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trade between China and India has a long

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and Rich history spanning back over two

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Millennia the two ancient civilizations

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first engaged through Overland trade

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routes most notably the Silk Road which

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facilitated the exchange of goods

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culture and knowledge between east and

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south Asia as early as the first

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millennium BCE archaeological evidence

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such as Indian beads found in China from

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this period underscores the early

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contact between these civilizations one

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of the most notable developments in this

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trade relationship occurred with the

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spread of Buddhism from India to China

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during the 1st Century CE this religious

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and cultural exchange was facilitated by

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trade routes especially as Buddhist

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monks traveled between the two regions

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along with the transmission of religion

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Goods such as Chinese silk and Indian

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spices gems and textiles moved along the

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Silk Road silk in particular became a

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symbol of Chinese exports highly sought

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after in India and Beyond by the 18th

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and 19th centuries European colonialism

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began reshaping the nature of Sino

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Indian trade the British East India

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Company played a pivotal role in

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mediating trade between the two regions

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particularly through the controversial

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opium trade the British exported opium

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grown in India to China leading to the

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infamous Opium Wars in the mid 19th

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century which severely disrupted China’s

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economy and trade relations World War II

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two significantly impacted trade between

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China and India as both countries became

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embroiled in conflicts that limited

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their ability to engage in international

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Commerce additionally the political

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upheavals in both countries such as the

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Chinese Civil War and India’s

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independence movement led to a temporary

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decline in bilateral

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trade the india-china Border dispute

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rooted in historical claims remains one

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of the most persistent geopolitical

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tensions in Asia the central issue

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revolves around the line of actual

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control or Lac a

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3,488 km undefined boundary that cuts

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across the Himalayan region this

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boundary is primarily contested in two

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major sectors axai chin in the west and

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Aruna Pradesh in the

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East the Border dispute traces back to

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the British colonial era when unclear

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surveys and differing interpretations of

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natural borders complicated territorial

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claims the McMahan line proposed in 1914

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during the Simla convention was

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recognized by India as its eastern

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boundary but China has never accepted

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this

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demarcation on the Western Front axai

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chin a Barren high altitude region

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became the focus of disputes when China

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built a strategic Road through it in the

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1950s linking Tibet to shinjang which

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India objected to the tensions escalated

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into the 1962 Sino Indian War a short

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but intense conflict that resulted in a

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decisive victory for China China

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Consolidated its control over Oxi chin

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while India retained control of the

3:04

Eastern region which China claims as

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part of its Tibet territory this war

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left a long Shadow souring bilateral

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relations for

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decades following the war relations

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remained cold with sporadic skirmishes

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along the Lac however both Nations

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agreed in the 1980s to separate the

3:25

Border issue from broader diplomatic

3:27

relations several rounds of talks and

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confidence building measures including

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protocols on Military disengagement

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helped maintain relative peace however

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the rising economic and military power

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of China in the 2000s began to shift the

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balance as China expanded its

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infrastructure and Military presence

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near the Lac tensions grew in response

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India bolstered its own border defenses

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setting the stage for increased friction

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incidents like the 2017 doam standoff

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underscored the potential for conflict

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even though both sides managed to

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deescalate a significant Turning Point

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occurred in June 2020 when Chinese and

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Indian troops clashed violently in the

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gwan valley resulting in the first

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fatalities at the Border in over four

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decades this Clash caused a fundamental

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shift in the relationship with both

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sides ramping up their military presence

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along the Lac subsequent efforts to

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disengage through diplomatic and

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Military talks have been slow and

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incremental with both sides maintaining

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a heavy heav military presence India and

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China have now as of October 21st agreed

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on a patrol Arrangement along their

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disputed border effectively ending a

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4-year military standoff India’s foreign

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minister announced on Monday this

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development paves the way for improved

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political and economic relations between

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the two major Asian Nations the

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announcement comes just before prime

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minister Narendra modi’s visit to Russia

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for the bricks Summit from October 22nd

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to 24th where he may hold discussions

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with Chinese president Xi Jinping

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according to Indian officials at an NDTV

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media conclave Indian foreign minister

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subramanyam jankar stated that the

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agreement restores the situation to how

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it was in 2020 and marks the completion

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of the disengagement process with China

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he noted that the understanding was

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reached only that day and emphasized

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that disturbing peace and Tranquility

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hinders the progress of the broader

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relationship a senior Indian military

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officer told Reuters that to to prevent

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confrontations both militaries will

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Patrol disputed border areas according

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to a mutually agreed schedule the

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officer added that both Nations will

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monitor the ladak region to ensure

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compliance and prevent any violations

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officials in New Delhi indicated that

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the agreement clears the way for a

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potential bilateral meeting between Modi

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and shei on the sidelines of the bricks

5:51

Summit which would be their first

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encounter since 2020 the military

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officer also mentioned that both sides

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will slightly withdraw their troops from

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current positions to avoid direct

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faceoffs while being allowed to patrol

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these areas according to a developing

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schedule he further added that monthly

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review meetings and consistent

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monitoring of the contested regions by

