Scott Ritter interview with Oleg Shalandin! September 23, 2024
Here is the English-only version of today’s stream with Oleg Shalandin and @RealScottRitter
(http://scottritter.com). It’s really East meets West, as Lieutenant Colonel in Reserve, Oleg Shalandin, a figure in Russian military analysis, sits down with everyone’s favorite weapons inspector, Scott Ritter, to discuss the important issues of the day, involving the USA, Russia, and beyond!
Topics discussed:
– Possibilities of nuclear war Russia vs US
– Crisis in the Middle East – American elections
– Who is Scott going to vote for in November (I loved the answer, really!)
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Transkription: (https://eastcalling.substack.com/p/scott-ritter-interview-with-oleg)
We linked up with the Ruskies at the Elb River. I hung around for a couple of days with a Tommy gunner named Konnikov. He didn’t know any English, so I taught him to say my Aiken back, and he taught me Tavares. That means comrade.
We have shown special footage of meeting on Elbe River because I thought it will be a good idea. I will be translating because we are like bilingual stream today. Okay, Oleg, so you have questions for Scott because we have a lot to discuss.
Scott, I will put your interview which you gave to judge Napolitano because Oleg was referring to it.
The role they play, the Pentagon knows that you can’t attack Russia without American fingers touching it. And they say we don’t want to be a party to this conflict because we trust the Russians when they say there will be consequences. They’ll take out Kiev, but then they’re going to take out sites in England,
in Brussels, in Germany, and in the United States. And they made it clear, this is going to happen instantly. The decisions have already been made. We will automatically do it. You can’t stop it. So I’m trying to emphasize this point, Judge, because on Saturday morning, every American got up and went off and did their business.
We almost all died on Saturday. Had Biden said not, we’re going to do it, we’d all be dead right now.
I think this is a very emotional piece and this is very touching and this resonates a lot, really. And we have such a question. So what did you, how did you came up to the conclusion that this is exactly what is going to happen if American administration allows Ukraine to strike deep within Russian territory?
Well, I didn’t come up with it. The Russian government came up with it. Vladimir Putin on Thursday night said that if this happens, if Ukraine uses British-made storm shadows or American-made attackams that are targeted only, and President Putin pointed this out, they can only be used using information that has been provided to them by the United States,
by NATO, and the technical characteristics of the weapons are such that it can only be loaded into the weapons by NATO or American hands. He said, you will become a party to the conflict with all that that means. I tend to believe the Russian president when he speaks. Maybe there’s some people who don’t believe him.
But when he says you will become a party to the conflict and all the consequences that accrue from that, I tend to believe that that means that we become part of a war and that Russia will respond. Now, He said that on Thursday, but on Friday, Joe Biden still was meeting with Keir Starmer, the British prime minister,
who brought a package of documents that included America signing off on the storm shadow British missile being used against Russian targets. Not just for approval. I think everybody knows. You remember, look, we know because the Russians intercepted a German consultation online. where the Germans were talking about the Taurus missile and how Germany would have
to be involved in the targeting of the Taurus missile. And the German said, the British are already in Ukraine doing this. They’re already in Ukraine doing this. Every time the storm shadow is fired by Ukraine, the British loaded the targets in it. Those targets can only be developed by the United States.
And so the United States is already providing the British with the targets that they load into the storm shadow and they fire against the Russians. But right now it’s limited to Crimea. It’s limited to the Donbas, to Zaporizhzhia and Kherson. They haven’t fired against Russia proper yet, but the British are already there doing this.
So when I say to you that Keir Starmer had the target list already approved, asking the President of the United States to sign off on it, the British are already in Ukraine, they would have launched those missiles Friday night. That’s 100% guaranteed. On Friday, because Biden was having this meeting, the Russians interjected at least two more times.
One was the Russian ambassador to the United Nations. who in a session of the Security Council, underscoring the importance of this, basically said that if Biden signs this document and the British fire the storm shadows, it will be an act of war. NATO will become a party to the conflict. And then to back this up,
the Russian ambassador to the United States, Anatoly Antonov, gave a press conference, or he spoke to, I think it was Rossiya Dvatsichita,
And he said, you know, the United States operates under this impression that this conflict will be limited to Europe and that even a nuclear conflict would be limited to Europe, that the United States can sit back and rest easy because it won’t be touched. He said any conflict will touch the United States,
that if the United States does this, their fingers will be burned. Don’t play with fire. These two statements are alarming because it shows the seriousness of which Russia is warning the United States and Europe not to do this. And Sergei Lavrov followed up. He said, we don’t want a nuclear war. But he said,
we have the weapons right now on operational readiness to be fired right now that will destroy Kiev and by extension, any other party to the conflict. Now, these aren’t nuclear weapons, I don’t believe. These are conventional weapons of a strategic nature. It’s hypothesis on my part, but I would believe that these are probably, you know, the Kinzals,
the Zircons, the Avant-Garde. These are all weapons that can do extreme damage with non-nuclear weapons. Now, this is where it gets complicated. Interesting, because this is where I think Russia is miscalculating. You see, Russia thinks that they have every right to. If you’re a party to the conflict, you’re a party to the conflict.
And if you want to join the conflict, you pay the price. Russia thinks that it can strike Ukraine decisively and hit targets in the United Kingdom and NATO with conventional munitions, strategic in nature, but conventional, and limit the conflict. But what will happen automatically is that NATO will strike Russia using its conventional strategic strike capabilities.
And this will be devastating to Russia, just like the Russian attack will be devastating. And then Russia will respond with even more conventional actions that will threaten NATO existentially. And when that happens, and this is where Russia I think is miscalculated. The United States will preemptively strike Russia with nuclear weapons. That’s our doctrine.
That’s how we’ve organized ourselves. If you threaten NATO existentially, if you strike the United States conventionally, we will carry out a preemptive nuclear attack against Russia. Not, I used to think it was escalate to deescalate that we would use one or two low yield nuclear weapons, but that’s not our doctrine.
Our doctrine is to strategically strike Russia preemptively to destroy Russia’s strategic nuclear capabilities, their missiles and their silos, et cetera, in an effort to weaken Russia so much that Russia will surrender without striking. Now, this is where we miscalculate because Russia won’t surrender. They will strike us with their strategic nuclear capabilities.
And then we all die, which is what I said would happen in a second. And this will happen This quick. It’s not going to be phone calls, talking. Decisions have been made. Doctrines are in order. It is automatic. Once the storm shadow is launched against Russia,
it begins a sequence of events that inevitably ends with the destruction of the world. That’s why I said what I said.
I accept that Putin decides what the rest of the world should do. He is the only one responsible for a war going on in Europe. He could end this war right now. Right now.
So I think this lady is quite delusional about that somebody would listen to what she thinks in general, because the decision will be made on another level, and I think that level will not include Europe in any case.
friends, I have seen in the media on the TV channel Zvezda, which is included in Russian Ministry of Defense, like, yeah, it’s official, TV Zvezda is the official channel for Russian Ministry of Defense, and they have recently shown footage of… It is a polygon which was used for nuclear test. It is now not in use.
It is like on storage. But I think Alex thinks that showing this on TV was a clear sign that nuclear test can be restarted at any moment. And the very fact that they show it, it means that they are ready to start tests. Scott, what do you think?
Is this raising of stakes has any effect on voting campaign in the US? So maybe they raised the stakes in the Ukrainian case to have some effect on presidential elections?
I don’t think we’re going to play I mean, there’s always games that are played and there’s things that can be done to influence elections. We tend to primarily focus on domestic because we can control this much more. It’s very dangerous for a politician to think, as Oleg knows, you can’t control war. You can’t control combat.
