GAZA: hiltzaileen eta esperantzaren artean (5)

Azken bolada honetan ikusi dugunez (Israel, AEB eta NATO zale estatu guztiak errudun, Palestinaren genozidioan izeneko sarreretan), onik, deus gutxi espero daiteke NATO-ko estatu kide guztietatik…

Guk GAZA segituko dugu aipatzen.

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USA and EU Are DESTROYING Their Own Order! | Prof. Dr. Alfred De Zayas (Ex-UN Official)

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2Supi7tUD8)

[Part 1 of 2] Today I got with me an extraordinary scholar, thinker, and activist with many years of experience in the UN system, especially in the field of Human Rights. I’m talking to Dr. Dr. Alfred de Zayas, a Professor at the Geneva School of Diplomacy, who used to work as a senior lawyer in the Office of the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights and later became the first UN Independent Expert on International Order, serving in that capacity from 2012 to 2018.

Part 2:    • Ukraine War EXPOSES 30 Years Of Weste…  

Born in Cuba, Dr. de Zayas holds a Doctorate in Jurisprudence from Harvard Law School and a PhD in modern history from the German University of Göttingen.

Dr. de Zayas is also a member of the Geneva International Peace Research Institute where he and his team are currently working on a legal case against Ursula v.d.L., Charles Michel, and Josep Borrell.

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they’re going to put it aside and they’re not going to act on it and we have an information war going on if you

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want to have uh things move in international law you have to have a

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movement you have to have uh people riled up uh at what is happening and

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that’s what of course we see today in the uh University campuses that students

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who see it on television that genocide is actually happening before their eyes they are protesting but uh the United

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Nations and the international court of justice should help them with

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provisional measur should have speak clear language and say this is genocide

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and nothing

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less hello everybody this is Pascal from neutrality studies and today I got with me an extraordinary scholar thinker and

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activist with many years of experience in the UN system especially in the field of Human Rights I’m talking to Dr Dr

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Alfred desas a professor at the Geneva School of diplomacy who used to work as a senior lawyer in the office of the UN

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High Commissioner for human rights and later became the first un independent expert on International order serving in

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that capacity from 2012 to 2018 born in Cuba Dr desas holds a doctorate in Juris

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Prudence from Harvard Law School and a PhD in modern history from the German University of gutan Dr desas is also a

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member of the Geneva International Peace Research Institute where he and his team are currently working on a legal case

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against urela under lion Charles Michelle and Joseph borell it is an extraordinary privilege of talking to

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you Professor desas so thank you very much for coming online thank you Pascal for inviting me

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and as I say I think we are both uh Swiss citizens I’m very proud to be a

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Swiss citizen since uh 2017 [Music] uh my wife originally Dutch she’s also a

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Swiss citizen and she’s actually a coner Municipal here in so we’re actually

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quite well integrated in Switzerland and we believe in direct democracy which is

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what seems to be lost in the world and at least we haven’t missed a single

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referendum in the seven years that we have been citizens and I wish we had

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referenda in the United States I wish we had referenda uh in uh Germany and in

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France and in United Kingdom because ask the people do you want peace or War you

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know that the people want peace it’s the governments and the elites but we we we

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know that the elites are scared of that and you know in Switzerland we we can prove time and again that people vote

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differently from what the national government would actually want and we keep doing that I just I’m involved into

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this in this referendum for more neutrality and we have good hopes of actually turning things around so we and

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the government listens to that I wonder other countries don’t want to do that which is why I keep saying the United States Germany they don’t have very good

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democracies they have like not democracies period we’re oligarchies and

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there’s the revolving door I mean you are member of government when you’re

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voted out you go into a think tank and you get a huge salary like uh uh

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Victoria newand and then you come back into government and you’re not

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accountable uh to your electorate you’re not accountable uh to the people you’re

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accountable to those who finance your campaign and the campaigns in the United States go into the millions and millions

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and millions of dollars so that uh unless you have a sponsor in the military industrial Financial complex uh

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you don’t get elected so I mean there’s no one there’s very very few uh

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congressmen and Congress women who are independent I mean they are as I say

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responsible to the Ron loid Martin boing uh the

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pharmaceutical industry which has enormous lobbies I mean the lobbies have completely destroyed uh democracy I mean

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uh the United States is a disgrace there is a breakdown in the rule of law in the

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United States domestically and internationally because we don’t respect international law at all and uh our

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foreign minister you know I’m also an American citizen our foreign minister Anthony blinkin uh dares talk about

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rules based International order but we do have it it’s the United Nations Charter the problem is that the

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United States does not want to respect the UN Charter does not act according to

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the letter and the Spirit uh of the charter but you have questions no let’s

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go there and let’s start with this one first actually with human rights international law and and what’s currently going on I talked on this

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program to John dugar uh about a year ago uh who used to be the special

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reporter on human rights in Palestine and who who is an international law expert and he wrote the first kind of uh

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comprehensive piece on why the hum the international um the the the

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rights-based international order is is not at all an international law concept

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I think you would subscribe to that very much why is it that at the moment the West the West is tearing down the

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international law institutions it has been building up for more than 100 years

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why well we have been tearing down uh the most

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fundamental general principles of law we have given up on good faith on

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keeping your word uh obviously what uh

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Bill Clinton did to uh the Russians when

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he ignored uh The Binding oral agreements between uh President George

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HW Bush and gorbachov and our secretary of state James Baker I

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mean in international law uh for it to function uh you you

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cannot just simply apply it alak cart you apply it today this way tomorrow

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that way uh you cannot uh uh give your word as a um

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uh uh head of state or as a foreign minister uh and then ignore it tomorrow

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because then everything is built on trust when there’s no more

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trust uh then you don’t have and Order uh you have the jungle and that’s the

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direction that we are going and uh um we

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seem to uh uh have a narrative uh we

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give lip service uh to Human Rights Etc but we

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violate them uh consistently and the problem is that uh we’re giving a very

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bad example of to new democracies or new States in

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Latin America and Africa and Asia so they’re not blind they’re not stupid if

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they see that the United States uh breaks international law uh with

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impunity they figure if they do it we can do it too and uh the old shall we

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say admiration that existed uh for the United States uh as a beacon uh of

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international law and of Human Rights uh that has lost its luster uh nobody

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believes that narrative anymore in Latin America or in Africa on Asia but

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Washington is not quite aware of it yet I mean we keep living in this U

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delusion that uh people still think that we are the leaders and we have lost that

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leadership for our own fault yeah yeah but you know the history of Human Rights

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and human rights laws the history of breaking those laws right and and and the constant struggle to trying to to

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create some form of of uh institutions or mechanisms that help amarate the

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horrible situation right and one of the things one of the step forward really was the the uh the creation of the ICC

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back in 2002 the Rome statute you know when there was a lot of hope that now you can push this thing forward and in

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the last 10 days we have seen this amazing unprecedented uh moment when when there

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was suddenly IC in in in in the spotlight and Netanyahu made a little Twitter video saying like oh they want

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to they they want to um issue arrest warrants and 12 senators in the US write

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a threatening letter that we will retaliate if you do that and I mean the

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ICC has been politicized before and maybe you can explain to us why the ICC is so politicized as opposed to the icj

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which is a little bit more uh uh independent maybe we could talk about that but this is unprecedented this

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attack on on an international court that just a year ago one and a half years ago

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was so praised for actually uh issuing arrest warrants against Vladimir Putin right so this is such a this is such a a

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cognitive dissonance that hurts so badly can you talk about that it is Shameless