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both countries would help ensure there

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are no

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the upcoming 2024 bricks Summit has

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several significant topics on its agenda

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the primary focus will be on

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consolidating the recent expansion of

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bricks which now includes new members

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like Saudi Arabia Egypt the UAE Iran and

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Ethiopia discussions will likely revolve

6:46

around how to integrate these new

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countries and refine brics’s broader

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strategy to enhance Global cooperation

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key issues include promoting the use of

6:55

local currencies for trade among member

6:57

states as an alternative to the US

6:59

dollar

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which is part of a broader goal to

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reduce Reliance on Western Financial

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systems however this initiative is aimed

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at providing flexibility in crossborder

7:09

transactions rather than outright

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dollarization Russia in collaboration

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with the central banks of brics member

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states is actively developing a new

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settlement and payment infrastructure

7:19

designed to enable transactions in

7:21

National currencies including digital

7:24

forms this initiative is part of a

7:26

broader effort by the brics Nations to

7:28

enhance their financial autonomy and

7:30

reduce Reliance on traditional Western

7:32

controlled Financial systems which are

7:34

often vulnerable to sanctions or

7:36

external political

7:39

pressures a key aspect of this effort is

7:41

the proposed creation of a multilateral

7:44

digital settlement and payment platform

7:46

tentatively named brics bridge this

7:49

platform aims to interconnect the

7:50

financial markets of brics members

7:52

enabling more seamless trade in

7:54

financial transactions the system under

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consideration since the 201 23 brick

8:00

Summit in South Africa seeks to provide

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a resilient infrastructure that would be

8:05

immune to external interference

8:07

including sanctions which have

8:08

particularly affected countries like

8:10

Russia the concept of bricks bridge is

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seen as crucial for expanding Financial

8:15

cooperation particularly in the context

8:17

of the ongoing discussions on

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dollarization as brics countries push

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for the use of national currencies in

8:23

trade a digital platform could

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significantly enhance the efficiency and

8:28

security of these transac actions such a

8:30

system could also pave the way for the

8:32

inclusion of digital currencies such as

8:34

Central Bank digital currencies cbdcs

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into regular crossb payments at The

8:40

Summit in Kazan the development of this

8:42

independent multilateral digital

8:44

platform is expected to be a major Focus

8:47

Russian Federation Council speaker

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Valentina matvienko emphasized the

8:51

importance of this issue suggesting that

8:53

it will be a key topic of discussion the

8:56

platform represents a strategic move

8:58

toward establishing greater Financial

9:00

sovereignty among brics nations

9:02

potentially reducing their exposure to

9:04

the geopolitical risks associated with

9:06

the current Global Financial

9:10

infrastructure the bricks countries have

9:12

been working on the development of such

9:13

an alternative System since 20123 and

9:16

its potential implications are vast for

9:19

instance bricks collectively represents

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over 40% of the world’s population and

9:24

contributes approximately 25% of global

9:27

GDP making it a significant Block in

9:30

global economic Affairs the successful

9:33

implementation of a brics exclusive

9:35

Financial platform could further enhance

9:37

the group’s economic influence providing

9:39

a new model for other emerging economies

9:42

seeking alternatives to the traditional

9:43

Western Le Financial

9:46

order in addition to economic

9:48

cooperation the summit will also

9:50

emphasize reforming Global governance

9:52

institutions like the UN and Breton

9:54

Woods institutions IMF and World Bank

9:57

the block is expected to renew it calls

9:59

for restructuring these bodies to

10:01

reflect the shifting balance of power

10:04

particularly to give more voice to

10:05

emerging economies other significant

10:08

discussions will include addressing

10:09

Global challenges such as climate change

10:12

food security and energy cooperation the

10:15

establishment of a bricks payment system

10:17

enhancing supply chain resilience and

10:19

fostering scientific collaboration will

10:22

also be on the agenda the summit will

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additionally explore ways to bolster

10:26

multilateralism in an increasingly frag

10:29

segmented Global political

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landscape that’s all for this video

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we now go with our special Envoy in

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kasan junus for more information on the

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bricks plus 2024

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Summit hello good afternoon good night

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good evening from the city of Kazan In

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the Russian Federation a city that is a

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symbol for the meeting of east and west

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as it uh has a population both Christian

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represented by its churches and Muslim

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represented by its mosques but today and

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the days ahead

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Kazan will be a symbol of the global

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South because here will take place the

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bricks Summit of this year starting

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tomorrow 22nd of October and Lasting

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24th of October an important Gathering

0:47

of the countries of the global South 33

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countries will be represented of this in

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this Summit 22 of them will be