Once it starts, it’s opening Pandora’s box. It goes wherever it wants to. So any politician who thinks, oh, if I gin up trouble here, I can control that to my favor and get a favorable outcome in the election is stupid. And most logical people would not do that. So I think we can talk about emphasizing policies.
that will be tougher on Iran or will be tougher on Russia, will be tougher on China. But the idea that we would actually start a war or start a conflict to influence the election, I don’t think so, because you can’t control it. And today,
given the fact that the United States is no longer the dominant military power in the world, and given the fact that a conflict could have immediate detrimental economic impact, and in America, As people should know, it’s the economy, stupid. That’s what makes Americans vote, the economy.
And so if you go to war with Iran to try and look tough, but then the price of oil goes through the roof and everybody loses their jobs, you’re going to lose the election. Nobody cares about looking tough. They only care that they can’t afford to heat their homes and fuel their cars.
So I don’t think we have to worry about people doing things to influence an election, I am worried about policies that are out of control. And right now, our Ukraine policy is out of control. It’s like a nuclear reactor when the control rods are moved up. You start getting this reaction. It moves towards critical mass.
And if you don’t insert the control rods, it’s going to go. But you don’t want to insert the control rods because people will say you’re weak. And I think with Ukraine, we have a policy that’s out of control. And so that’s why Biden feels temptation to sign.
But he’s not signing because he wants to look trough against Russia. He’s signing because he’s afraid of looking weak against Russia. And I think there’s a difference between that. One is reactive in nature. The other is proactive. And I’m more worried about the reaction that we do here because of perceptions of
And here we are moving to Middle Eastern conflict where Netanyahu is desperately trying to drag US and NATO. It turns out that if US doesn’t sign up to participate in this conflict, it will turn out that Biden will lose his face if he doesn’t succumb to Netanyahu. What do you think about that?
It’s a dangerous game that’s being played. But again, the consequences of a Middle East conflict, a broader Middle East conflict are well known to the United States and it will be It’ll be an economic disaster for the United States from an energy security standpoint, et cetera. And Biden can’t survive.
He has not made a case to the American people that we need to intervene on the side of Israel. In fact, everything Biden has been doing has been saying that we don’t want to intervene in an aggressive war, that it’s against American interests.
so you can’t in a very short period of time suddenly flip the script and say no now we have to side with israel especially when it’s israel who is emerging as the bad guy in this conflict uh with you know accusations of genocide um indictments of war
crimes um acts of terror the the pager attack that’s an act of terrorism there’s no other way to describe it um and so I don’t I don’t see Israel succeeding in this campaign to drag the United States into this conflict. What I what I do see, though, is that it shows a weak president.
But I think Biden will opt to divert the attention of the American public away from his weakness by continuing to provide Israel with weaponry and money and saying we’re supporting Israel. but limiting what the United States is willing to do militarily to simply defending Israel against attacks, not participating in a broader war against Iran or Hezbollah.
Okay, and there is a question again about Middle East. So since October 7, Israel is continuing their operation in Gaza Strip and it has practically destroyed Gaza to dust. And at the same time, our countrymen, people with Russian citizenship are held hostages with Hamas. What does Netanyahu look like in the American eyes now?
Is he a person who provokes? Because he looks like a bad guy, but what is your opinion about him and how can he look in the eyes of American lights now?
I’ll answer the second part first. I think it’s clear that the There’s a very strong pro-Israeli lobby here in the United States, one that operates externally, putting pressure on the United States from Israel, and the other one that operates internally, drawing upon segments of American society that are very supportive of Israel.
This can be Jewish Americans, this can be Christian Americans. Evangelical Christians are amongst Israel’s staunchest supporters because of their belief in the rapture and the end of the world, and it can’t happen without Armageddon, and you can’t have Armageddon without Israel. It’s crazy. I’m sorry, I shouldn’t speak ill of people’s religious beliefs,
but anybody that’s encouraging the world to end to me is crazy. And so those people who are blind in terms of their support of Israel view Benjamin Netanyahu as a strong leader who’s been confronted with extremely difficult tasks, whose nation is under attack from Hamas and Hezbollah and the Houthi and such. And
And so they will support him. And it doesn’t matter what he does, because if you are a blind supporter of Netanyahu, that means that you agree with Israel when they speak of the Palestinian people as being animals, less than human. And so you turn a blind-eyed accusation of genocide. You say, no, these are terrorists. They’re all terrorists.
They all support terrorism. They aren’t deservant of the protections of international law, etc., And there’s a significant segment of American society, including those who are heavily concentrated in the political and economic elite of America who support this. There are many people who are supportive of the state of Israel who don’t like Benjamin Netanyahu,
view him as a negative influence for Israel. And, you know, but they’re opposition to netanyahu is couched by the fact that they will never align themselves with a palestinian cause or the cause of hamas and so they’ve been effectively neutered because they’re afraid to speak out against netanyahu because
they don’t want to be seen as supporting hamas and then there’s a smaller segment more very vocal segment amongst the american people who are anti-israel and pro-Hamas, pro-Palestinian cause, believe in Palestinian statehood. They get a lot of attention by demonstrations, et cetera, but they have no political clout.
Their numbers aren’t big enough to have a meaningful impact at the polls. Maybe in some swing states like Michigan and Wisconsin, they might have an impact, but from a national standpoint, they don’t. they definitely have virtually zero influence on the political and economic elite. So the United States is firmly committed on the path of supporting Israel blindly,
even though Israel is carrying out, and now we cross over to what I believe, acts of genocide that are in violation of the international humanitarian law. Israel is a Apartheid state, not just me, but the International Court of Justice believes this. That’s carrying out genocide, not just me, but the International Court of Justice.
And its leaders are guilty of war crimes, not just me, but the International Criminal Court. I believe that Israel has lost all justification for its continued existence in its current, you know, form. that this Israel-only Zionism is dangerous for Israelis, dangerous for Palestinians, dangerous for the region, and dangerous for the world.
But because the United States blindly supports Israel, unfortunately, this means that the Israeli nation will hang on longer than it should. The fact is Israel’s lost its legitimacy in the eyes of the world. And Israel, I believe, will never recover from the damage that’s been done to its reputation.
But the longer the United States continues to blindly support Israel, the longer it will take for the world and Israel to recognize the inevitability of its demise. I would prefer to see Israel go quietly into the night. The way the Botha regime did in South Africa when it was confronted with the reality that
blacks are going to become citizens and they’re going to vote and the white minority apartheid state will no longer be. They opted to work together with the black majority to transition as peacefully as possible into this new national entity led by Nelson Mandela. I would like to believe that Israeli society,
when confronted with the inevitability of the end of the apartheid regime, would be able to work with a non-Jewish majority to transition into a singular entity known as the Palestinian state. But that isn’t going to happen as long as the United States blindly supports Israel.
And Israel retains the hope that it can sustain the continued existence of this Jewish-only homeland, this Zionist entity, this apartheid state. The longer they extend the viability of the state, the more harsh the eventual collapse will be. But I don’t believe that Israel has a legitimate right to exist anymore as a nation state.
I think they need to be recognized as an apartheid regime, as a genocide state that’s lost all legitimacy and that the world should be focused on bringing an end to the Zionist entity of Israel and giving birth to a Palestinian state that is home to not just Muslims,
but Christians and Jews who all live together under the same roof in peace and harmony. Might be a dream, but that’s a heck of a lot better than the nightmare that currently exists today.
Just to be more precise, so you are pro two-state solution or you prefer to see Palestine instead of Israel?
I don’t think a two-state solution is possible. I don’t think Israel, first of all, Israel as it currently exists will not accept a two-state solution. Israel is incapable of accepting a two-state solution. The Israeli settlers in the West Bank make it impossible for a two-state solution.
I do believe that the interim step out of this conflict will be the world saying we want a two-state solution. But for instance, because Israel will have to dismantle the settlements, Israel will fall apart. And so the only solution is a one state solution.
So I believe that the only way that peace can ever exist in the Middle East is with a one state solution. I think that in order to get to a one state solution, you will have to go through the process of trying to create a two state solution. But that’s going to prove impossible.