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but of course we are Shameless in the United States I mean it’s um there are a

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handful of great professors of international law and professors of international relations you know like uh

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Richard folk and Jeffrey saaks and John mimer Etc uh but there most of them uh

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are careerists and most of them are accommodated to power and they know that

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if they want uh they aspire to anything higher uh they have to play the game so

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that has corrupted uh the system back 40 years ago I was writing uh articles

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about the possibility of international criminal court and I was professor in

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Chicago and together with Professor Sharif basuni at the deole University

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and we wrote a a book together uh on human rights in the uh administration of

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Criminal Justice and we were pushing for a um an international criminal court uh

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basuni was basically the drafter of the first statute of the international

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criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia uh and um uh he believed very

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much in the ICC he passed away about five years ago I think it would be deeply deeply hurt and deeply

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disappointed uh seeing what came off of it uh I mean it’s not just now uh that

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uh the United States senators and others are threatening the IC back uh uh seven

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years ago uh Trump uh threatened uh the then uh prosecutor uh Fatu Ben suda uh

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and uh actually imposed sanctions on her and her team because uh she dared to

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investigate into NATO crimes and crimes against human in

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Afghanistan and the first thing that the successor of Fuda did Kim Khan is to

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discontinue the investigation into uh American and NATO crimes in Afghanistan

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but continue the um uh investigations about Taliban uh war crimes now uh the

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president has been set uh by the international criminal uh court that a

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sitting Head of State uh the first one was uh Al Bashir

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of uh Sudan uh can actually be indicted

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that actually follows article 27 uh of the

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statute of the international criminal court the statute of Rome and so there’s

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no more immunity uh since in the past according to judgments of the international court of justice take the

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Judgment in um Congo against Belgium Judgment of 2002 quite clearly you know

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a sitting head of state has total immunity you cannot indict him that changed with the statute of Rome and uh

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so Al Bashir of Sudan then Putin so now if the court fails to issue

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an indictment against President hok or against uh netan or against uh avor

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liberman and all the others who have actually expressed genocidal intent with

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regard uh to the uh Gaza uh population uh then the court has lost

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whatever little credibility it already had I see the possibility of an a

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stampede of countries leaving the statute of Rome I mean this almost

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happened uh back uh in 2015 when Al Bashir uh went to uh a

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meeting uh of the African Union in South Africa and South Africa did not arrest

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him and did not deliver him to the ICC so the ICC got you know very angry and

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they started a case against the South South Africans and in the end they more or less discreetly left it because

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several States in Africa had already said okay if that’s the way you’re playing the game goodbye and uh if the

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court now fails to issue a uh an arrest warrant in a case

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as clear as this one I mean this is far clearer and far worse than what was

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accused uh what Putin was accused of uh so that uh uh the court uh would of

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course the United States would protest and they would impose sanctions they impose um you know lateral course and

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measures on everybody you know onethird of the population of the world is

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suffering unilateral for of measures uh from the US so I mean that it it would not be surprising but the United States

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is in open Rebellion against uh international law that is what we are

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witnessing can you help me for a moment the if we compare the ICC to the icj in

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the icj the process is that a member country needs to drag another country in front of the court and then you have a

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1517 judge panel that will weigh everything and the evidence and d d and in the IC how does it work why is the

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prosecutor General so powerful in deciding what the court does and what not can members not initiate things against each other well members

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certainly can and members have I mean certainly it’s not just Motu proprio

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that Karim Khan uh starts a case I mean he’s been pushed by uh Algeria and by

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jibuti Etc to indict netan what I would like to see is an avalanche of countries

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states parties to the uh statute of Rome to uh demand of the court to indict all

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of these people and uh to act quickly

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because one of the shall we say practices uh both of the ICC and of the

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icj is to drag their feet when they’re scared of the political consequences uh

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of a particular case they will not decide on it and they have too much

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discretion actually and uh they are playing the game now the uh IC as I said

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is very much corrupted I explained that in a chapter of my book uh the uh the

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human rights industry something that worries me a great deal because I do believe in international law I do

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believe in the necessity of international law the necessity of the United Nations if we didn’t have a

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United Nations we would have to found one if we didn’t have a Human Rights

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Council we would have to establish one uh it’s better to have rules even if the

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rules are broken than to have no rules at all uh on the other other hand it is

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possible to reform the system it is possible to um impose shall we say uh a

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commitment of all states to play by the rules and to have consequences if you

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don’t uh but the international court of justice uh is not above criticism uh I

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know several of the judges personally I’ve been actually on very friendly terms uh with many judges over the years

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uh and without a doubt uh it is not just a

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Judicial organ it is a political organ uh it is

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inconceivable that uh the United States would nominate an

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independent judge through the court they’re going to nominate that they have always om nominated um uh judges who

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will tow the line but in her last ruling on on Israel the American judge actually

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was fairly un squarely on the side of those who said provisional measures on Israel well but they did not issue a

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provisional measure ordering a ceas fire yeah that was uh of course it was a

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compromise I mean in uh a collegial body there’s always um shall we say horse

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trading and uh they don’t go as far as they could in cases that demanded and

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this case demanded it uh I was pleased uh with the first set of six uh

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provisional measures and with a second set of provisional measures because there were two 10 26 of January 105 uh

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of March which Israel has completely ignored and violated with impunity because the United States continues

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issuing the voto The veto uh in the security Council to Shield uh Israel uh

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from uh criticism but the essential problem with the international court of justice I mean I personally know the

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Japanese member I personally know the German member uh I have known in the past uh the members from um Jordan and

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uh from um um India and from China as a

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case may be the current uh composition is very Pro Western is very heavily uh

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pro-western you have an Australian member you have an American member you

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have a French member you have a German member you have a Romanian members

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members of NATO members of the European Union that are in there uh but you don’t

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have a a judge from Russia or from uh Bell Russia you don’t have a judge uh

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from Cuba or huras or nicaragu or Colombia the fact is that you need more

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representation from um Africa more representation uh from Asia and even if

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you have an African or an Asian or a Latin American if that person was

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educated uh in the United States or in the United Kingdom uh that person has a

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mindset uh that is Akin that is related uh to uh the Western approach to

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law and I think you have to have all of the schools of legal thinking

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represented in an international court of justice uh as I said right now it is

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heavily pro-western and uh it is surprising when

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they do adopt a decision um uh as they did in the case

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of South Africa against Israel but I’m highly disappointed uh with uh the

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denial of uh provisional measures demanded by Nicaragua in the Nicaragua

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against Germany case I mean it’s quite clear that Germany is complicit uh in

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the genocide uh complicit by giving not only Aid and comfort uh to um to Israel

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politically and otherwise but by delivering lethal weapons that have been used in the genocide now uh the uh the

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court uh affirmed this jurisdiction the court kept the case on the list Germany

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went all out to say uh the case must be struck from the list you have no

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jurisdiction the case is inadmissible that has not been um accepted by the

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court the court kept the case but I expect that Nicaragua uh uh against uh Germany we

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will put on the back burner and they probably won’t touch it you know once

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they did not issue the provisional measures now uh it’s going to be fan as

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the Germans say they’re going to put it aside and they’re not going to act on it and we have an information war going on

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if you want to have uh things move in international law you have to have a

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movement you have to have uh people riled up uh at what is happening and

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that’s what of course we see today in the uh University campuses that students

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who see it on television that genocide is actually happening before their eyes they are protesting but uh the United

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Nations and the international court of justice should help them with provisional measur should have speak

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clear language and say this is genocide and nothing less I keep saying to my