0:55

represented at the level of head of

0:58

state or head of government Prime

1:00

minister or presidential level we know

1:03

that there is a huge interest uh towards

1:06

the alliance that there are around 30

1:10

members 30 countries who think who have

1:14

expressed the will to join the alliance

1:16

and this will be the number one agenda

1:19

of this Summit actually how to relate to

1:22

these uh new members maybe establishing

1:26

a new partner State system these are

1:29

proposed proposals that will be

1:30

discussed on this Summit also as well as

1:34

concrete and Urgent uh uh requires or

1:39

demands of certain countries that want

1:41

to join the uh bricks Alliance remember

1:44

among these countries are heavyweights

1:47

of the global South such as Venezuela

1:49

and Cuba from Latin America from Africa

1:52

we have Nigeria and Kenya very populous

1:55

countries from Eurasia let’s say we have

1:58

turkey that expressed to join uh the

2:01

alliance from Asia we have Malaysia and

2:04

Indonesia that also stated that they

2:06

were interested in joining the alliance

2:08

so this will be topic one topic two in

2:12

regards to the alliance will be the

2:13

matter how will it proceed how will it

2:16

progress in terms of institutional

2:19

development right now bricks is merely

2:22

described as a forum as a gathering of

2:24

heads of state and of ministers at lower

2:27

level but there are proposals to advance

2:31

the organization the alliance more

2:33

organizationally to introduce rules of

2:35

decision making to introduce a new

2:38

formats so that the uh maybe a new

2:42

Secretariat uh also for the alliance so

2:44

that it becomes a more stable more

2:47

institutional framework deepening that

2:50

integration is the main topic in terms

2:55

of the economic sphere where we can

2:58

highlight also the other uh very famous

3:02

uh key word here

3:05

dollarization or maybe better said

3:08

creating an alternative to the Western

3:11

dominated Financial system what’s here

3:13

on the agenda the Russian Federation

3:16

which has the chairmanship of the uh

3:18

Alliance this year has presented several

3:21

proposals among them is creating a

3:24

network between National Commercial

3:27

Banks via crypto

3:30

currencies and blockchains so that these

3:33

can exchange with each other trade and

3:36

payments and establish a payment system

3:38

that so that they don’t need to uh get

3:42

to refer to the Western dominated

3:43

Financial system and look for US dollars

3:46

to finance foreign trade among

3:49

themselves but it doesn’t stop there

3:51

there are more ideas in regards to

3:54

integrating the countries with each

3:57

other there is the idea of establishing

3:59

an bricks Reserve System so that

4:03

countries that fall into a kind of

4:05

economic crisis can recur to this

4:08

Reserve System which would essentially

4:11

be an alternative to the uh Infamous

4:14

international monetary fund moreover

4:18

there is the proposal to create trading

4:21

platforms international trading

4:23

platforms for bricks countries and

4:26

others that might like to join them to

4:28

trade major Commodities such as uh grain

4:32

or also energy oil products uh mining

4:37

products these are traditionally traded

4:40

uh and sold and bought and their prices

4:43

dominated in Western financial markets

4:46

so this proposal would establish an

4:48

alternative to them not uh dominated by

4:52

Western trading exchange platforms but

4:55

by the bricks platform there are of

4:58

course also ideas on the humanitarian

5:01

and cultural level there is the idea of

5:03

deepening the interp parliamentarian

5:06

cooperation there are have been

5:08

discussions about deepening scientific

5:10

cooperation between bricks countries

5:12

energy cooperation there have been

5:15

actually this is worth mentioning a

5:18

number of summits before this

5:20

presidential Summit where Ministers of

5:23

bricks countries have gathered on the

5:25

level of economy foreign ministers

5:27

agriculture health and energy and so on

5:31

to look for uh areas and possibilities

5:33

of cooperation so these will also be

5:36

discussed here on the bricks Forum that

5:39

lasts until October 24 but the alliance

5:44

does not close its eyes to the current

5:46

Global conflicts which dominate the

5:48

agenda such as the war in Ukraine or the

5:52

Israeli aggression against Palestine so

5:56

these will also be dealt with in

5:58

sessions we heard that there will be a

6:00

session for Palestine separately and

6:03

it’s worth here remembering that the

6:06

Palestinian president Mahmud abas uh has

6:09

arrived in to Russia he has met

6:12

yesterday uh with Vladimir Putin the

6:15

Russian president who has invited mahud

6:18

apas to join the bricks Summit as well

6:21

so bricks will not only uh deal with its

6:24

own institutional and organizational

6:26

agenda deepening institutional uh or

6:30

integration deepening economic

6:32

integration creating an alternative to

6:35

the Western dominated Financial system

6:37

advancing dollarization it will also

6:40

seek to uh uh develop common positions

6:44

on current global conflict issues these

6:48

will be the days where the global South

6:50

will meet here in the Russian city of

6:53

Kazan and as a Russian politician has

6:56

stated in my eyes correctly the future

6:59

of humanity will not be dominated by the

7:02

US elections but by the outcomes of this

7:06

Summit

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and now moving to the Caribbean where in