Yeah, that’s a good position regarding Israel. Oleg cannot say that he fully agrees with it, but it is a very respectful position on Israel. And here let’s get back to Europe. Like, Chancellor Scholz recently was starting to talk about peace. He said that they are not going to supply Ukraine any more ammunition and so on.
she basically started speaking that peace talks are required and there were recently elections in Germany and in their like Bundeslands. So what do you think about all this German case?
Back in the fall of 2021, I wrote an article that talked about the American and Western strategy towards Russia that we would seek to strangle Russia economically under the belief that Russia could not survive stringent, massive economic sanctions, that this would collapse the Russian economy and therefore collapse Russia politically, removing Vladimir Putin from office, replacing him with
Boris Yeltsin 2.0, somebody who would be very subservient. And I said that this was fantasy, that anybody who bothers to examine the reality of the energy security aspects of Europe’s relationship with Russia would know that sanctions that targeted Russia, the only sanctions that could possibly work against Russia are sanctions that target Russia’s energy production capabilities.
And if Europe attempted to sanction Russia’s energy, that while it may do harm to Russia, Russia could survive longer than Europe and that Europe would collapse, that this would bring about what I called at the time revolutionary change in Europe as the people would rise up to reject the policies of those whom they elected.
I’m not bragging, but I was right. I mean, I’ll take credit where credit’s due. It turned out that everything I said in there is spot on. And Germany is the prime example of this. The German economy is in shambles. What used to be the economic engine of the European Union today is
on hospice, a cancer patient that has no chance of recovery. And the collapse of the ongoing collapse of the German economy is having a detrimental impact politically for the power elites that created this policy to begin with. What we saw, I think it was last month or earlier this month, I think earlier this month
in elections in Germany, in Thuringia and Saxony, was a rejection, absolute rejection of the German political and economic elite that governs today. The ruling coalition almost didn’t qualify for any seats in the local parliaments. And we saw two emerging parties, the Alternative for Deutschland, AFD and then the Seren Wagenknecht, I believe I might be mispronouncing this,
but a party named after a left-wing politician who left the left party, part of the coalition, because she opposed their policies. The Seren Wagenknecht party came in third, even though she just created the party earlier this year, a respectable third. And Alternative for Deutschland came in first
I believe, in Thuringia and second in Saxony in a very close election. And this is representative of a growing discontent in Germany towards the political elite. Revolutions can happen in a number of ways. They don’t have to be violent. They can happen by people turning to the tools of democracy and removing people
through the power of the vote. And I think that’s the direction that Germany’s heading. We’re seeing a dramatic transition away from political entities that supported the war in Russia to political entities that are opposed to this. We just saw elections in the Czech Republic where, again, an opposition party opposed this conflict,
won 10 out of 13 regional elections. We’ve seen pushback in Hungary. We’ve seen pushback in Slovakia. We’re seeing pushback in France. Europe is falling apart. And this is a direct result of the insanity of thinking you could sanction Russia into compliance. And Europe will not recover. I believe that just as I said earlier,
that I think Israel’s policies towards the Palestinians have fatally wounded Israel. the European Union’s policies towards Russia have fatally wounded the European Union. I don’t think the European Union recovers from this. I think there are too many fractures within the European Union that will pull it apart. And there’s now competing gravitational pull.
The European Union no longer is as attractive as it once was. I mean, it’s one thing to talk about investing in an opportunity to have a vacation in Hawaii on the beach. It’s another thing when that vacation in Hawaii on the beach turns out to actually be a vacation in the slums of New York City,
where rats instead of dolphins frolic. That’s not attractive. Nobody’s going to invest in that. And today, there’s very few people to find the European Union attractive. It’s a very unattractive reality. You see nations rejecting the European Union immigration policy, the blanket, bring everybody in, let them do what they want policy. Nations are rejecting this.
You see nations rejecting this war in Ukraine, recognizing it as having a detrimental impact on the economic and military security of Europe. You’re seeing more people start to talk about what’s good for my country, not what’s good for the European Union. And that’s the end of the European Union.
The whole concept of the European Union is that you deemphasize nation states and you emphasize the singularity of a European Union. That singularity is no longer attractive. People are turning back to protecting their national interests. And this is creating fractures. The same thing with NATO. NATO is the military extension of the European Union, both of which are
beholden to the United States. The European Union functions as a social economic extension of American national interests. NATO is an extension of American military interests. But NATO is fracturing. It’s not this all-powerful unified force. It’s falling apart. They can’t afford to do what they want to do. Their mouths say things, but their pocketbooks can’t.
A collapsing European economy is incapable of generating the economic muscle necessary to rearm on the scope and scale that Europe is talking about. And nations are waking up to the fact that you don’t need to do that. Russia is not a threat to Europe. That’s a reality.
Any military expert worth his or her salt will tell you that this fantasy that exists in certain capitals, that Russia, once they win in Ukraine, is going to continue to march on Europe, is ridiculous. I have high regard for the Russian military. I think their professionalism has improved dramatically.
I believe they’re one of the most combat effective militaries in the world today, if not the most combat effective military in the world today. But I will tell you this, if the Russian military as currently configured attempted to invade NATO, they would lose because there’s not enough of them.
Offensive military operations are very complex, very demanding logistically, etc. Russia was succeeded in World War II because it had 12 million men. Russia today just signed a paper to increase their military to 1.5 million men. That’s barely enough to defend their borders and win in Ukraine.
If you want to extend this war into Poland, the Baltics, Romania, you can’t do it with 1.5 million men. It’s ridiculous. So, you know, People are waking up to the fact that this fear mongering is baseless and that rather than continue the bankruptcy of Europe by investing in military that they can’t build, they don’t need.
People are starting to say that maybe we need to focus on instead of confronting Russia, how do we live with Russia is in harmony, in peace. Maybe not as friends, I don’t know if Russia and Europe can be friends in the near term.
Maybe not as partners, but as fellow human beings who don’t want to go to war. I think that’s the direction Europe’s heading and that’s bad news for both the European Union and NATO.
Alek also said that they don’t need to invade NATO countries. Now let’s get back to the US. Of course, we can see that Biden will not win because Biden resigned from… participation in the election campaign, but of course we are sure that Trump and Harris will be more of a rivalry and there
will be more activity in this pre-election period. But how do we view these elections from the place where we are? It is like the one who wins will regret the victory. Because this campaign is very complex and it’s very dirty and it’s really very hard for the candidate. What is your opinion about that?
Well, as you know, the FBI raided my house on August 7th. And one of the things they accused me of doing is working with Russia to undermine the elections in November. So I have to be careful. Is your question really a secret Russian campaign to get me to undermine the American elections? I understand you very well.
To the FBI who might be watching this interview, I only have two words for you, krenim. I don’t know if those are bad words, but I hope.
Unfortunately, American politics has become very, very ugly recently. It’s always been ugly. I mean, if you look at the history of the United States, our politicians don’t like each other. Sometimes they hate each other. I think it was John Adams who ran against Thomas Jefferson. They did not like one another.
I think John Quincy Adams running against Andrew Jackson. They didn’t like. Abraham Lincoln’s election in 1860 was ugly, ugly. I mean, our history is of politicians despising one another and our journalists don’t help because they throw mud at each politician. It’s very rare that we have what we call a gentlemanly election.
This election is not a gentlemanly election. But one of the big differences in this election isn’t that the candidates don’t like each other. It’s that we have two competing visions of America that go beyond political parties. We have a candidate, Kamala Harris, who is literally the epitome of the establishment. She is from the establishment.
She is a political entity that is supported by the establishment. Normally, she would face off against a Republican who was from the establishment. So it would be two establishment figures going up against each other. And the establishment doesn’t care because whoever wins, it’s good for the establishment. But this time, the Republican Party candidate is not the establishment.