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students that at the end of the day although I completely agree with you international law matters it matters

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what states want and don’t want to do and they do want to perceive in a certain way and therefore Norms have a

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role to play um but politics Will trump law because it’s politics that makes the

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law so hence it’s it’s it’s it’s primary now what you’re just talking about is

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also the public perception of what is going on and we have seen in my view and in views of others the most Relentless

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propaganda probably ever since May maybe probably since the 1960s since the Red Scare that that that we have seen like

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Relentless uh approaches at trying to shape public narratives in in mainstream media which is one of the reasons why uh

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alternative Medias like this one like shows on YouTube become popular because people want alternative and an actual

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analysis of what is happening how do you see this interplay between law politics and uh media

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propaganda well uh the theory is that

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uh uh politics should be in the service of Law and not law in the service of

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politics that’s a theory uh the situation is totally different the

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situation is that uh governments set the narrative and in the past uh the media

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uh was the Watchdog uh of Human Rights was the Watchdog uh of the rights uh of the

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electorate uh that has changed um over the last 40 years uh the um shall we say

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the independent uh newspapers have disappeared everything has been bought

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up by Cong conglomerates and those are responsive to uh the government they are

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Echo Chambers uh for the Pentagon and for the uh State Department uh I used to

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write uh regularly in Germany for the frankurt alaman talk I used to get you

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know entire papers uh I used to write for um D I did many many uh opets uh in

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The Bu they wouldn’t touch anything of what I’m writing now because they are

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completely in the service of uh shall we say this uh elitist uh uh oligarchical

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uh system and um which is actually far more powerful than anything that um

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George Orwell thought in his 1984 or for that matter Aldo hutley uh in um Brave

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New World um it’s the Relentless brainwashing uh of the population that

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allows uh government to get away with it of course and and the average person as

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his wife his children his concerns uh International politics is

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not uh the priority uh of most people so

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uh they kind of say okay they’re not too bad let them do their work and they

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don’t think it’s students who have more time who still don’t have the

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responsibilities of having a family uh that uh actually realize that something

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is going on that is very very very wrong and that’s why uh we are demonstrating I

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used to demonstrate back 50 years ago uh against the Vietnam War and when I was

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at Harvard I demonstrated quite regularly against the Vietnam War and of

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course we were also beaten up the police was thrown against us more than once and

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um what we see now in um uh Harvard in Colombia and Berkeley at UCLA at

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Michigan Etc uh gives me hope uh that people have said enough is enough we’re

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not going to put up with this and uh our governments have to stop their

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complicity uh in uh in genocide but it is not yet we’re not yet there because

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governments do not listen to the people as I said here in Switzerland we have referenda here in Switzerland the people

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are consulted not only consulted they are informed because I’ve never seen in any other country and I’ve been monitor

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of Elections etc etc I was monitor for the U uh United Nations in the Ukrainian

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presidential and parliamentary elections uh in 1994 Chris Cross the country etc

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etc and uh or bless that was uh performa

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uh the um uh in Switzerland you get a booklet uh with the positions of all the parties

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with the position of the con Federal with you know exactly what is that issue

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what are the arguments pro and con and then you can decide and you go on the internet and you can say the these are

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my preferences and uh the computer will tell you then you’re closest to the PS

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or you’re closest to the four spot high or you’re closest to uh the greens or

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your closest uh to the uh the Christian democrats or whatever uh so that is here

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shall we say a matur system uh of democracy where people are consulted and

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people are informed uh the rest of the world uh elections don’t make much of a

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difference so you may recall the statement uh of uh Kur

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toal uh

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abaft you know if um if elections would change anything

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they would be abolished I mean it’s uh and the funniest thing is that the

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propaganda just by sheer repetition that we are a democracy that Germany is a

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democracy that Israel is a democracy people tend to believe it and but EX

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except when the United States uses this little word democracy and uh it has of

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course the National Endowment for democracy uh but what we mean is

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National Endowment for capitalism democracy is equated uh with uh capitalism so

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countries that uh Embrace capitalism are democratic countries that uh are a mixed

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bag or that um uh uh accept only certain tenants of

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capitalism but not not the rest uh are authoritarian uh dividing the world uh

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in this manner uh seems to you and seems to me uh completely infantile completely

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um primitive uh on the other hand uh it has been effective in uh shall we say

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keeping the population down uh in more or less uh tranquilizing them

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so that they don’t realize that they’re being manipulated all the time and uh I

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must say I was a great believer in American democracy and it took me

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decades I’m not saying years decades uh to realize that uh my my Illusions were

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not based uh on fact they were based uh on on propaganda we were based uh on

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what I have been taught uh in U high school and in college and university and

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what you know you read in the press and what you saw in Hollywood uh so the real

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world is totally different from that uh which we have been taught but I must say

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once you break uh with these Illusions once you

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realize that Santa Claus doesn’t exist you are actually liberated you you you

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you initially you’re disappointed you’re sad uh you you are even upset but after

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that uh then you go forward then then you are a free person and then you can

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as uh patus and uh Emmanuel K used to say sa out uh you can have the courage

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of your own convictions you can use your own brain you don’t depend on group

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think you don’t have to Simply Echo whatever nonsense you heard last night

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in CNN uh you have access to information you can fact check uh the news that you

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get and then you can arrive at a synthesis that is far closer to reality

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than what we’re getting yeah and I you know the interesting thing to me is that obviously the question of democracy or

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autocracy is absolutely dumb because it’s obviously not a deoy it’s obviously a scale right and you have certain

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countries that function according to more democratic principles and such according to less or just masquerade I

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would never ever say that the Chinese political system is on the same is

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functioning in the same way that the German political system does although to the outside they have like similar

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sounding institutions and so on but under the hood everything works differently and in the US and and and the UK too it works very very different

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and if we do the scale of good democracy bad democracy then definitely Switzerland is far higher up than than

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the United States or Germany because of this this representation issue the interesting thing to me in international politics is that international law

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actually doesn’t give a damn it doesn’t care on whether a country is is is Democratic or autocratic it all the only

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thing it cares about is it is it recognized by others if yes then so be it you’re part of you’re part of the

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club and now let’s discuss together so all in all international law is a very pragmatic way of structuring the inter

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international relations and we see that every country wants to be perceived as a good guy nobody wants to be perceived as

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a bad guy U nobody wants to be perceived as Unbreaking law they all make up reasons why what they’re doing is is

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legal so do you have hope um in in international law actually um helping us

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to structure our 8 billion self-organizing Planet further well if we win the information

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War yes because international law is rational and it has uh logic that what

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that I adhere to uh what I do not accept is double standards what I do not accept

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is international law alak cart and the United States in its uh shall we say

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pragmatism in its uh shall we say Imperial prag pragmatism uh does not

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adhere to international law the United States perceives itself as the

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indispensable country as the exceptional country and it perceives itself as above

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uh international law and that’s why the United States does not uh submit itself

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uh to any uh adjudication by International tribunals uh the United

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States uh had given the famous uh declaration under article 36 of the

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statute of the icj it withdrew it after losing several cases in the

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icj uh notably the Nicaragua against United States case of

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1986 uh and uh there were still C certain treaties that provided for

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automatic uh referral uh to the um uh

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International court of justice among them uh the genocide convention article

35:52

9 thereof but when the US finally ratified the genocide convention vention

35:58

44 years after its adoption in 1992 that

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was under George H W bush he accepted it but with a