0:01

a bold move to further solidify its

0:04

Global standing Cuba has requested to

0:07

join the bricks Nations as a partner

0:09

country Cuba’s foreign minister revealed

0:11

in an announcement that the Caribbean

0:13

nation has submitted an official letter

0:15

to Russia’s Vladimir Putin Who currently

0:18

holds the brics presidency brics known

0:20

for its Collective of emerging economies

0:23

including Brazil Russia India China and

0:26

South Africa have positioned itself as a

0:29

counter way to the Western dominated

0:31

World Order and this year the

0:33

organization welcomed new members

0:35

including Egypt Ethiopia Iran and the

0:38

United Arab Emirates marking its first

0:40

expansion since South Africa’s entry in

0:45

2010 we cannot ignore the increasing

0:47

interest in bricks from many countries

0:50

today more than 30 countries

0:52

specifically 34 have expressed a desire

0:54

to join our Union in one form or another

0:57

therefore an active discussion has been

0:59

initiated ated among all bricks

1:01

participants regarding the modalities

1:03

for a new category of partner

1:08

States now Cuba’s latest request for a

1:11

partner country status comes after its

1:13

un unsuccessful bid for full membership

1:16

back in 2023 unlike full membership this

1:19

status allows countries to collaborate

1:21

closely with bricks without becoming a

1:23

formal member it’s an alternative path

1:26

for countries in the global South a

1:28

group that increasingly sees bricks as

1:30

an attractive block to align

1:35

with I am convinced that the bricks

1:38

countries are capable of jointly making

1:40

a serious contribution to ensuring

1:41

Global Security and countering such

1:43

threats as terrorism the spread of

1:45

extremist activity transnational crime

1:48

and the use of information and

1:50

communication Technologies for criminal

1:54

purposes the bricks Spirit of mutual

1:57

respect and understanding

2:00

solidarity equality openness

2:04

inclusiveness and

2:06

consensus remains our Guiding Light as

2:10

we deliberate today on many crucial

2:15

issues for Cuba the move aligns with the

2:18

broader geopolitical strategy ties

2:20

between Havana and Moscow have deepened

2:22

in recent years and the two Nations have

2:24

found Common Ground amid Washington’s

2:26

efforts to isolate them whether through

2:29

sanctions or political opposition just a

2:31

few short months ago Russian warships

2:34

made a brief stop in Cuba signaling

2:37

their shared Defiance toward the United

2:39

States this request to join bricks as a

2:41

partner underscores Cuba’s intent to

2:43

play a more significant role on the

2:46

international stage all the while

2:48

nurturing its long-standing relationship

2:50

with

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an alliance representing more than 1/4

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Mahala Russia is set to host its biggest

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foreign policy event ever leaders

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representing more than 40% of the