It’s the anti-establishment, Donald Trump. And his victory poses an existential threat to the establishment. And so this campaign isn’t just nasty. It’s dangerous. It’s dangerous for at least one of the candidates, Donald Trump, who has had two attempts against his life. And there may be more.
It’s dangerous for the American people because we are being divided into two camps that are incompatible with one another. The left has said of Trump and his supporters that he is a threat to the existential survival of America. This is dangerous because the implication is if Trump wins, America will be destroyed.
And what will people do to prevent the destruction of America? It’s very dangerous talk. And Trump is saying the same thing about the Democrats, that if Kamala Harris wins, It will be the death of America. This means that normally when a candidate wins, the American people who lost go, okay,
we have to do a better job next time. We have to get a better candidate. We have to work harder, et cetera. This time, the side that loses says America is over. America is destroyed, which creates the question, what will you do to save America?
And now we have the potential for problems that we don’t want to have in this country. This is a very, very dangerous, a very, very ugly election. And I don’t know what the consequences of this election will be. I can’t tell you who’s going to win. It’s a very close election.
What I can say is that whoever does win wins. is going to have a very big problem in trying to keep America united, keep America together. Because the Democrats will never work with a Trump administration. And MAGA America will not work with a Harris administration. And they each represent roughly half of the United States.
And so we have a situation where half of America will reject the presidential victor, no matter who that ends up being. It’s a scary situation.
There will be two questions. And it is not a secret that you are very popular in Russia and many people read your articles and listen to your interviews and you are translated a lot in Russia. And everyone is worried about two things. Have you got your passport back and who you are going to vote for?
I told Oleg that we will be accused in meddling in American elections, so if you don’t feel like answering, don’t answer. It’s a good question.
I know my passport was taken away from me in violation of the law. In America, we hopefully still have the rule of law and they will return my passport or i will get a new passport issued it may take some
time but it will happen so i i hope to get a passport in my hands and uh and maybe have the opportunity to visit russia again sometime in the not so distant future but um I can guarantee that I will get a passport back. That’s a 100% certainty.
The US government has no authority to deny me a passport, none whatsoever. And the courts will back me up on this one. It takes time, unfortunately. I don’t have a million dollar lawyer that I can bring to bear on this problem. So it takes time.
As to whom I’m going to vote for, I’ve made a decision in this election not just for myself, but what I say is, I don’t believe anybody should be telling anybody who they’re going to vote for right now. I don’t think you should give your vote to anybody, especially in September when the election is in November.
Because the moment you give your vote away, the moment I say, I’m for Harris or I’m for Trump, they don’t care about you anymore. Why would they? You already gave your vote away. So then if you’re saying, I believe that elections are an opportunity for us to bring about change in the
country by making issues so important that politicians have to listen to what we have to say and give us policy samples on how they’re going to fix these issues before we vote for them. But if I say, for instance, I’m going to vote for Donald Trump. Why would Donald Trump care what I have to say after that?
I’ve literally nullified myself. So my position is my vote is mine. You have to earn my vote. And so between now and November, I’m going to work to make issues important to me matter, to see how the candidates respond to these issues. And from my perspective, there’s two primary issues. One is stopping a nuclear war with Russia.
I believe it’s the greatest threat that faces America today, faces the world today. And I believe that our politicians aren’t paying enough attention to this threat. So I’m going to work very hard to make this issue a viable issue. And already there’s some success. We’ve seen the Trump campaign put out a
an article that talks about the need to bring an end to the war in Ukraine and prevent a nuclear war with Russia. Now that they’ve committed to that, maybe we can get the Harris campaign to respond. And maybe Jill Steinberg will weigh in.
And now we have three versions of what they’re going to do to prevent a nuclear war. And then they have to begin to see who has the better version. And suddenly we have good policy. And the person that puts out the best policy, I’ll vote for it. The other issue is defending free speech.
The one thing that makes America America is our right to free speech. It’s different from anywhere else in the world. I’m not critical of other nations. For instance, Russia. We know that Russia doesn’t have a constitution, a constitutional right to free speech, that there are limitations on free speech in Russia that theoretically don’t exist
in the United States. That’s Russia’s business. I’ve been to Russia. And I’ve seen Russians speak out critically of their government. I’ve never seen a Russian afraid to speak out on any issue. And so, but that’s Russia. That’s how Russia decides to be Russia. It’s not my business. Just like how America decides to be America isn’t Russia’s business,
especially when it comes to free speech. There’s many in Russia who think that free speech, the way America does it, is bad. It’s too free. It’s destructive. It hurts the country. There needs to be limitations. That’s your point of view, and I respect it. But that’s not what the First Amendment says of the Constitution.
And I’m a strict constitutionalist. I will defend free speech. I will defend my right to say what I want to say, when I want to say it, how I want to say it, to whom I want to say it. And the moment you take that away from me, I cease to function as an American citizen.
I become something else. And the moment you take free speech away from us collectively, we cease to function as the constitutional republic that we are. I believe in the constitutional republic. I believe in the power of the American people, but unless we can speak freely, we have no power and the constitution has no viability.
So that’s the second issue that I will fight for is what are the candidates going to do to defend my free speech rights? And again, on election day, I will evaluate all three candidates that are on the ballot. And the one that has articulated the best policy that meets the issues that answer
the issues that I’ve put forward is the person that will get my vote. And I would hope all Americans would operate this way because it makes this country a little bit more interesting when the candidates have to worry about whether or not they have your vote on election night. Because if everybody right now puts Trump sticker out,
Harris sticker out, says I’m voting for this person, the candidates don’t worry anymore. They get complacent. And that’s the worst thing for democracy is a complacent candidate.
Yeah, I see. A small remark. My neighbors have already decided that they will vote for Trump. I don’t know if they are American citizens, but they have Trump 2024 flag. on their car workshop. It looks quite funny.
My neighbor will nullify their vote because my neighbor has a Harris placard in their yard. I live in New York. It’s a very pro-democratic state.
I told about your event on September 28th. We will post a link to it too so people can watch those who know English.
Scott, you see, Alex said that in Russian Constitution there is a point about freedom of speech. It is not an amendment, but it is included in the Constitution.
And we really hope that you get your passport back and then you come to Russia. Well, you know, you have been there already and you know how Russians greet the guests. So maybe you will meet a Legan person too. And then you will post some pictures or make a live stream like sitting two together in one place.