36:09

reservation he put a reservation to article 9 so you cannot bring a case

36:15

automatically through the icj on the issue of genocide unless the United

36:21

States agrees and of course the United States does not agree uh the shall we say the last REM

36:28

uh of uh acceptance of international adjudication uh was the optional

36:33

protocol uh to the uh Vienna convention on diplomatic relations and the Vienna

36:39

convention on Consular relations uh there was number of cases against the

36:44

United States because um especially because of the death penalty uh against

36:52

um citizens of other countries uh you had the LR case uh the LR others uh were

36:59

Germans uh who had the uh the parents had divorced and the mother took the

37:05

kids to the states and of course they didn’t have a proper upbringing etc etc

37:10

they engaged in a berky that went bad and uh so uh when uh Germany found out

37:16

that two of their citizens who were under death sentence they they asked for a

37:22

um uh an order provisional order uh from the international court of justice that

37:27

they should not be executed of course the order was granted and they were executed United States doesn’t care and

37:34

then came uh another case aena and 51 Mexicans um and the court again uh

37:41

issued a an order not to execute them the United States went ahead and executed them and um and then the United

37:49

States said n uh we are denouncing the optional protocols so we will never

37:55

again be brought uh to the Court uh obviously the United States continues

38:00

violating the Vienna convention on diplomatic relations and the Vienna Convention of cul of relations uh so the

38:07

violation of international law is there uh but you cannot uh bring it to the

38:12

international court of justice for adjudication because the United States has removed uh the uh recognition of the

38:20

icj uh to adjudicate the case uh so um

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United States similarly does not accept any kind of um uh individual complaints

38:31

procedures not in in the human rights committee or in the committee on economic social cultural rights or in

38:37

the um uh uh Committee Against torture etc etc that’s why the United States

38:43

commits just monstrous crimes like the torture in Abu and in Guantanamo and the

38:51

extraordinary Renditions under George W bush I was particularly ugly period as

38:57

the case may be uh other than uh criticism in the Human Rights Council uh

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there’s nothing because uh you cannot condemn the United States uh uh uh

39:12

before a uh a tribunal yeah no but but the United States is the largest

39:18

superpower we’ve ever had and these these beasts never let themselves be constrained by by higher rules that are

39:25

not their own I I understand the logic of that but what we have seen what was that five six weeks ago

39:32

Israel attacking a Embassy compound and and for everybody watching and consulate

39:39

is part of an embassy compound and is covered by the Vienna convention and if you know this is so blatant and then the

39:48

argumentation that because there was military personnel of of of an enemy State uh uh present that makes it a

39:55

military Target is so utterly ridiculous because every single Embassy in the

40:00

world usually has military atach and that would blow up the entire concept

40:06

now if this continues I mean is are we going to lose the Vienna convention are

40:12

we going to lose these these Norms because states are going to say like well flip it I’m not going to do this

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either I’m now going to attack any kind of Embassy I want because it hurts my

40:23

enemy well uh we need the Norms we need

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to return uh to shall we say an acceptance uh that these Norms are a

40:38

common denominator for modus vendi in the world for uh uh

40:45

living together uh if we don’t have Norms uh then it’s really going to be uh

40:51

Total War permanent War throughout the planet we we don’t want that uh so we

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realize that it’s being violated crashy by Israel in the case of of the embassy

41:08

uh in um uh in um Syria uh in Damascus and um

41:17

25 years ago we just uh remembered uh the illegal totally illegal attack by

41:25

NATO uh against uh uh Belgrade against the civilian

41:30

population of Serbia uh and the attack on the Chinese uh Embassy in Belgrade

41:38

and when he was there uh recently uh visiting uh the Serbian government uh he

41:47

specifically made reference uh to the destruction of the Chinese um Embassy in

41:55

Belgrade in 1999 but for this one the US actually apologized and paid rep reparations very

42:03

different yeah yeah well now you have a case in the international court of

42:08

justice uh the case of Mexico against Ecuador because uh Ecuador did something

42:16

that not even uh in the horrible years uh of the military hunters in

42:23

Chile and in Argentina uh you did not have the government uh

42:30

sending its troops or sending its police uh to break into uh an embassy

42:39

and to uh kidnap uh a person who had

42:44

diplomatic asylum in that um uh Embassy

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and uh no doubt Ecuador is going to be solidly uh convicted uh for having

42:57

uh broken into the Mexican embassy in Kito and having kidnapped the former uh

43:04

vice president uh of uh uh Ecuador um Jorge glass who had sought uh and

43:12

obtained diplomatic uh Asylum uh in in the embassy now uh the arguments uh of

43:22

uh Mexico are very clear uh the Vienna convention on U uh diplomatic relations

43:29

was clearly broken uh by um uh by Ecuador not only that the the Ecuador

43:37

actually broke the the Treaty of Amity between Mexico and and Ecuador and the

43:45

regional international law uh convention that applies there which is uh the

43:51

1954 uh diplomatic Asylum um uh convention and The Diplomatic Asylum

43:58

convention is very clear in article four that it is for uh the country uh uh granting

44:08

Asylum uh to determine whether the person uh is a

44:15

political uh uh Refugee who uh deserves

44:20

um uh diplomatic Asylum it’s not a question that uh Ecuador calls him a

44:26

criminal call him a common criminal and uh that would

44:32

remove uh The Sovereign right uh of Mexico to Grant uh diplomatic Asylum so

44:40

granting Asylum is actually a humanitarian act uh that I mean uh

44:47

Mexico did not have to Grant um uh diplomatic Asylum tolas but it

44:54

spent two months investigating or all the allegations against horor glass and

44:59

determined that this was law fair determined uh that all these trump top

45:04

charges against him were like the trump top charges against Julian Assange uh in

45:10

uh in Sweden they were politically motivated so he certainly had the right

45:17

uh to invoke uh the right to Asylum to invoke uh the Geneva uh Refugee

45:23

Convention of 1951 and the International court of justice will decide

45:30

accordingly uh but I said there’s a breakdown in the rule of law

45:35

domestically and internationally uh I see that more and more uh in the last few years and I

45:43

wonder whether uh you know this is um the last uh effort uh of the capitalist

45:52

the Western world uh to hold itself

45:57

um I would see uh that international law will evolve uh further but uh the uh

46:06

motive for the evolution of international law is no longer not going to be the United States or Europe it’s

46:13

going to be the global majority it’s going to be the thinkers uh in Latin

46:20

America and Africa and in Asia that are going to take the lead in establishing

46:26

uh International AAL law and uh I think it’s necessary because uh we have uh uh

46:36

caught ourselves in our own web and in our own parallel uh world uh we are not

46:43

acting on the basis uh of facts and evidence uh we are uh still somehow lost

46:52

in our own ideology and in our desperate effort uh not to lose uh our

47:01

exceptionalism and we’re incapable to realize that we’ve already lost it I

47:07

mean that is um if you want tragic it’s it’s worse uh you know one of the great

47:16

uh Greek tragedies I mean we need a Sophocles or an edes or actually to take

47:22

it on the comic side you need an Aristophanes to write what is happening

47:29

uh in the world right now but my concern uh is not just literature my

47:36

concern is uh that since we live in a nuclear world since uh we have 10

47:45

countries uh with nuclear weapons uh and uh the United States is

47:52

saber rattling and is provoking and uh uh there can be a miscalculation

48:00

somewhere I I know I I know of nine which one is the number 10 that you just

48:06

added uh well I mean you’re counting Israel I count Israel as part of the nine counting Israel and counted uh uh

