough to straight out say Israel’s not

41:47

behind us but my gut says Israel’s not behind us um I’m I’m the believer in you

41:53

know aam’s Razer um the most logical explanation is probably the explan the

41:59

more you have to get into conspiracy to explain something um the the more

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difficult I have you know buying into it um the easiest one for me to get into is

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the special forces Soldier um he he comes from a community and you know here

42:19

I’m going to get in a lot of trouble but that’s okay what the hell I I get in trouble all the time um you know the the

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ction process to be a special forces Soldier is a very um substantive one

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very elite one he’s clearly physically fit um but they also run you through various psychological uh tests to find

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out you know your ability to withstand stress and um and to you know survive

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under stress um you know the missions he he was assigned to operate he was a very highly trained special operator um with

42:52

very special skill sets and um but here’s the problem just like the Navy

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Seals um have corrupted themselves by creating a culture that um attracts

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psychopaths straightup psychopaths you just have to take a look at the the the seal if you remember the I think a book

43:13

was written about him called Alpha Eddie um I can’t remember his last name right now um but you know he was a murderer a

43:20

psychopath and the seals allowed this to happen and and fostered it continued to promote him and allowed him to deploy

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where he murdered people he’s a murderer um but that’s the the sickness of the

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Navy Seals is that they they’ve created a culture that allows this kind of sickness to thrive and I think the the

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Special Forces Community has brought in a a culture of con of

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conspiracy theorists people who are very intelligent but they are also very uh

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politically constrained very conern conservative and

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um and if not managed properly could get could allow their brains to get thrown

44:05

into things you know look at what this guy wrote about now originally when his Manifesto came out or this email came out um some people tried to say it’s not

44:14

real but the FBI come out and said no he wrote it he wrote this so that tells you

44:19

everything because this is not written by a professional special forces guy this is written by a guy who’s lost his

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mind a guy who has become so paranoid um that he’s just seeing things and imagining

44:32

things and and all this stuff because not too much of that is reality based um

44:38

you know he didn’t have access to the programs that he’s talking about here you know he’s talking about you know alien spacecraft and UFOs and all this

44:45

stuff he didn’t have access to any of that um some of that didn’t even exist it’s a part of his mind when you subject

44:53

people when you create this this tool because special for forces operator is a tool you create this tool um you have to

45:01

be careful because you can break this tool you can send it you can use it so much that it breaks and you can subject

45:09

it to so much pressure the pressures that this this this operator and his

45:15

fellow operators are under is something that most Americans can’t comprehend I think he broke I think the guy went

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insane um and in the end he he believed in what he was that that that what what

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he was imagining was real and he tragically took his life in a in an act

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outside of Trump Tower that um that that’s what I think happened I don’t see any big conspiracy you know the

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connectivity between the military is Fort Bragg is home to a lot of elite units a lot of secrecy a lot of

45:47

conspiracy taking place so he lives a conspiratorial life I mean heck one of his jobs he’s trained to be what they

45:53

call jedberg that’s a guy who parachutes behind lines and works with um

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indigenous peoples to create U you know resistance groups Guerilla Warfare um

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you know he lives a fantasy novel life um and I’m sure he has been called upon

46:09

to do programs that are special access programs that are highly classified but he’ll only get it on a need to know

46:15

basis he’ll only get to the you know get the Glimpse but he won’t understand the whole thing and I think his mind just he

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just snapped under the pressure of what was going on I think he felt betrayal in Ukraine he was involved in the training

46:28

of Ukrainian Special Forces uh people I just think he broke that’s that’s my take on it that’s a very shallow take

46:35

because I don’t claim to have in-depth knowledge of all this but when I look at who he was the training he had and what

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he became and this Manifesto which has been seen as written by him he he he

46:49

went off the rails he’s that Manifesto could not have been written by a fully

46:56

functional special forces operator that Manifesto was written by a a mentally ill man um that’s how I take now the um

47:04

the New Orleans attacker you know here’s the tough part Isis has said that people

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can claim to be Isis simply by making that declaration so if this was an ISIS

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attack do you remember there was a shooting in um San Bernardino California

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where a um h husband and wife team um went to a party um and and shot it up

47:32

and you know end up getting killed in a shootout and all that well they I believe made a video where they they

47:39

declared that they’re because that’s the key thing is you have to declare that you are you take the Creed and and you