Who knows? so yeah it was really very nice and we liked the stream we liked how it turned out to be and uh thanks a lot for your time thanks a lot for coming and i hope we will meet again and thanks thank you very much it was very nice talking to you and thank
you for your audience for your attention and yeah bye bye everyone bye bye bye
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Scott Ritter talks about his September 28 event promoting peace
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welcome to issues that matter I’m Cynthia puler my guest today is Scott
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Ritter and Scott and I are gonna have a pretty interesting conversation we’re
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going to talk about a number of things so Scott how how how are you these days
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I’m doing great thanks how are you doing good this weather is just beautiful isn’t it it is um I hope it’s
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sustainable but um you know we are getting into the so I’m sure that some
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rain coming soon but I’m enjoying it while it lasts I hope it doesn’t rain on the 28th it better
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not so um the situation with the
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missiles uh sh uh targeting right into Russia that’s pretty scary tell us a
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little bit about that and tell us are we closer to do day than we were
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before well let me make it clear uh you talked about the great weather we had what did you do uh on
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Saturday I got drunk well that’s fantastic I mean I’m
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I’m happy for you that means you’re out having a good time with friends and family correct yeah and uh you love your
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friends and your family of course and you remember Saturday with good memories except maybe a hangover on Sunday right
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a big hangover right do while you were getting drunk on Saturday did you know that you almost
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died tell me about it and all your friends almost died did you know that we
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almost had a nuclear war on Saturday no I didn’t huh I wonder why you didn’t know that because America’s sleep at the
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wheel um on Friday Joe Biden had a meeting in the white house between
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himself and Kier starmer he’s the Prime Minister of Great Britain Kier starmer arrived in Washington DC everybody can
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look at the photograph carrying uh the red leather briefcase of uh his Majesty’s official correspondence uh and
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these were the documents that um contain the argument that Kier starmer uh and
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the British government were making to Joe Biden uh that Joe Biden should sign off on giving Ukraine the green light to
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use Storm Shadow missiles which were a British made cruise missile and American attacks missiles uh to strike targets
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deep inside Russia um Joe Biden was inclined to sign off on this
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had he done so we’d be dead I’m just laying it out there now there’s a reason
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why he didn’t on Thursday um Russian President Vladimir
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Putin made an address spoke to the press and he said let it let’s be clear if the
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United States and Great Britain give Ukraine the green light to use the Storm
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Shadow missile or attack thems they will become a direct party to to the conflict
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and this is something that Russia cannot ignore and will have to respond to um
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now apparently everybody thought that Putin was bluffing so on Friday while
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Kier starmer was and Putin were preparing for the meeting um the Russian ambassador to the United Nations in a
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session of the security Council said If America and Great Britain sign off on this this will be a
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declaration of war anaton Antonov on Friday the Russian
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Ambassador the United States made a statement that the conflict will not be limited to
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a Russian response to Ukraine or Europe Russia will attack the United
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States now still we weren’t getting the message so apparently there was a back Channel message now there’s two back
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channels one with the Pentagon one with the CIA I don’t know which one was used both
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but this back Channel um the message that was conveyed was of such
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specificity and such determination that Joe Biden was told by
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his National Security adviser if you sign that document we’re at war with
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Russia and so Biden didn’t sign it but everybody still thinks Russia is
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bluffing Joe Biden in his heart of hearts believes Russia is bluffing if you saw the press conference where
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someone said what do you think of Vladimir Putin’s threat he said I don’t think much of Vladimir Putin because
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he’s angry because he had to step down um had he signed that
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document Russia I believe would have Unleashed strategic weapons uh using
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conventional Warheads of such destructive capacity they might as well be nuclear and they would have struck
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targets Not only would they have eliminated Kiev as a Modern Nation a modern city they would have struck
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Targets in the United Kingdom NATO Targets in Europe and targets here in the United States the exact targets that
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would have been struck uh would you know that’s up to the Russians I can’t predict that outcome but they would have
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been decisive the United States based upon its nuclear posture and its nuclear
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employment plan would have had no choice but to employ low yield nuclear weapons in an to forall continued Russian
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attacks we would have used a low yield nuclear weapon against Russia which would have automatically triggered a
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general Russian nuclear retaliation let me ask this when you say
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uh that it was low range what was the
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exact phrase that you used about the US weapon low yield low
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yield would that low yield weapon be more powerful than the bomb we dropped
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on Hiroshima and Nagasaki no it would be far less powerful okay that’s the that’s the
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problem you see uh to drop a weapon of this size it becomes an attractive
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option in the minds of American war planners that’s why we have this this is why Donald Trump changed our nuclear
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posture in 2018 um and change our nuclear employment plan
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our war plans in 2020 in 20 2018 he authorized he green lit the
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deployment of this w76 D2 low yield nuclear weapon uh it was produced and it
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was absorbed into the American nuclear Arsenal in 2020 he changed the nuclear employment plan which means how we will
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go to war and what the Strategic uh
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strategic command said is they believe in um nuclear preemption that in a
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scenario where you are facing an escalation of conventional threats coming from Russia that the United
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States will employ low yield nuclear weapons preemptively meaning that we’re not waiting for Russia to use nuclear
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weapons we will respond preemptively to escalate and compel the Russians to
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deescalate but see this operates under the assumption that Russia is bluffing about its nuclear its own nuclear
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posture Vladimir Putin has said that any nuclear attack against Russia uh will
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automatically trigger the totality of Russia’s nuclear response um there are
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many people in the west that say that Vladimir Putin would never do this U I’m
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somebody who believes that the Russians don’t Bluff and thank goodness whoever was advising Joe Biden on Friday Friday
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the 13th by the way right um uh convinced him that the Russians weren’t bluffing as well I’m here to tell you
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it’s automatic and Cynthia this is what people need to understand it’s out of our hands it’s
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automatic once it starts it can’t be stopped if Joe Biden had signed that piece of paper he signed the death
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warrant of the world billions of people would die hundreds of millions of Americans
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would have died on Saturday the day you were getting drunk enjoying the weather having fun and yet
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nobody in this god-forsaken country we call America is aware of this you almost
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died because of the stupidity of American policy and then the question
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you have to ask yourself is what are you willing to do to make sure that you don’t die how do you change policy and
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you can only change policy by changing the policy makers um we have people
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right now in office who have bought into um a nuclear import
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deployment plan that Embraces nuclear preemption Joe Biden had a chance to
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change that he opted not to he published his own uh nuclear policy review in 2022
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and just recently in March he signed off on a new nuclear employment plan that
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expands the potential opportunities for preemptive nuclear attack not restricts
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them so there’s even more chance for the United States to say in this scenario we will preempt with a low yield nuclear
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weapon it’s a US nuclear weapon you see it’s so small it can’t hurt anybody it’s just showing demonstrating capability
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but the Russians don’t operate that way nobody operates that way once you break
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that you know that that barrier of of use of nuclear weapons it’s inevitable
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that we end up with a general nuclear war and every American nuclear war planner knows this throughout history
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every time the nuclear war planners have tried to provide a president with the range of options designed to limit the
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potential every nuclear war game that’s played out always ends the same way
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General nuclear exchange because you can’t limit the use of nuclear weapons
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so again I just want to point out that um to your audience you almost all died on Saturday and I hope you give a damn
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about it because I do and my question to you is what are you g to do about it okay
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so then Harris and Trump were both aware of this right I don’t know about KLA
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Harris I mean I I don’t I can’t speak for what I can say is that um I think
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yesterday uh RFK Jr and Donald Trump Jr wrote an opinion piece that was
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published in the hill um where they talked about the danger of this and the
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necessity of um changing our attitude talking about the the need for negotiating and into this conflict with
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Russia so that we begin um you know we get on a of reducing the possibility of
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nuclear war now you know I can’t I I don’t know to what extent they
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coordinated with Donald Trump I do know that Donald Trump has articulated
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ungracefully but articulated nonetheless the danger of nuclear weapons the threat
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posed by nuclear weapons and the need to avoid a nuclear war um whether or not he played a role in the writing of this
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oped I don’t know but I am hopeful that he is aware of this oped and has read
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this oped his son’s names on this oped RFK Jr’s on it who has been brought into the Trump campaign as an adviser so I
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don’t think that they would publish an opet of this uh of of this scope and scale without um a the knowledge of the
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Trump campaign and be the permission of the Trump campaign so I believe that Donald Trump is aware of what happened
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and is cognizant of the threat and hopefully we’ll be articulating policies designed to reduce the potential of
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nuclear war in the future I had gone to a u a get together in in Cherry Valley a
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couple weeks ago and I asked everybody who was sitting at the table what was
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the most important issue in the 2024 election have they perceived it not one
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of them said the threat of nuclear war not one of them said that because
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they’re ignorant I mean they they they’re very ignorant they uh you know and what I tell people is don’t allow
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your political passions to manifest your uh itself in um National Suicide you
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know there’s a lot of issues out there that are important regardless of where you stand on it we know that abortion is
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a very important issue people are pro people are against and they view this as one of the existential issues of this