48:15

North Korea of course no I’m not counting Teran yet I

48:20

mean so the so the P the P5 right uh P5 have it but also Pakistan has India

48:27

North Korea and Israel is there a 10th one are you suspecting is Iran uh well I

48:35

wouldn’t put it past it uh but whether it be nine or 10 it is highly dangerous

48:40

okay uh because take uh the uh insane

48:46

idea uh of um you know putting these um

48:51

uh missiles in Ukraine etc etc uh

48:57

if NATO uh were to try a preemptive uh strike on

49:04

um on uh uh Russia and let’s remember that the only country that has ever used

49:12

the atomic weapon is the United States uh uh Russia has had Atomic weapons uh

49:18

now for 70 years and has never used them the United States uh had them and tried

49:23

them out in Hiroshima and Nagasaki certainly won one of the mega Crimes of

49:28

the 20th century uh but the United States keeps trying to uh whitewash it

49:36

and try to explain it away when indeed uh was uh a genocide it was a crime

49:44

against humanity uh so uh in any event

49:49

uh I don’t see Russia uh doing uh a

49:54

preemptive strike on the United States but the United States and the crazies uh

50:00

in NATO are capable of uh thinking of a Preen of strike on Russia but even

50:08

assuming that they were to annihilate St Petersburg and um and uh Moscow and vad

50:15

Divas talk you realize that the oceans are alive with nuclear

50:22

submarines uh that have nuclear warheads so if uh the United States were to uh

50:31

attack Russia forget New York Washington Los Angeles San Francisco they’re

50:38

gone uh and they have Hypersonic uh missiles which we don’t yet and uh so uh

50:46

in a situation like that uh the only thing you can do is to deescalate

50:52

deescalate uh just do not create a situ situation in which someone can make a

51:00

mistake uh or even a computer glitch because sometimes it this can happen can

51:05

be activated uh by artificial intelligence and then that’s the end of

51:10

humanity

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Lavrov’s Stunning Press Conference On Multipolarity

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeH_NHgusz4)

Last week I showed you the speech that Sergey Lavrov gave at the UN on July 16 (   • Russia Outlines The Future Of Interna…  )

After that speech, he gave a press conference at the UN headquarter in which he touched on many important topics, including Russia’s position on peace negotiations with Ukraine and the horrible situation in Gaza. The full press conference is here: https://webtv.un.org/en/asset/k1i/k1i…

But one aspect I found particularly interesting, which is how Russia sees multipolarity arising now naturally and how Moscow is supporting this process. I clipped these parts together so you can get an idea of what to expect from Russia in this multilateral and organic process.

Transkripzioa:

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now when they repeat like a mantra we

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will support Ukraine for as long as it

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takes I’m curious how long will it take

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like in Afghanistan where it took 20

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years to realize that you lost or in

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Iraq where you also left although now

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you are trying to stay despite the Iraqi

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parliament’s decision that the US should

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withdraw its troops or like in Libya

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where the state collapsed and now

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everyone is trying to piece it back

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together a multi-polar world is a

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reality it’s not something someone

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invented hello everybody so last week I

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showed you the speech that Serge lavro

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gave at the United Nations on July 16th

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you can watch that one here if you

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haven’t seen it already right after that

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speech he also gave a press conference

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at the UN headquarter in which he

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touched on many important topics

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including Russia’s position on peace NE

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negotiations with Ukraine and the

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horrible situation in Gaza the full

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press conference is linked in the

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description but one aspect I found

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particularly interesting and I would

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like to point that out to you that is

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how Russia sees multipolarity arising

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now naturally and how Moscow is

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supporting this process I clip these

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parts together so that you can get an

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idea of what to expect from Russia in

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this multilateral and organic process

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I’ll give some more comments after the

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videos but but now have a listen first

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Mr Minister I represent Chinese

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television on May 28th US President

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Biden said in an interview that China’s

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economy is on the brink of collapse in

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your opinion what are the results of the

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Chinese economy’s

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performance could you explain why an

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economy that according to Biden is on

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the brink of collapse is called a

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decisive Factor by nato in the Ukrainian

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conflict how can an economy on the brink

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become a decisive Factor contributing to

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the conflict

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as stated in NATO’s commun regarding

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China how does this statement relate to

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reality the Chinese economy is

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developing powerfully and rapidly yes

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attempts are being made to stop it just

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recently when chairman Xi Jinping was in

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France he was not only in talks with

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macron but also with Ursula V

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liion representatives of the European

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Union publicly stated following these

2:35

negotiations that they demanded China

2:38

reduce the production of high-tech Goods

2:40

because the West has lost its

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competitiveness how does this align with

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the principles of a free market and Fair

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competition the West wants to slow down

2:49

China’s economy in addition to demands

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to stop producing a lot of cheap and

2:54

highquality products sanctions are being

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applied to slow down the technological

2:58

development of China in other sectors of

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the economy but there should be no

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doubt the more restrictions that

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completely discredit the model of

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globalization and unity of the world

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economy promoted by the West the more

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actively and effectively the countries

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against which these sanctions are

3:23

applied will work and create their own

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Technologies and

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products this of course includes the

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People’s Republic of China the Russian

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Federation and many

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others regarding China it is interesting

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that I read a statement I can’t remember

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exactly now but I think it was made by

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stoltenberg he was commenting on the

3:44

military exercises that took place

3:46

between China and Belarus on belarian

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territory and he seriously with such

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pathos declared that this is a dangerous

4:03

matter because China is approaching NATO

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but the fact that the Americans

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approached China long ago that they are

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surrounding China and Russia too where

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all this is happening on our borders

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with block structures like OAS and the

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USA Japan Korea the USA and South Korea

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are making agreements on joint nuclear

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policy and much more they are trying to

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split the region to pull some countries

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into their ranks into the ranks of these

4:29

closed block structures and NATO itself

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has decided to advance the

4:34

infrastructure of this block into the

4:36

indopacific

4:37

region and practical steps are already

4:39

being taken stoltenberg stated in

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response to the question how come you

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always called yourselves a defensive

4:46

Alliance an alliance for the protection

4:48

of member country’s

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territories he says yes we remain a

4:53

defensive Alliance but there are threats

4:55

to our alliance

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now it is global so we must go to the

5:07

indopacific

5:08

region but I think the aggressive and

5:11

unjust nature of such a position is

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clear to

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everyone together with the People’s

5:17

Republic of China and our other partners

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within the framework of the Shanghai

5:20

cooperation organization in contacts

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with aan with the cooperation Council

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for the Arab states of the gulf we

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advocate for a security model that will

5:30

be EUR Asian it will be based on

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equality the indivisibility of security

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and full Mutual consideration of

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interests on the balance of these

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interests I think this model has a

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future but it will take a lot of

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time when the United States entered the

5:54

world stage in Afghanistan Iraq Libya

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how did it end what what peaceful

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changes for the better occurred there

6:03

now when they repeat like a mantra we

6:05

will support Ukraine for as long as it

6:07

takes I’m curious how long will it take

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like in Afghanistan where it took 20

6:12

years to realize that you lost or in

6:14

Iraq where you also left although now

6:17

you are trying to stay despite the Iraqi

6:19

parliament’s decision that the US should

6:21

withdraw its troops or like in Libya

6:24

where the state collapsed and now

6:26

everyone is trying to piece it back

6:27

together a multipolar world is a reality

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it’s not something someone

6:41

invented if you look at the share of the

6:43

USA and the West in the global gross

6:45

domestic product 50 years ago 20 years

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ago and now you will see that the

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situation has

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changed a couple of years ago bricks