0:45

world’s population are assembling in the

0:47

southwestern city of Kazan the 16th

0:49

bricks Summit will have five new members

0:53

doubling the group strength to 10

0:55

leaders from several other countries are

0:57

also attending some of them like turkey

0:59

and Malaysia have already applied to

1:02

join the growing Alliance the event

1:04

gives President Vladimir Putin an

1:06

opportunity to signal to the West that

1:08

he has not been isolated because of the

1:10

war in Ukraine it’s also an occasion for

1:13

other member states to amplify their

1:15

voices and policies so what’s behind the

1:18

rapid expansion of this block and can it

1:20

become a challenge to the existing

1:22

Global Order we’ll get to our guests in

1:25

a moment but first this report from um

1:27

Kum Sharif

1:31

the Russian city of Kazan is preparing

1:33

to host the 16th annual bricks Summit

1:36

it’s the Block’s first meeting with five

1:38

new members as it doubles its membership

1:41

to 10 in less than two decades of its

1:44

existence many say its expansion shows

1:47

its growing Global importance bricks is

1:50

the is the voice of the global South

1:53

Global South in these multilateral

1:55

platforms um where the West dominate

1:58

really bricks can take us out of that

2:02

bricks was set up in 2006 with a desire

2:05

to be a geopolitical counterweight to

2:07

the West Brazil Russia China and India

2:11

were the founding members since then

2:14

it’s expanded to include South Africa in

2:16

2010 and Egypt Iran Ethiopia Saudi

2:20

Arabia and the United Arab Emirates were

2:23

invited to join the block last year

2:26

while Riyad is yet to formally confirm

2:28

several other countries have applied for

2:31

membership the beauty of bricks is that

2:35

it doesn’t put you put too many

2:38

obligations on you right there are not

2:41

that many strings attached really for

2:42

being part of the bricks and at the same

2:45

time there might be interesting

2:46

opportunities coming your way including

2:49

just having more face down with all of

2:51

these

2:52

leaders the meeting comes at a time when

2:55

Russia is stepping up its attacks in

2:56

Ukraine and while President Vladimir

2:59

Putin faces an arrest warrant for war

3:01

crimes issued by the international

3:04

criminal court last year bricks when

3:07

mosca wants to present the summit as

3:09

evidence that Western efforts to isolate

3:12

it have failed ahead of the summit Putin

3:16

said bricks and not the West will drive

3:18

global economic

3:21

growth the total GDP of the bricks

3:24

Association is more than 60 trillion and

3:26

the total share of the global gross

3:28

product confident exceeds that of the

3:30

So-Cal G7 countries and it continues to

3:34

grow Russia also wants other countries

3:37

to work with it to overall the Global

3:40

Financial system and end the dominance

3:43

of the US

3:44

dollar bricks is perceived as an

3:46

alternative to the dollar system it

3:48

offers some alternative ways of carrying

3:50

out economic and financial transactions

3:53

Russia proposes to use some kind of new

3:55

currency which could allow National

3:57

currencies to be converted into to a new

4:00

unit of payment it will reportedly be

4:02

digital

4:04

money Putin has also invited Palestinian

4:07

president Mahmud Abbas to the summit

4:09

where Israel’s war on Gaza is expected

4:12

to be discussed the Russian leader has

4:15

reaffirmed his government support for

4:17

the two-state

4:19

solution ulum Sharif Al jazer for Inside

4:23

Story

4:31

let’s bring in our guest in Moscow Andre

4:34

federov former deputy foreign minister

4:37

of Russia in tahan Hassan ahmedan

4:40

professor at the University of tahan who

4:42

specializes in Iranian foreign policy in

4:46

Herford in the UK Mark sidden director

4:49

of the center for United Nations studies

4:51

at the University of Buckingham and was

4:53

a veteran un correspondent welcome to

4:55

the program Andre is it the sense in

4:58

Russia that bricks has all it takes to

5:02

become a key geopolitical

5:07

player I would like to say that in

5:09

Moscow by Russian President Putin this

5:13

Summit of bricks is considering as a

5:15

turning point towards creation of

5:18

multipolar

5:20

world of course uh the idea to make

5:23

bricks as a serious political player is

5:26

important but at the same time it’s a

5:29

contrad

5:30

with its original goal to make it

5:33

effective economic mechanism and there

5:35

is a situation when some of the

5:38

countries like India are against soal

5:43

mechanical enlargement of bricks uh

5:46

being afraid that uh political side of

5:50

bricks will be prevailing so that’s why

5:54

it’s very important to find that this uh

5:57

Summit coming Summit balance between

5:59

Poli interests and economic

6:02

realities Hassan when you listen to

6:05

Iranian officials over the last few

6:08

years they’ve been always saying that we

6:10

need something that could serve as a

6:11

counterweight to the dominance of the

6:14

western uh key players and the Americans

6:17

could this moment be the moment that the

6:19

Iranians have been waiting for for many

6:22

years I think that’s exactly what the

6:25

Iranians are speaking of looking at

6:28

bricks as a organization outside the US

6:32

sphere of influence and its domination

6:34

and that gives it strategic weight in

6:38

Iran’s thinking uh it gives Iran

6:41

opportunities the potential that it

6:43

carries economically politically and uh

6:47

uh financially gives Iran opportunities

6:50

to break out of the bux that the United

6:52

States has been trying with its Western

6:55

allies to box Iran in uh uh so the the

6:59

reality that the organization is out of

7:03

the uh domination of the United States

7:07

it’s uh beyond the US so-called us Le

7:11

World Order uh is of strategic

7:14

importance to Teran and the Iranians

7:16

have been vocal about it on an official

7:18

level they have been trying to seize

7:22

this opportunity and the different

7:25

layers that it provides Iran with be

7:27

economic Financial and uh politically uh

7:31

as a way of channeling their uh policies

7:35

uh and in with regards to uh the bricks

7:38

States but also with regards to other

7:41

issues of uh importance to Iran and its

7:43

foreign policy VI the Middle East or

7:46