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election and I’m not there to disagree with them except to say this that whatever you think is going to happen
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with abortion policy isn’t going to happen if you no longer are alive that if there’s a nuclear war it doesn’t
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matter there’s people out there that you know talk about immigration um some people are in favor
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of you know more liberal policies some people want to shut the border um I’m not here to tell you which which side is
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right or wrong it doesn’t matter because whatever you think’s going to happen with immigration isn’t going to happen
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if you’re dead you all almost died on Saturday I don’t know what to say here
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people whatever you think about abortion immigration guns whatever whatever your issue is is irrelevant
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it doesn’t matter because you almost died on Saturday and unless we do something to same this trajectory to
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change this trajectory you’re gonna die because we came this close and no
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pressure is being put on Biden to change this this mindset and we’re in a domestic political season where a lot of
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political pressure is going to be put on him to do things that are create perception the perception of
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strength and if he goes down one of these you know man I’m a tough guy acts
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um and signs the wrong piece of paper we all die we all
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die Annie Jacobson wrote a book called nuclear war a
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scenario it’s a work of fiction but it’s based upon interviews that she has done
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with nuclear war planners over the years you know how long it takes for the world to end Cynthia a minute 72
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minutes wow 72 minutes from start to finish the world ends you could be in a movie and not
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realize that you’re never going to see the end of the movie because while you’re there you’re going to melt you could be out getting drunk with your
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friends admiring the beautiful day going whoa there’s a second sun that second sun is actually a nuclear explosion and
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you need to pray at that moment that it kills you because to survive a nuclear war as Nikita kushev once famously said
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the survivors will Envy the Dead there is no surviving a nuclear war what
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happens if you live you just extend the the death sentence that
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you’ve been given because you will die of radiation sickness of starvation of
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illness of thirst you will die because the world will become
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unlivable unlivable you almost died Saturday Cynthia what are you doing about it are
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you angry are you upset you should be you should be furious I fous and
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everybody watching this should be furious you almost died and you didn’t have a say you didn’t have a vote it
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just was going to happen are you feeling powerless and the answer is of course
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you are so what are you gonna do about it I have a CH I have a solution for you
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see on September 28th um we’re hosting a rally in Kingston and I call my aspect of this
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rally operation Dawn and it’s a challenge I have for the American people it’s just simple questions
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what would you do to save democracy what would you do to save America what would you do to save the world through your
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vote in November operation Dawn that’s it now if you’re telling me I’m a Harris
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supporter I’m gonna vote for Harris get the hell out of here I don’t care about you anymore you don’t you don’t count anymore you gave your vote away like a
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cheap prostitute you gave yourself away I’m a Donald Trump guy FW and through I
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don’t care about you anymore you gave your vote away you don’t count they’re not going to listen to you because you
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already gave your vote away the only people they’re going to listen to are the ones that haven’t
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given their vote away yet the ones who say you have to earn my vote and notice
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in the abortion side how both sides are are are are shaping their arguments
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they’re competing against one another to earn the vote of the people who have made abortion and issue look at
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immigration both sides are maneuvering to win over the immigration vote the people that haven’t given their vote
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away yet but I just told you if you’re an abortion person or an immigration person it doesn’t matter if you’re dead
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and you almost died on Saturday you’re living on borrowed time
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so why don’t we make preventing nuclear war the existential issue of our time
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the only issue that counts where does the candidate stand on making sure we
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don’t die in a nuclear Holocaust now what’s interesting is people say well no
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you say well nobody’s talking about it Scott wrong Cynthia RFK Jr Donald Trump
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Jr just published a not bad piece and it’s going to be something that Donald
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Trump is going to talk about now you can say but I don’t support Trump fine you
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want KLA Harris to become involved in this shout out at the top of your lungs
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KLA this is the issue I care about you won’t get my vote unless you you guarant
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show me a policy that says I don’t want to have a nuclear war I want to stop a
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nuclear war I have a plan to stop a nuclear war she doesn’t right now she wants to have the most lethal military in the fort she wants to stand up to
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Putin she wants to continue the Biden Administration on steroids policy and it will end up with us going to nuclear war
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but if you say no this is important to us and oh by the way comma Trump puts something out there that we sort of like
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we find it attractive he has our interest we’re not giving him our vote yet because we want him to earn it but
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he’s doing a good job right now what are you going to do KLA she’s going to have to come out and say something and now
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she’s put something on the table now we can begin a bidding war between the
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candidates where they’re seeking to maneuver to win our votes in November by
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convincing us that they’re the person that can stop nuclear war that’s what needs to happen
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operation Dawn begins September 28th the Kingston New York that’s where we begin to pitch this need to have a policy to
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stop nuclear war and it won’t stop until November 5th election day and between
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September 28th and November 5th I’m going to do my damnest to get Americans to wake up about the threat posed by
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nuclear weapons and by how and I’m going to emphasize how close we came to die last week September 14th could have been
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the last day you ever lived on this planet and you weren’t even aware of it
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now you’re being Paul Riv how are you g to do that how are you gonna make
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everyone aware of this particular
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issue well I mean again we’re going to September 28th we hope to get um you
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know people to pay attention um we’ve got uh an All-Star lineup and we’ve got
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U Gerald Cante uh we’ve got judge Andrew napalitano we’ve got Max Blumenthal Ona
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parmel we got me we got Roger Waters who’s going to uh make a uh an
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appearance um and we have the strength of our arguments uh we’re going to spend four hours from 2 in the afternoon until
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6 at night um putting together their program that people can watch live in person the ideal would be if you showed
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up in Kingston our fantasy is that we shut down the throughway like they did at Woodstock back in
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1960 but uh actually we don’t want to do that because we don’t want to uh you know impede traffic but um we would love
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to shut down downtown Kingston we would love to have so many people in the streets down there and we’re planning on
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that we have a large screen uh you know large screen um TV screens that are
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going to be put out there we have a mobile truck with giant LED screen we put in an offside area so people can
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watch um but people can also tune in on the internet if you can’t make it to Kingston um you can have viewing parties
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there you want to get get drunk on uh on Saturday 28th Cynthia if you can’t make it to
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Kingston get together with your friends um open up your computer log in and then
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watch this the show and then you’ll be able to watch but that’s not the end of it that’s the beginning of it actually
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it’s gonna even begin before that tonight I’m interviewing RFK Jr on my podcast we’re gonna be talking about
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this issue I’ll be interviewing people from from down Tulsi gabber has agreed to come on I’d like to get people from
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the Harris campaign on I’d like to Jill Stein on I’d like to engage people in a dialogue about the danger of nuclear
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weapons that’s how I’m going to wake them up Cynthia you think I’m just going to sit here and do nothing I’m Scott
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Ritter I’m a marine damn it I’m gonna close with and destroy the enemy through Firepower and maneuver and the enemy is
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nuclear weapons the threat of nuclear war you think I’m gonna be passive no I’m gonna be dynamic I’m gonna be
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aggressive because I almost died on Saturday and I did I right as did
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everybody I’m pissed off are you you better get pissed off and if
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you’re pissed off you better ask yourself what you’re going to do about it what I’m trying to tell you is we’ve
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got a program that addresses this very issue and we’d like your
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support I’m I’m speechless I think what you’re doing is great and I support you
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100% so it’s the uh it starts in Kingston
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and it’s going to be on the internet for everybody in the world to watch right
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100% it’ll be on the internet live and then um you know we’re what you know
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Gerald Cante put this together he’s been having this Rally For Peace for some time in Kingston uh but he and I met
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earlier when he asked me if I want to be part of it I said but I need it to be part of operation Dawn um I want to use
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it as the springboard for operation Dawn I think the timing of it is perfect to make a push to the election and he
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agreed and then we said well how do we how do we broaden this um and I came up
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with I call a family of podcasts um and so we have some uh some
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well-known podcasters coming in uh but we want others to join you have a podcast Cynthia we want you to be part
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of the Family podcast we want you to help us advertise and you are doing that here um before before the 28th we’ll be
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putting out a couple more flyers um that’ll have the the websites down there
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where you can log in and watch and then we will be taking that product and cutting it up into digestible parts and
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and putting them out um and again we’ll be following up the family of podcasts
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uh that we encourage people to engage in discussions about the threat of nuclear weapons and we want a you know a a
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nationwide dialogue about the threat of nuclear weapons um you know
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traditionally this was difficult to do because you were you were held you know to physical um Gatherings rallies how do
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you bring people together Etc um you know million man marches we need a million people in Central Park I was
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naive enough at one point in time to think that that was the way to go they’ve made it impossible for you to
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have a million person March in and in in Central Park I tried and it’s just
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impossible to do um but we can get a million people to watch this uh this
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show if if if if it’s advertised if if enough people want I’ve made videos that
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have had multiple millions of people watch them um I don’t need to have a
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million people come together in Central Park on one day what I need to do is
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have millions of people come together over the course of a period of time coales into a politically viable
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constituency demanding um policies that make sure we
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don’t die on any given Saturday that we can enjoy the weather that we can be with our friends we can be with our