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countries in terms of gross national

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product by purchasing power parity

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surpassed the G seven countries and now

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with five more countries added to Bricks

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this ratio will only

7:05

increase but the USA is doing everything

7:08

to ensure that this real weight in the

7:10

global economy and finance of New Growth

7:12

centers is not reflected in the

7:14

activities of the international monetary

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fund and the World Bank the USA holds on

7:19

to the voting package that belongs to

7:21

them about 15% which according to IMF

7:24

rules allows them to block

7:27

decisions although to be fair

7:39

it has long been necessary to

7:40

redistribute these quotas these votes as

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the bricks countries insist this will be

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one of the main economic and financial

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issues at the bricks Summit in Kazan in

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October this

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year in the World Trade Organization

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which was promoted to all of us as the

7:56

optimal and fair regulator of World

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Trade the situation has changed as soon

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as China began to surpass the United

8:03

States in competition developing its

8:05

economy on the principles of

8:06

globalization that were invented by the

8:08

Americans and offered to everyone the US

8:10

started to act China began to outplay

8:13

them on their own field in the economy

8:16

and the us simply shut down the World

8:18

Trade organization’s dispute resolution

8:20

body technical tricks were used and now

8:23

there is no Quorum for many years all

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the complaints that China rightly

8:28

directed at the Us’s protectionist

8:30

policy have been lying

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dormant therefore the reform of the

8:44

World Trade Organization is on the

8:45

bricks agenda we will strive for this

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and these topics are already and of

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course will be among the main ones at

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the G20 Summit in Rio de

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Janeiro this structure should fairly

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consider real matters in the global

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economy and take steps for its

9:01

development in such a way that there is

9:03

mutual benefit corresponding to the

9:05

contribution to the world

9:08

economy now if we take Eurasia there is

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the Shanghai cooperation organization

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the Eurasian economic Union

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aan all these structures have agreements

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with China on harmonizing integration

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projects with the Chinese one belt one

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road project the countries of the

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Persian Gulf are also located here which

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by the way is also Eurasia

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and so all these organizations

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establishing contacts among themselves

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create the fabric of future material

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interaction on the Eurasian continent

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based on the comparative advantages of a

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unified space rich in natural resources

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and important from the perspective of

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Maritime

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Communications we actively encourage

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these

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processes at the same time after the

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United States together with its allies

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imposed unprecedented sanctions against

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Russia Iran and Venezuela as well as

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against China and many other countries

10:10

nations in Africa and Latin America

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began to think about how to protect

10:13

themselves from such

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whims because no one knows who the

10:25

Americans will get angry with in the

10:27

future

10:30

for example at last year’s G20 Summit

10:32

president Lula actively promoted the

10:34

idea of creating alternative payment

10:36

platforms and settlement mechanisms

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within brics this is being handled by

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the finance ministers and Central Bank

10:43

governors of brics recommendations will

10:45

be prepared for the summit by the way

10:48

president Lula also suggested

10:50

considering the move towards a common

10:52

currency within

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CAC everyone is trying to protect

10:57

themselves recently Saudi Arabia stated

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that in a situation where the United

11:02

States and the entire Collective West

11:04

want to freeze Russian money they will

11:06

think about how to be less dependent on

11:08

the dollar the process of dollarization

11:11

is underway and it cannot be

11:22

stopped by the way Donald Trump was

11:24

mentioned today he said that it is

11:26

suicidal for the United States

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but this process was initiated by the

11:31

United States

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itself therefore Regional structures

11:35

such as the African Union CAC and Asian

11:37

organizations which I mentioned are

11:39

already in contact with each other and

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of course on a global level brics has

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all the capabilities to serve as a

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harmonizer of processes in other regions

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of the global majority the group of 20

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which I mentioned will certainly remain

11:54

where the global majority will continue

11:55

to communicate with the West if of

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course the West is ready to do so

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honestly the United Nations will remain

12:03

where everyone is represented and

12:05

everyone must

12:15

communicate yesterday Peter Sarto the

12:17

Minister of Foreign Affairs of Hungary

12:19

spoke on this topic he said that he had

12:22

always been sure that the UN was created

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to communicate with everyone not to

12:26

support the Ambitions of the West now

12:29

everything is different the West has

12:31

decided that the UN was created to

12:33

reinforce its excessive Ambitions and to

12:36

play the role of hegemon on the world

12:38

stage I think that at some point the

12:41

United States will understand that it is

12:43

better to be part of a constructive

12:45

process than to use sanctions in

12:46

military force making everyone dance to

12:49

its tune moreover the tune often changes

12:53

four years and a different tune everyone

12:56

tries to adapt somehow but now already

12:59

understand that it is not easy

13:01

considering the specifics of the

13:03

internal political processes in the

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United

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States okay so let me add just a few

13:13

comments first about the content and

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then lastly about the form of what we

13:17

just saw first I think it is quite

13:21

remarkable that overall Mr lavro just

13:25

like Mr Putin before actually view what

13:28

is currently going on on with this drive

13:31

toward multipolarity as a process and

13:34

they view it first and foremost as a

13:36

process and not as an end goal it’s not

13:39

the case that in the end we get to

13:41

multipolarity we are already in a

13:43

multipolar system and whatever is going

13:46

to come is going to come out of this

13:48

process that we’re seeing playing out in

13:51

front of our eyes and then he gives a

13:53

couple of um reasons or factors why this

13:57

is happening so this is to me an

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important diff difference from how I see