47:44

make the statement and you become Isis and then Isis says oh yeah that’s one of us um you don’t fly the Isis flag upside

47:52

down which he did in his truck I mean um and where’s the video I mean if he had

47:58

all this preparation Quran open and all this stuff where’s the video where he’s taking the I I forget the now so I’m not

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going to embarrass myself I think I know what the term is but there’s you know when you take the Creed um and and you

48:09

know there’s only you know one God name that you know and you basically now

48:15

Isis hasn’t even taken a claim for this Isis isn’t saying yeah this is one of ours you know it’s there’s just a

48:22

speculation so what happened here why did this guy do this uh yes he was in Fort Bragg um you know he was a Muslim

48:30

but I don’t see the same um

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deployment scheme or job related scheme that would put the pressures on him he

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seemed to make the transition to civilian life quite well you saw the video where he’s out there doing the

48:47

promotion for his business and all that that’s not a that’s a r it looks like a rational player so there’s something

48:53

here that doesn’t make any sense I don’t know how to wrap up this New Orleans uh thing I I I I have trouble trying to you

49:00

know put it into its proper box because there’s so much about this doesn’t make

49:06

why did the Fox news reporter get access to his why wasn’t she arrested she contaminated a crime scene what was the

49:14

purpose of that why was she allowed to go in there and and and and and create

49:19

narratives that cannot go to trial and that’s why I say and and

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that’s why I kind of pointed fingers at Israel I was like gee I wonder if mad is behind this because that this one could

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be because this one I can’t answer the the the the tragic death of the Special Forces operator I think that’s just a

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case of a look there’s stuff that happens in Fort Brag that Fort Brag doesn’t want us to talk about Delta

49:45

Force operatives some of the most highly trained men in the world who are trained to you know operate covertly and and do

49:52

you know extreme things come back and and they’re bored you know what they do when they get bored rob

49:57

banks because they’re bored and there was Delta Force operators that go out and rob banks uh you know what else they

50:04

do when they get bored they murder their wives they beat them to death they abuse their spouses they don’t want you to

50:09

talk about this these are fundamentally broken people because of what we’ve done to them we’ve sent them abroad we’ve

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trained them we break them we come back and we don’t we don’t fix them and they

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just they break Fort Brag is a is a cesspool of um of of human tragedy that

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comes from these secret communities people who are taken to the breaking point they break we don’t fix them we

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pretend to fix them we bring them back we plug them back in um and and and then

50:38

bad things happen and Fort Brag is full of bad things happening and I think this is one of those bad things that happened

50:44

because of the the culture of Fort Brag or as they call I think today it’s called Fort Liberty I don’t know what

50:49

they the new name is but um I can’t make the same assessment of this this New

50:56

Orleans person it’s just it’s too weird what happened here the um I mean you

51:01

know the FBI why why didn’t they call it a terrorist act early on you know what

51:07

what kind of politics game is being played there see there’s a lot of politics involved in this so there’s

51:14

there’s something else going on in New Orleans than than that meets the eye that’s that’s where I can leave it I

51:19

don’t know enough but the fact that this lady was able to gain access to this house and isn’t under arrest and you

51:26

know being charged uh says everything because it says that nothing you saw in there was real that that was literally a

51:32

pan Village put up there to create public perception this is all about shaping public perception which means

51:38

it’s propaganda and since when do we do something in propaganda that kills is it

51:43

13 or 15 I don’t know how many the the final death count um out of New Orleans

51:49

is but you know this is human tragedy this is this man murdered you know more than a dozen people injured others

51:57

um this isn’t you know some propaganda game where you’re just manipulating information people died I want to know

52:04

why they died why he went behind the car I mean why he got the will be of a car

52:09

and drove it where he did why did he get out and engage because it’s suicide by cop he decided to go out suicide by cop

52:16

he started to engage police officers in a firefight that he wasn’t going to win

52:21

why did he do this what is the reason and the answers may have laid rested in

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his apartment but not anymore because you can’t trust anything that you saw on that video it’s not usable in the court

52:33

of law wow wow this is all crazy Scott you

52:39

have an event I do want to make sure we get to discuss this you have an event uh

52:44

that’s coming up it says Scott Ritter and Ania K

52:50

uh yeah Scott Ritter uh covering Ukraine Scott Ritter interviews Through The Eyes

52:55

of uh Ania K and it looks like it says dinner discussion and book signing I

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want to talk a little bit about this okay well covering Ukraine is a book that uh I published last year um and Ana