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families my daughter just got married last year she and her husband are talking about raising the family you
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know how mad I am right now that Joe Biden almost took away that almost took
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away their ability to create a family took away my ability to be a grandparent
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you know how angry I am about that everybody out here should be just furious all the things that you all the
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dreams you have all the aspirations you have with one stroke of the pen he could have ended all of that ended all that
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for what for Ukraine for this insane Nation with an insane leader are you
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willing to give up everything for Ukraine are you willing to allow your government to commit National Suicide
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for Ukraine that’s the real question here and people have to start answering
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that question and again I’m not going to say that I agree with everything that’s in RFK Jr and Donald Trump Jr’s
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oped I’ll leave that up to the individual reader to say but what I can say is there’s an argument there come up
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with a better idea if you don’t like it if you’re on the Harris side of things come up with a better opet come up with
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your own opit put pressure on people to write that opit find people within the Harris camp that will respond to this
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that’s a fair question hey KLA what are you doing about the threat of nuclear weapons Donald Trump just had his
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proxies put out an oped people are looking at that people are liking that you’re going to lose votes what are you
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going to do about it and then she has to come up with something and then Donald Trump’s gonna
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say well wait a minute conell Harris just came up with something um I gotta change mind to make it to adapt to this
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and now you see they’re moving in a direction that we need to be headed in right now it’s stagnant we’re not
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doing there is no arms control in America anymore you know under John F
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Kennedy we had an organization he created an organization called the arms control and disarmament agency ACTA and
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ACTA took the lead in the US government to put in motion negotiations with the
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Soviets that led to some of the most important Arms Control agreements of our time agreements that walked us away from
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the abyss of nuclear conflict and allowed the cold war to end we need that
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again but who’s talking about it nobody let me ask you think about this scenario
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if Harris is elected are you going to keep the
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pressure on her even after she might be elected what are you GNA do then the
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important thing is to get people to commit to get the candidates on both sides to commit to a policy that talks
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about the prevention of nuclear weapons that’s the most important thing once the election’s done then you have to hold
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those candidates accountable for what they do all right um and you know that’s that’s
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a process it’s the followup um you know the the the key aspect of anything is
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supervision it’s very easy to give direction but then you have to supervise right and so yes operation Don will
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continue we will continue to hold uh whoever wins the election accountable for whatever policies they put forward
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or you know if they failed to put forward a policy but won the election nonetheless to continue to put pressure on them to recognize they put by
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educating the American people about the danger of nuclear weapons but I’m here to say right now that if we don’t get the candidates to commit to a policy
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it’s almost impossible to hold them to account because they’ll believe that they have a mandate to govern that is independent of the need to stop a
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nuclear war so the fight right now is between now and November 5th we have to
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get the candidates to wake up one candidate has let’s get Jill Stein in on the mix
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I’ve been trying to get Jill Stein to uh to come on my show she actually agreed to and then the FBI raed my house and uh
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she got scared I need to go to her and say don’t be a coward I mean what the hell are you afraid of the FBI raided my
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house not because of Any criminal activity because they’re trying to suppress my free speech they’re trying to suppress my ability to talk to people
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like you so you can inform and educate the American audience that’s what they’re trying to do you’re being a
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coward by not coming on the show come on the show and talk about the issues that matter and the only issue that matters
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in my opinion right now is stopping a nuclear war do you have something to say about this Jill I think she does and I
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think if she articulates that now you have Jill Stein who’s stealing votes away from comma Harris according to many
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people who’s put out there an opinion about nuclear weapons and KLA Harris will say my God you know it’s one thing
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to say well Donald Trump’s a mad man but now Jill Stein’s out there saying things and voters are going to gravitate away I’ve got to do something and then she’s
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gonna have to commit to a policy that talks about prevention of nuclear weapons or War um this is how it works
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this is how you put pressure you do it upfront because this is is a very tight election a very tight election and um if
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you capture an issue like this and you make this issue
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manifest the politicians have no choice but to respond because they want to win the election and if you get them to
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commit to a policy then you get to hold their feet to the fire then you have the
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viability going forward to say what about this what about that what about this what about that doesn’t mean
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they’re going to do it but at least you have some tools to work with but if you remain silent and you’re operating on a
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hope and a prayer that they will do the right thing because they will do the right thing Joe Biden almost signed a document on Friday that caused us all to
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die on Saturday where’s the pressure on him
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none the Russians had to put the pressure on him the Russians had to make them back down and I’ll tell you what
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while I’m in favor of good relations between the United States and Russia I’ll be D if I’m going to sit back and
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let Russia dictate my future I don’t want the Russians dictating anything to
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us we have to solve this problem the American people have to solve this problem we can’t be Reliant upon the
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good intention of the Russians because right now they have good intention but what happens when they
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don’t they are not there to help us the Russians don’t exist to do well by the
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American people we have to help ourselves I believe the best way forward is to have good relations with Russia
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the best way to have good relations with Russia is to learn more about Russia about the lack of threat that they posed
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but we never ever as a people should surrender Our Fate to the Russians we
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should never find ourselves in a situation where it’s incumbent upon the Russians to convince Joe Biden of the
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dangers of his actions that’s our job that’s the American people’s job and we
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are asleep at the wheel Joe Biden almost signed a document on on Friday September
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M 13th that caused us all to die on Saturday September 14th whatever the
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hell you were doing on Saturday you weren’t going to get to finish it had he signed that document get pissed off
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America get mad and then ask yourself what you’re going to do about it if you got a better idea than mine run with it
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but right now I have a plan it’s a plan that’s getting the attention of some people help me sustain this plan and
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maybe save your life in the process okay so everybody in new New York or the
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surrounding areas if they want to come to your event where will it be held it’s in
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downtown Kingston the crossroads of American democracy birthplace of Democracy in America um it’s it’s in
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downtown Kingston um we have Flyers out there with the spit but if you come to Kingston you will find it because that’s where everybody’s going to be um and and
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and come there will be food there will be U you know people selling T-shirts to raise money for causes there’ll be
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entertainment like I said this isn’t going to be four hours of depression it will be very difficult discussions but
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we’re intermixing some music Roger Waters is going to play a couple songs uh we have a live band we have some
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original music that’s going to be introduced at this uh thing I’ll even say this
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um to drive home the P the the point of the importance of family and um why the future of your
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family is being held hostage by this policy um I’m going to do something that
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I don’t normally do which is to open up myself personally and my family personally um my daughter wrote a song I
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wrote the lyrics to the song we’ve had it recorded my other daughter’s illustrating it we’re making a music video and we’re going to premere it in
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Kingston great um and uh it’s it’s about nuclear war it’s about uh the harm the
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danger the threat um but it’s also about family and how angry I am that Joe Biden
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almost made it impossible for this family project never to happen um for
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the dreams of a child never to be able to be manifested as an adult I’m furious
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I am so Furious it’s not even funny um I’m not going to take it anymore so um I
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would ask everybody else to stand up and do the same thing so if they
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live in California or New Mexico or Arizona
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and they can’t come to New York is there a website will it be on YouTube how will
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this be projected to the rest of the world it’ll be streamed live on Saturday
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uh we will we will publish the um the the the the addresses that’ll be streamed on we’re going to try and
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stream on it as many platforms as possible uh recognizing that um some people can’t watch on YouTube maybe
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Rumble maybe X maybe uh telegram um but we’re going to
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be broadcasting on as many different platforms as possible and we will publish the um the various links to these uh to
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these platforms so that you can uh so you can watch it okay great Scott the
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best of luck I will see you on the 28th you’ve been listening to Scott Ritter
35:30
I’m Cynthia poer this is issues that matter and if you like this show please
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subscribe to my YouTube channel Scott thank you for being on thank you
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welcome to issues that matter I’m
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Cynthia perer my guest today is Scott
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Ritter and Scott and I are going to do
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part two of his uh rally for Saturday so
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Scott last time we talked about the
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rally itself and now you have it on
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different platforms can you tell our
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audience what platforms they will be on
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but before you do I got to say something
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your timing is impeccable because Camila
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Harris was just endorsed by like a lot
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of a lot of M uh
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warmongers which is you know good for
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you because you know then you’ll have
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something to really talk about on
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Saturday so um what what platforms is
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your is your um is the video going to be
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on well it’s a live stream uh okay and
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uh you know we call this a family of
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podcasts that’s one of the approaches
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that we’ve taken in promoting this and
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uh you know we our speakers include
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Judge Andrew
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napalitano um max Blumenthal and Anya
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parmel um and myself and then Gerald
1:19
Cante and of course we have Roger Waters