14:02

how NATO countries and the collective

14:05

West generally frames issues they they

14:07

always look at the outcomes they want to

14:10

achieve like having a war with China or

14:14

um militarizing borders they don’t look

14:17

at the general system in which they want

14:20

to live or that that you would want to

14:23

produce the entire Globe the the NATO

14:26

approach is always trying to Define um

14:29

where to do what and how it has to

14:32

happen and then and then reason

14:34

backwards of like what do we need to get

14:35

in order to do uh to have the

14:37

capabilities to do interventions what

14:40

Russia is laying out here is how they’re

14:42

viewing how the system is now developing

14:45

and in the system they are just one part

14:47

and then you’ve got the other parts and

14:48

then you look at the push and pull

14:51

factors um for for the following

14:54

developments and interestingly that’s

14:56

the second

14:57

point the future that they they’re

14:59

seeing coming does not exclude the

15:00

United States he’s saying that very

15:03

clearly the US has a space has a place

15:05

in this as well and of course it will

15:07

play a role because it would be lunatic

15:09

to think that the US will just disappear

15:11

or that you can build a system that um

15:14

that that doesn’t take into account the

15:16

United States naturally any kind of

15:18

global uh order that will come or that

15:22

that’s going to develop will include the

15:25

United States because it is such a

15:27

powerful country and every country

15:29

moress is included I mean we don’t get

15:30

rid of of plots of land so the Russian

15:33

analysis of what’s going to come still

15:36

includes the US and the the question to

15:40

to the global South countries really is

15:43

how to manage this trans transition in a

15:45

way to get the US to become cooperative

15:48

and collaborative in this uh in this new

15:51

environment uh without actually um

15:55

without Wars and ensuing all the time

15:58

and I think that’s what’s going through

16:00

their mind the third point is that um

16:04

they are clearly viewing us actions and

16:07

NATO actions secondary I mean we know

16:10

NATO is basically the extension of of US

16:12

foreign policy right and then down

16:14

downstreams some where theirs is Europe

16:16

also following but they the Russians

16:20

view their actions as one of the driving

16:23

factors so it’s not necessarily

16:25

something that the Russians still need

16:26

to do very much I mean of course Russia

16:29

uh and China as lvov sees it have to do

16:32

a lot to counter these actions but it’s

16:35

actually the the primary reason why we

16:37

have a development toward multipolarity

16:40

is because the US is acting the way it

16:43

does it is because NATO is trying to to

16:46

push itself in into other regions it’s

16:49

because there is this constant drum beat

16:52

of uh follow the rules based order

16:54

follow the rules based order that is not

16:56

an a fair distribution ution of how the

16:59

world world is and other countries see

17:02

that and hence you’ve got a counter

17:04

reaction and he viewed that as a natural

17:06

counter reaction of which Russia is a

17:08

part of but it’s not the only uh it’s

17:11

not the only participant so overall I

17:14

think the the Russians are relatively um

17:18

uh relaxed about this because they do

17:22

understand that the that multipolarity

17:25

is not something that they need to to

17:28

whip up with with a big long stick it’s

17:31

something that’s going to come naturally

17:33

as long as they and as long as they play

17:35

a constructive role then you can

17:37

facilitate the uh the move into this

17:40

into this future where where power is

17:42

going to be more distributed although it

17:45

already is right it it that’s that’s a

17:47

very important part but to me the inside

17:49

here is that um Again part of this

17:53

process where that Russia sees itself as

17:55

one part of this whole thing and then

17:57

the fourth point really is also this

17:59

unequal nature of the system that is

18:03

being championed by the United States

18:05

and that that goes together with the

18:07

point before right that this counter

18:09

reaction that we’re seeing is a counter

18:11

reaction not necessarily against

18:13

Washington per se and it’s certainly not

18:16

a counter reaction against all of the

18:18

values that are being uh touted from the

18:22

from the collective West against it’s

18:24

against Freedom against Liberty against

18:26

democracy it’s not about that the Cor

18:29

issue as Mr lavro presented is this

18:33

rules-based International order system

18:36

which is not international law which is

18:39

not equal and fair to all the member

18:42

states it is as Chaz Freeman in a um in

18:46

a in a in a brilliant talk recently that

18:49

I that I uploaded about a week ago um

18:51

explained and I’ll I’ll try to link it

18:53

as well the rules based International

18:55

order is the principle of rule by

19:00

law that you use the law in order to

19:03

make everybody follow and you you keep

19:06

saying that the law is what the law is

19:07

what the law is what the law is and you

19:09

have to follow follow follow but only

19:11

the groups of uh targets have to follow

19:14

that you designate as such and you take

19:16

you other groups you completely exempt

19:18

from that you exempt yourself often and

19:20

the rules of the rules by law are never

19:23

spelled out they’re not written down

19:25

because as soon as they’re written down

19:27

you would actually you would run the

19:29

risk that you have to follow those as

19:30

well but you never actually write them

19:32

down you just claim that they’re there

19:35

and then the designate who has to follow

19:38

what’s what’s apparently being said but

19:40

there’s constant constant exemptions for

19:42

yourself and your buddies right that

19:45

it’s the opposite of the rule of law

19:47

where the law is written down and we

19:49

have that we have international law but

19:51

we see time and again how the US how

19:53

Europe how NATO is breaking these rules

19:56

and that’s that’s why they don’t don’t

19:58

call them uh their their rules for them

20:02

so they use this differently right they

20:04

they have a differential understanding

20:06

of um who has to follow what kind of

20:09

rules and that that is

20:11

something that a lot of other countries

20:14

around the globe in the global South

20:16

that they don’t accept it they see it

20:19

they understand it and they intuitively

20:22

now rally against it and they try to do

20:24

something about it and the harder the US

20:26

tries to push this down the throat of

20:28

every body the harder the counter

20:29

reaction is going to is is is coming and

20:32

the more they will start building the

20:35

Frameworks that will allow them to

20:37

escape so it’s not making an alternative

20:40

structure for the sake of having

20:41

alternative structure it’s the

20:42

alternative structure for the sake of

20:44

not um being dependent anymore of what

20:47

can be used to whip them into uh into

20:50

submission and in this sense a fair

20:52

world doesn’t necessarily mean uh one in

20:56

which um everything is all the problems

20:59

are solved it’s a world in which the

21:01

rules are more clearly spelled out and

21:04

where the decision-making power is more

21:06

distributed now the um the last thing

21:12

maybe then about the form of what we’ve

21:14

seen what I find most remarkable is that

21:16

the uh this analysis or this this this

21:20

press conference really resembl more an

21:23

analysis of world affairs than a um a

21:27

reprodu

21:29

of the standpoint and Viewpoint of

21:32

Russia although that was also included

21:33

especially when it came to Ukraine and

21:35

so on but what we are seeing with Mr

21:38

lavro here and with with

21:41

other world leaders from the global

21:43

South as well is that what they’re

21:44

trying to do is to explain how they view

21:48

international relations at the moment

21:50

and to me it seems that they have a

21:53

pretty realistic view of what is going

21:56

on and how these different these

21:58

different um uh Action

22:02

Reaction uh uh uh processes then work

22:05

and create what we are seeing and in

22:07

this sense what we are getting from

22:09

Washington from Berlin is often more of

22:11

a kind of a fantasy world and uh you who

22:14

are listening to this you you probably

22:16

understand what I mean we we we hear a

22:19

lot of what the West wants to be the

22:22

case like when we’ve been hearing for

22:24

two years that uh Ukraine is winning

22:26

Ukraine is winning Ukraine is winning uh

22:28

Russia’s losing Russia’s losing and the

22:30

Russians are going to run away and they

22:32

create this outcome that they want to be

22:36

the case and then the argumentation

22:39

starts whereas it seems to me that the

22:41

Russians are really making a point of

22:43

trying to analyze what is actually going

22:45

on on the ground and what is going on in

22:48

different places and then take decision

22:50

decisions based on that they don’t

22:52

create a fantasy world and in this sense

22:55

I do think the analysis is just more

22:58

appropriate and this is then where

23:00

people from the collective West and who

23:02

are inside the collective West bubble

23:04

get angry at us and call us Putin

23:07

puppets and repeating Russian talking

23:10

points they usually don’t say we repeat

23:12

Russian lies because they know that that

23:14

all of these things that Mr lro says

23:16

over there are actually not lies they

23:18

are actually facts but a talking point

23:20

is not the same as a lie and they know