53:09

K is the U is the name of the of the the co-author she’s a podcaster from Poland

53:15

who does a wonderful podcast called Through The Eyes of Ana k um and when

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the Ukraine conflict started she reached out and uh we began to do interviews on a regular basis

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and I was approached by my uh publisher uh to to to do a book uh about Ukraine

53:33

um and I was struggling about the best way to to do that on a timely fashion I I was concerned about you know writing

53:41

something from scratch only to have the situation changed and I was right I mean the the situation changed uh

53:46

dramatically and you don’t want to commit a book that then no longer has relevance um but I looked at the

53:52

interviews that she and I did and I said you know there’s a book here if we go into these interviews and we take key

53:58

passages from the interviews and transcribe them and put them together we we create a compelling narrative that

54:04

takes the reader from how this war started why it started you know and then how it developed and where we are today

54:10

on the eve of trump becoming president it’s a slim volume 120 pages but you can read it that quick but you’ll have to

54:17

reread it and reread it because it’s a stock full of you know Shock full of information um so it’s a good book and

54:23

um ANUK of course isn’t in the United States so I’ve gone out and done a couple book events about this but you

54:30

know it’s that it’s that’s from my perspective we’re going to bring her to the United States she arrives on Tuesday

54:37

and um we’re going to do these three events we’re going to go to the Bronx on the 15th um you can go to Scott r.com

54:44

and and and and get that information uh it’s a ticketed event what I mean by that is when you come you’re going to get a dinner it’s an Italian restaurant

54:51

you get a dinner you get the book as part of the price of the ticket and then there’s a little bit of overhead because

54:56

we gotta somehow pay for the airline and the hotels and all this stuff but look you’re gon to get a chance to see

55:03

collaborators and talk about the process of collaborating on uh this this project

55:09

what what went into it it’s going to be a fascinating opportunity to get an Insight not only into the subject of Ukraine but the you know the process

55:17

ease of collaboration on a topic of this sensitivity and complexity then on the

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19th we’ll be in Washington DC at bus boys and Poets which is a well-known venue will be at their 14th and v um

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Flagship location we’ll be doing a a similar um event um and then on the 21st

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we go to pipy New York um home of H farmers and chefs that’s a wonderful restaurant um I’ve done a book event

55:44

there in the past U again it’s a ticketed event you’re going to get uh one one of the best meals possible this

55:50

the the the owner and Chef John Lasik is is a fantastic man he he’s put together a a menu you’ll see the menu if you go

55:57

to the website um again you’ll get a great dinner in a great venue you’ll get

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the book as price a ticket and you’ll get to um you know again watch an and I

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discuss this and ask questions of us both that’s a key element of all three things but it’s a short book tour but

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it’s an opportunity to bring ANUK K to the United States um and introduce her to an American audience so um if people

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are interested in Ukraine and interested in supporting uh my work and the work of ANUK uh please come to um one of these

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events if you’re able to that’s so awesome um that’s cool so January 15th

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the Bronx January 19th DC and January 21st pipy New York and you can go to

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Scott r.com for more information about that that’s pretty awesome Scott um that

56:45

you guys were able to to get her here uh often times uh both authors aren’t aren’t present well we um you know we’ve

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we’ve done fundraising over the years to to do projects um and we’ve done a lot

56:59

of projects this year we we did a big one in November at the national Press Club um we did another project in New

57:06

York City I worked with Gerald Cante in September so we’ve done and we raised

57:11

money to to do that U at the end of the year any money we don’t spend um becomes

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taxable uh you know if you don’t spend it then it becomes income and you you pay taxes and we didn’t raise that money

57:25

to make it income we rais that money to have a that you know to to to do things

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and so we said why don’t we bring on to to the United States uh we have the

57:36

means to do that um and we’re going to lose money on this there’s there’s no doubt about this is not a money making

57:42

ven you know Venture this is about our mission of helping uh Foster the

57:48

acquisition of knowledge and information by a broader audience and it’s absolutely a unique opportunity to get

57:55

both authors together in one place and so we we had the means to do it and uh she had the availability and so we we

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made it happen and we we’ve just been blessed by a Confluence of uh opportunity and means and uh we’re going

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to make it happen and we will continue to do projects throughout the year uh to to raise money and do you know valuable

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valuable projects such as this awesome Scott Ritter thank you so much for your time thanks for having me

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