other regions uh they have been also

7:48

using the podium and political capacity

7:51

that it provides to their priorities as

7:55

well Mark you youve spent many years

7:58

covering the UN now you people in this

8:00

part of the world in particular about

8:02

the US they will tell you the their bias

8:04

is more pronounced than ever you would

8:05

ask them about the UN they will tell you

8:07

one of the most inefficient

8:08

organizations in the world could this

8:11

perception serve as a a trigger for many

8:14

countries to say you know what in bricks

8:16

we could have a genuine alternative to a

8:19

failing International World

8:22

Order well yes I mean I I obviously I

8:24

covered the UN as a journalist but I

8:26

also worked for Secretary General

8:28

banking Moon so I’ve been for enough

8:30

really to see things on on both sides

8:32

and I think it’s not too difficult to

8:34

see right now that the paralysis in the

8:37

UN Security Council principally over

8:40

Israel right now and uh the the the

8:43

ceasefire motions that have kept been

8:46

vetoed repeatedly by uh the the United

8:49

States and of course the also the Russia

8:52

Ukraine war all of these issues have

8:55

paralyzed the UN so it’s not necessarily

8:57

the un’s fault uh it’s the it’s the

8:59

fault of the member states that saying I

9:02

mean I think that the many countries in

9:05

the west don’t quite appreciate how they

9:07

are currently viewed in the global South

9:11

uh and that this paralysis at the

9:13

UN also feeds through to this perception

9:17

that really um Western countries are

9:19

being incredibly hypocritical on the one

9:21

hand calling for Russia to end its war

9:24

in Ukraine but the on the other hand to

9:26

continue supplying Israel with all the

9:28

weapons it may wish for what is clearly

9:31

a genocide in the Palestinian territory

9:33

so I mean there I looked at the West the

9:36

British press this morning there’s very

9:38

little mention of bricks but that does

9:40

show you something of the uh the way in

9:43

which Western media tends to be very

9:45

inward looking um but to my mind it

9:48

needs to wake up because there is a

9:50

reaction against this idea of a unipolar

9:52

world uh and the global South uh is fed

9:56

up of being lectured to um and it wants

10:00

to have its own organizations and good

10:02

luck to it Andre the many people all

10:06

over the world are frustrated with the

10:09

world order but yet they are to see

10:13

bricks achieve what they’re hoping to

10:15

see happen in the near future could you

10:17

give me an idea about what could be the

10:20

first issue that bricks should tackle

10:23

and succeed in bringing about a tangible

10:26

result for people to start finally say

10:29

We Trust

10:31

bricks uh first of all bricks should

10:34

solve uh serious economic problems in

10:38

this modern world it’s a problems of

10:41

equal trade issue of sanctions and many

10:44

other things if bricks will be capable

10:47

to do something in economic life for

10:51

example in the future to create not

10:54

maybe own currency but own economic uh

10:58

Financial system Sy which will be stable

11:01

uh for from outside world interference

11:05

it could uh lead also to Growing

11:09

political influence of bricks so

11:13

economic issues should be on the front

11:16

page of bricks in the coming future

11:20

without it nothing will be

11:23

done Hassan for the Iranians who face

11:26

huge geopolitical challenges

11:29

uh these days with the Americans with

11:32

the Israelis their allies in the region

11:34

have been suffering major setbacks could

11:37

bricks serve as a key Ally that could

11:40

stand with Iran if it faces more and

11:43

more challenges particularly against the

11:45

backdrop of the Israeli

11:49

response the uh Western dominated

11:52

organizations that as as previous

11:55

speakers have pointed out have been very

11:57

hypocritical when it comes to issues in

12:00

the region including when it comes to

12:03

Iran and they they deal with other

12:06

issues that are more linked to their

12:08

security differently such as the

12:10

Ukrainian issue so for the Iranians

12:13

having been uh at the receiving end of

12:17

uh us sanctions unilateral sanctions as

12:21

opposed to a uh International uh

12:24

sanctions that existed before the

12:26

nuclear deal uh Iran is better up with

12:29

this uh us-led so-called World Order and

12:33

uh it’s it’s seeking any opportunity and

12:36

obviously the bricks provides a big

12:39

opportunity for Iran to deal with issues

12:42

that the United States and the West

12:44

Collective West has try have tried to

12:47

push Iran out of for the Iranians it’s

12:50

it’s important to uh look at the uh uh

12:54

the potentialities that this

12:56

organizations uh is this organization

12:58

bring about uh also it’s important uh to

13:02

see the opportunities that are provided

13:05

by it economically and financially uh

13:08

taking sanctions into account also it’s

13:11

important to look at it from a security

13:14

perspective knowing that the United

13:16

States has been supporting uh a

13:19

full-fledged War by the Israelis on Gaza

13:23

and Lebanon and potentially attacks on

13:26

Iran the Iranians also look at

13:29

organizations such as the bricks to

13:32

balance off that unilaterally the

13:34

unilaterality unilaterality that the

13:37

United States is basically uh infusing

13:40

the world system Mark isn’t it a little

13:44

bit naive to think that bricks could

13:47

become a genuine voice of the voiceless

13:50

when you have two key members of this

13:52

Alliance the Russians or the Chinese

13:54

obviously seeing this as a tool to

13:56

expand their geopolitical Leverage

13:59

well that may be but I but I also

14:01

noticed that bricks is attracting lots

14:03

of uh new member countries lots of

14:06

countries want to join it I think there

14:08

does seem to be uh a desire also to look

14:11

beyond the kind of uh free market hyper

14:15

liberalism of the of the of the American

14:17

and the British the anglo-american

14:19

capitalistic model if you like I mean

14:22

it’s just not working um so there’s that

14:25

uh there’s the economic alternative

14:27

that’s coming and especially from the

14:29

global South for the from the emerging

14:31

Powers Brazil South Africa and others