23:22

that they just don’t like it when this

23:25

this counter analysis of international

23:28

relations when that is being propagated

23:30

what they want is their version of

23:32

reality to be believed internalized and

23:35

then acted

23:36

accordingly um no whether they do that

23:39

knowingly or not now um lavro and and

23:43

and and uh colleagues from China and

23:45

colleagues from from Asian and so on

23:47

that I talk that the people also the

23:49

people that I talk to I I never talk to

23:51

lavro but the people that I talk to who

23:53

have similar analysis they understand

23:55

that this that this fantasy world of the

23:58

the West it just has nothing to do with

24:00

the realities that they are seeing and

24:02

then they take they take different um

24:05

they learn different things from what

24:08

the collective West believes should be

24:11

learned and that’s then where this

24:13

friction starts um were were um

24:17

especially um like people indoctrinated

24:21

within the little bubble then start uh

24:23

accusing everybody else of of not living

24:26

in reality because they don’t live in

24:28

their reality they don’t judge things

24:30

the same way and M that’s why this one

24:33

of the most powerful things uh Sergey

24:35

labov can do time and again is just give

24:38

good and proper

24:40

analysis and even though it is

24:42

absolutely clear that he too of course

24:44

gives it a spin and and adds the adds

24:48

the the points that Russia would would

24:50

want to be believed and would want um

24:52

everybody else to also follow along that

24:54

at the end of the day the most important

24:57

thing is to give a proper um overview of

25:01

what is what can be observed and then

25:04

the fact that the collective west

25:06

countries are

25:09

unable not NE not not just unwilling but

25:11

unable to understand the world from the

25:13

Viewpoint of other people and other

25:16

places you know what the what what the

25:18

world looks like from looking at it from

25:20

Jakarta looking at it from Singapore

25:22

looking at it from Beijing looking at it

25:24

from Moscow the inability of doing that

25:27

that’s really what what currently is is

25:30

driving a lot of the madness that we are

25:32

seeing coming out of the US and and

25:34

Europe this little mental prison that

25:37

they’re in so uh Serge lavro I think

25:40

correctly here um approaches this by

25:43

simply giving more of the uh more

25:46

analysis of how things should be looked

25:49

at in a more um in a more rational

25:53

rational Manner and Action Reaction

25:56

patterns and he he they he keeps

25:59

repeating that in most of his speeches

26:01

in in most of the things that he does

26:04

like be less angry or although sometimes

26:07

there’s anger too of course but uh just

26:09

do analysis and then for us the the the

26:12

challenge is to to figure out whether

26:15

that analysis then um stand will stand

26:18

the test of time and whether um

26:21

historians in the future will actually

26:23

be on a more or less same page or

26:25

whether we are we are being misled into

26:28

into another way of thinking that

26:30

doesn’t that doesn’t portray everything

26:33

that’s going on on the ground um

26:35

properly but um well that’s the

26:38

challenge of a thinking world thank you

26:40

very much for your attention today

26:42

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Francesca Albanese Criticises Israel On Brutality, Impunity Over Palestine At UN | Dawn News English

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UN Rapporteur Francesca Albanese addresses Israel’s actions in Palestine, focusing on its impunity and the international community’s inaction. Speaking at the UN headquarters in Geneva, she calls out the lack of sanctions on Israel despite its brutality and barbarism against Palestinians. Albanese’s powerful remarks highlight the growing global frustration.

Transkripzioa:

0:01

good afternoon

0:02

everyone um after 14 months I’m burned

0:07

by having to yet again explain the

0:10

unbelievable amount of suffering and

0:12

grief the Palestinians people the

0:14

Palestinian people have endured in the

0:16

last year for crimes the member states

0:18

have the clear responsibility of

0:20

preventing stopping and punishing among

0:23

which is genocide today the situation on

0:26

the ground is catastrophic the crisis in

0:29

Gaza has become a global crisis that

0:31

concerns all of us and that is why I’m

0:33

particularly humbled and honored today

0:36

to stand before you with colleagues who

0:38

are legal experts in their own domain

0:40

and whose analysis captures equally

0:43

critical aspect of the very of of this

0:46

very deep uh

0:48

crisis um but let me start by putting

0:52

the occupied Palestinian territory in

0:54

your mind again as it disappears from

0:58

the from the news in Gaza more than

1:01

44,000 people have been ass certain

1:05

killed uh by Israeli snipers and bombs

1:08

70% of whom women and children from the

1:11

beginning more than 100,000 in counting

1:14

are the wounded thousands are are unable

1:17

to be treated let alone cured for the

1:19

most Bas basic diseases and if it was

1:22

not

1:23

enough they will now have to go through

1:25

the second winter living in makeshift

1:28

camps without adequate food or clothing

1:32

the entire population of Gaza has been

1:34

uprooted and often multiple times

1:36

hundreds of thousands have lost their

1:38

homes forever children do not know if

1:40

they will be able to get back to school

1:42

in the past four months alone nearly

1:45

19,000 children have been hospitalized

1:47

for acute malnutrition famine today is a

1:51

reality and this is all the more

1:53

outrageous as we see humanitarian Aid

1:55

being blocked in the West Bank including

1:58

his Jerusalem militar Israeli Security

2:01

operation settlement expansion evictions

2:03

demolitions violence and threats of

2:06

annexation are inflicting further pain

2:08

and Injustice on the Palestinians who

2:10

are subject to an unlawful and

2:13

intensified shotto kill policy it’s

2:16

nearly 800 that the Palestinians who

2:18

have been killed and thousand injured uh

2:21

this year amidst ongoing restriction on

2:24

their movement and access to basic

2:26

Services livelihood and farmlands

2:30

what is the the how did we get here

2:34

impunity this is the key word to

2:37

understand the barbaric scale of the

2:39

isra that Israeli genocide has taken

2:41

since its birth Israel has never been

2:43

held to the same standard as as most of

2:46

the members of the International

2:48

Community Israel has defied countless

2:51

General Assembly Security Council

2:53

resolutions International court of

2:55

justice advisory opinion and has

2:57

targeted un personnel and facilities and

2:59

also declared the personas nrata not

3:01

only me but the Secretary General

3:03

himself without everbearing consequences

3:06

there are never sanctions on Israel

3:08

judicial processes are either ignored or

3:10

circumvented and trade continues and

3:12

diplomatic ties remain intact member

3:16

states seem to be to be paralyzed or

3:18

struck many of them still normalizing

3:21

the occupation the repression of the

3:23

Palestinian people depicting their

3:25

resistance in the territory that Israel

3:27

occupies as terrorism or at best as a

3:30

tantrum of an unruly population

3:32

incapable of abiding in silence to what

3:34

the International

3:35

Community has decided as its faith it is

3:39

uncons to me that many in the united for

3:42

many in the United Nations Palestine

3:44

continues to represent an issue to be

3:46

negotiated where the Palestinians have

3:48

to accept sooner or later the status quo

3:51

their fight to self-determination

3:53

reduced to a humanitarian crisis and

3:55

accept quietly the L of the the loss of

3:57

their land their failure to confront

3:59

imperialistic force of settler

4:02

colonialism as a human rights expert and

4:04

as a human being I have to stand against

4:07

this and amidst all of this structural

4:09

Injustice I want to conclude with three

4:11

main messages to ensure Justice

4:14

accountability first the halting of any

4:17

direct or indirect arms transfer to

4:20

Israel second the revision the revision

4:22

of Israel credentials to be part of the

4:24

United Nations to show that impunity

4:26

will no longer be tolerated in this

4:28

situation if he wants to fulfill its

4:30

mission to preserve the security and

4:31

peace for all and third and last

4:34

resolving once and for all the question

4:36

of Palestine in line with international

4:37

law means three things and the genocide

4:41

now and the occupation by September next

4:43

year because this is this is the

4:45

deadline that the general assembly has

4:47

given uh Israel to comply with

4:49

International court of justice advisory

4:51

opinion which has ordered this year that

4:53

Israel dismantles the occupation the

4:56

settlement and the control of natural

4:58

resources to totally and unconditionally

5:01

no exception this means realizing the

5:03

right of starting to realize the right

5:05

of self-determination of the Palestinian

5:07

people um for we need to understand and

5:11

embrace once and for all that this is

5:13

not a conflict conflict as a term is a

5:16

misnomer here because there is a settler

5:18

Colonial framework uh at play when it we

5:21

talk of Palestine and I’m not using this

5:23

language as an ideological slogan but as

5:25

a framework capable of accurately

5:28

describing the reality in the occupied

5:30

Palestinian territory that is becoming

5:32

more and more catastrophic as uh as the

5:34

time passes thank you

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