14:33

but also I think it you know you’ve got

14:35

to also look at what’s happening in the

14:37

in the what people Loosely call the West

14:40

I mean it’s quite possible we may have a

14:42

trump presidency in a month’s time which

14:45

will of course alarm an awful lot of the

14:47

European governments um I don’t think

14:50

that many of the European governments I

14:52

mean almost going back slightly to what

14:54

I was saying before but can quite

14:56

appreciate how isolated they have become

14:59

come made themselves become because of

15:02

their stance principally over what is

15:04

happening in Gaza and also now in

15:07

Lebanon um and so this this constant

15:11

support for whatever American foreign

15:14

and defense policy May dictate is not

15:16

helping them at all and so there is this

15:19

reaction I think against the unipolar

15:21

world very much Andre you spoke about

15:25

the the economic Factor as a as a

15:28

defining issue for Brick do you think

15:30

that the proposal by the Russians to

15:32

start with a grain trading exchange as

15:35

the first step that if successful it

15:38

could convince people to move forward

15:41

towards putting together more financial

15:44

mechanisms that could serve as

15:46

alternative to the similar organizations

15:49

such as the uh the international

15:52

monetary

15:53

fund yes it’s one of the goals and

15:56

Russia is supporting this idea to have

15:59

within Brick’s own stable Financial

16:02

system which cannot be uh disturbed by

16:06

any sanctions but by any foreign

16:10

interference

16:11

and which can uh really uh develop first

16:15

of all trade with the use of local

16:17

currencies of national currencies

16:19

without using of US dollar uh it’s long

16:23

process don’t expect that it will happen

16:26

overnight uh but this process uh

16:29

is on the way Hassan when it comes to

16:33

the Middle East in particular members

16:36

are not really see eye to eye when it

16:38

comes to how to move forward could

16:40

bricks today become a tool to enforce

16:44

for example ceasefire in the region

16:47

could influence geopolitical decisions

16:49

could put an end to the instability or

16:51

is it a long way to go before we get to

16:53

that

16:54

point I think it’s a long way uh

16:57

basically the bricks is not a monolith

17:00

obviously there are countries with

17:02

closed eyes to the West parties to the

17:04

bricks but there are those Rising powers

17:07

and there are those who are sanctioned

17:09

there are these this group basically is

17:13

uh uh the the the the party that is

17:17

pushing for a parallel uh mechanism to

17:20

deal with crisis that includes Russia

17:23

Iran and to a large extent China uh

17:26

others don’t want maybe to risk their

17:28

relations in you know getting so close

17:32

to the uh uh you know the idea of a

17:36

parallel order but these countries have

17:38

a common view on how uh things should

17:42

change in not only the Middle East but

17:45

around the world in the Middle East the

17:47

uh uh you know the so-called rules based

17:49

system did not work if

17:52

anything the main pillars of it the

17:57

United States in the West the West that

18:00

established it have helped and aided

18:02

Israel in its uh in its atrocities uh in

18:06

Gaza in Lebanon and elsewhere in the

18:08

region and uh no matter what they did

18:10

what the Israelis did they they kept

18:13

receiving what they needed to do what

18:14

they were doing and still they are doing

18:17

so so that that is is something that is

18:21

uh uh not working basically these

18:23

countries are thinking about something

18:25

parallel that can change the equation

18:28

change many of the parameters that have

18:30

blocked the effectiveness of the

18:32

International System and I think that’s

18:34

a huge goal that cannot happen very

18:37

easily it’s not a shortterm goal there

18:40

are huge challenges there is the uh the

18:43

the the competition between the

18:46

collective West and the bricks as well

18:48

that will we will see more unfolding in

18:51

in the future so there are lots of

18:53

challenges but steps have been taken and

18:56

I think it’s moving

19:00

Mark yes you talk to people and they

19:02

will tell you that the un’s veto power

19:06

is not fairly utilized it’s there just

19:09

to advance the agenda of the powerful

19:11

countries that the security Council has

19:13

never been genuine about the need to

19:16

change things on the ground but yet you

19:19

get a sense that these are mechanisms

19:21

that can

19:24

operate when it comes to Bricks you

19:26

don’t really get a sense of clarity

19:27

about the tools they have to have to

19:31

implement new realities on the ground

19:34

that if they decide tomorrow let’s solve

19:35

this particular problem how can we do

19:38

it well I I can I can see that amongst

19:42

many member many bricks member states

19:44

there’s also a commonality of view about

19:46

what needs to happen with the United

19:48

Nations it’s not power of the veto per

19:51

se it’s how it’s being abused and I have

19:54

to say that over the past two to three

19:56

years um Russia has used the veto a

19:59

great deal America has used The veto a

20:01

great deal America has been backed up by

20:04

my country Britain um I think if the if

20:07

bricks countries can come together and

20:10

push for the desperately needed un

20:13

reform then the bricks are certainly on

20:15

to something um because not only are

20:18

many bricks member states talking about

20:20

a different world economic order but

20:23

once they start talking about a

20:24

different political and security order

20:27

we’re on to something in many many ways

20:29

and I think that un reform is key the

20:32

fact for instance that there’s no

20:35

African member state that is a me

20:38

Permanent member of the security Council

20:40

it’s the same for Latin America we we

20:42

know how it looks and what has got to

20:44

change the UN is fixed as it was in

20:48

1945 with the defeat of Nazi Germany

20:51

well it’s time for change and I think

20:54

that we’re increasingly seeing much

20:56

stronger and and actually empowered

20:59

voices and most certainly what we’re

21:01

seeing in the Middle East more than

21:03

anything is empowering people and by the

21:06

way I think when it comes to the general

21:08

public in especially in Europe they take

21:12

a very different view over many of these

21:14

issues than their governments and so

21:16

this idea that just because the Western

21:18

press is not interested in reporting on

21:20

bricks that somehow people in my country

21:23

are not happy to see members of the

21:26

global South and other countries coming

21:28

together and and actually challenging

21:30

some of these Western nostrums I think I

21:33

think a lot of people do support them

21:35

Andre this is not the first time that

21:37

someone came out and said we need to

21:40

change reality on the ground the

21:42

non-alliance movement in the 60s and the

21:45

70s appealed to many people because it

21:47

was widely perceived to be as a

21:49

challenge to the prevailing world order

21:52

but it failed because some of his ideas

21:55

were so farfetched how can you maintain

21:58

bricks attractive when

22:01

ultimately you don’t have a bank you

22:03

don’t have a currency you don’t have a

22:06

common fund you don’t have a sense of

22:09

unity that could you could sell to the

22:13

people uh first of all I would like to

22:15

say that bricks will never be

22:18

replacement for United Nations MH and I

22:22

fully agree that bricks can influence on

22:25

the possible reform within the United

22:28

United Nations especially

22:31

concerning security uh

22:34

Council but as I said for bricks it’s

22:36

very important to create serious Network

22:39

real Network which includes Financial

22:42

mechanism communication system system of

22:46

consultations and many many things

22:48

bricks should not be organization of

22:52

summits uh bricks should be organization

22:55

of concrete projects which is still uh

22:58

not the case bricks needs a number of

23:02

serious

23:03

Global projects especially economic

23:06

project to uh identify itself as

23:10

effective organization but not only as a

23:13

as I

23:14

said uh organization of

23:18

summits Hassan H how do the Iranians see

23:21

the future of bricks when it expands is

23:25

it going to be the platform that they

23:27

have been looking forward to seeing put

23:30

into place that could respond to some of

23:32

their grievances concerns about their

23:35

position and their place in the on the

23:37

global

23:39

Arena that’s definitely is the case for

23:42

the Iranians as I said uh you know the

23:45

unilateral sanctions the unilateral

23:48

actions uh on the part of the United

23:50

States and his allies in the region

23:52

these Iran violating the nuclear deal

23:56

that was part of the international law

23:58

because it was ratified by the United

24:00

Nations uh Security Council all of that

24:04

told the Iranians that

24:06

uh I mean that order has failed Iran

24:10

Iranians have been trying to uh uh you

24:13

know further their agenda and their

24:15

policy within that framework to this day

24:18

but still they are seeing opportunities

24:20

coming up as a result of uh you know the

24:24

other countries uh facing the same

24:27

challenges that Iran has space Visa the

24:29

United States and the West Russia now is

24:32

under immense sanctions Iran is under

24:35

sanctions China has seen its share and I

24:38

think moving forward we’ll see more uh

24:41

this creates the club of the sanction

24:44

that is a huge club and uh economics

24:49

geopolitics uh and uh you know other

24:53

aspects can be dealt with collectively

24:56

within this framework but you know uh uh

25:00

not to exaggerate it is important

25:02

because uh even Regional organizations

25:05

such as the uh European Union it took it

25:09

took four decades for it to have a

25:12

common cency and lots of issues uh are

25:16

still to be resolved within parties that

25:20

are member to the bricks to move to a

25:23

more coherent Vision as to where things

25:25

should move but all in all I think there

25:28

is this that common rather broad you

25:32

know Common vision

25:35

of reforming the un uh tackling issues

25:40

beyond the west and I have one last

25:43

question if you don’t

25:44

mind okay Mark uh bricks resonates among

25:49

left-leaning governments particularly in

25:51

Africa and Latin America when

25:55

governments there turn right or

25:57

conservatives I don’t think they were

25:59

willing to do anything that could be

26:01

seen as an affront or a challenge to the

26:03

Americans so do you think that this

26:04

could undermine the chances for bricks

26:07

to stand solid in the

26:10

future well I don’t know I I I suspect

26:13

you know you talk about the European

26:14

Union um as our as our our colleague in

26:17

Teran was just doing there I mean

26:19

essentially you’ve got lots of different

26:22

political Persuasions running European

26:24

countries and most countries apart from

26:26

of course mine which left uh seem to be

26:29

quite happy to be within the EU large

26:31

organizations have got to be constructed

26:34

really to to be big enough for all of

26:36

their members and to take account of the

26:38

different types of government they may

26:40

have but there’s a commonality of

26:41

Interest we’ve talked about some of this

26:44

when it comes to the United Nations um

26:47

the rule of international law all of

26:49

these things that actually came out of

26:51

the end of the second world war that our

26:54

grandparents fought so hard to establish

26:57

um are now being sort of ripped ripped

27:01

up in front of us and so I think there

27:03

there are many countries around the

27:05

world looking for a new kind of

27:08

stability in terms of peace and security

27:10

they don’t see necessarily America as an

27:13

honest broker in the mid East anymore uh

27:16

and they also look at the economic model

27:19

that we’ve had for the past 40 50 years

27:22

and also since the collapse of um of the

27:25

Soviet Union and which which generated

27:27

an even faster rush to an extreme free

27:31

market kind of model that does not

27:33

really suit uh most countries and so

27:36

there’s a lot

27:37

of opportunities for change I

27:40

think Mark sidan Hassan ahmedan Andre

27:43

federova really appreciate your Insight

27:46

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27:49

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