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uh you know coming in on on it too uh
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you know judge napalitano has a podcast
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judging free freedom and uh he has
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nearly a half a million uh subscribers
1:34
and so we’re going to be streaming on
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his YouTube channel um you know so
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that’s I I think it’s a you know at
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judging freedom on on YouTube um you
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know Gerald Cante um you know has a
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YouTube channel uh occupy peace
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2846 uh the gry Zone has one The gry
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Zone
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7996 um so they they’ll be going off on
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three YouTube channels I’ve been kicked
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off of YouTube so I don’t get to play
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the YouTube game but um we we will be
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broadcasting on our Rumble channel so
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that’s you know
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https U with the dot rumble.com
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Backus Tour of Duty if you go to that
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site you have a uh do you have a a a
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a a thing you could hold up the flyer so
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that of the flyer I have my I I have my
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phone um I don’t know if if you’ll be
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able to see that
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but yeah it doesn’t come in uh I I I’ve
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put this out on my uh on my Facebook
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I’ve put this out on my um on my on my
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Twitter um and and and so it’s it’s out
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there um uh same thing we’re going to
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put it on XX has become a interesting uh
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platform to stream on I’ve got um over
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400,000 followers on X so um
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https
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x.com real Scott Ritter and we’ll be
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putting on on others too I think Danny
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Hong wants to come on board and anybody
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who follows Danny Hong he’ll be
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streaming it but uh you know we’re going
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to be getting you know all the people to
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um all the people involved to advertise
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this on their respective podcasts and uh
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push their followers uh to to you know
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to view it um so that’s the best way to
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to watch it so people who want to
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know uh I if they’re in a different
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state or even a different country they
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could go to the particular platforms
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that you just mention click on it and
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watch
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it look the easy the easiest thing is go
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to go to is um you know Scott
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r.com okay that’s my website you click
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on my website and you’ll find all this
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information there it’s a One-Stop shop
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you don’t have to search the internet
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just go to Scot r.com doesn’t cost you
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any money click in on that and it will
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navigate you straight to where you need
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to be if you want to watch this oh good
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that’s terrific so your daughters one of
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your daughters is gonna sing well she’s
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not gonna she’s already sung we uh I I
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don’t want to give too much away but we
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um my my when I talk about the dangers
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of nuclear war you know I don’t want to
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just get into the um you know the the
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the military technical aspect of uh you
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know nuclear policy and employment
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policy policy and things of that nature
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I I I want to impress upon the crowd how
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precious life is and how important life
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is and um you know when my growing up
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with my uh with raising my daughters um
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I I remember they came home one day from
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school and um they had just been shown
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Al Gore’s U movie about climate change
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and they were like Daddy the world’s
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going to end I said what do you mean and
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they were scared to death about climate
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change so we had long drawn out
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discussions about that and that led to
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um other things like nuclear war and
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they were like Daddy are we going to die
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from nuclear war I said well we could I
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mean it’s a danger we have to we have to
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have we have to have corrective policies
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you know we need to fall in love with
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Earth and we need to fall in love with
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life and we need to do things to
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preserve the life that we have that’s
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why daddy disappears for a long period
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of time because he goes around the world
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and tries to get rid of weapons of mass
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destruction um and I went away on a on a
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trip after that a very long trip and I
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and I came back and they had started
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this project where they had invented a
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world um called anamara that’s sort of a
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anagram of uh Marina my wife’s name the
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name of the planet was anamara and um
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they they had built the most
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elaborate World populated by animals and
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people and and conflicts and and heroes
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that were going to save it but the big
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aspect of the story was that we had
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failed on Earth that through a
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combination of climate change and
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nuclear war we had made life on Earth
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uninhabitable um and that uh the last
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remaining humans selected from the
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nations of the world were sent to space
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to go to this new land to start life all
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over again um and and we wrote it out
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they Illustrated it um I even
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um I even wrote I even I even wrote a
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book U it’s supposed to be a 12-part
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book I wrote part one and then um the
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project stalled because the girls grew
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up um but the point is
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um when we were doing this um my
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daughter uh Patricia sat down on the
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piano and wrote a song it was just music
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and it was very uh I mean we were we
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were deeply impressed she played it a
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piano teacher and the teacher liked it
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and the the song was always there and so
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um we were having a conversation about
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this rally and the importance of the
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rally and uh we all mentioned anamara
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and I said you
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know why don’t
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we turn your song into a into a real
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song get some lyrics uh Malcolm burn
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who’s a award-winning music producer
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agreed to give us access to a studio um
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and his skills and so uh she and I came
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up with the lyrics um she she she uh she
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streamlined the song and then we went to
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Malcolm Burns studio in Kingston and we
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recorded a song we spent several hours
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doing it in the end Malcolm quoted Bob
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Dylan said I think we got enough there
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to make a record and um and he uh he did
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the you know we we got a song and it’s
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it sounds pretty damn good then um we
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turned it into a music video um my
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daughter other daughter Patricia or
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Victoria who’s a equal partner in this
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uh project anamara is a joint venture of
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my two daughters um she and her fiance
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Sam
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polling U spent the whole weekend came
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up here and spent the whole weekend
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um illustrating this and we we did a
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series of animations and uh it’s in the
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hands of a video editor right now I hope
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to have the initial draft of it today um
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and uh we’re going to play it on
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Thursday uh it’ll be its premere at this
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thing as part of the introduction to why
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I feel that uh we need to prevent a
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nuclear war
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because it’s this this kind of project
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that makes life fun working with your
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kids not just as children but as adults
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working with them on joint projects that
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Celebrate life that celebrate music that
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celebrate the things that make life
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important and I think it’s imperative to
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share it with everybody so they
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understand why I’m
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angry why am I angry because a lot of
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people say why are you so angry because
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there’s people out there that want to
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make this impossible they want to bring
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this to an end they want to disrupt this
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perfect life that I have with my family
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um and I want people to look around at
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their families and get angry too and if
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enough of us get angry maybe we’ll start
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to do something about it and operation
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Dawn uh which again stands for what
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would you do to save democracy what
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would you save America to save the world
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through your vote in November maybe
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people will do something about it by
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going out there and making stopping a
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nuclear war a politically viable issue
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that forces politicians to take note and
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people out there who say Scott that’s
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drink they’ll never do
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anything Donald Trump Jr and RFK Jr
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under pressure from operation Dawn by
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the way wrote an oped piece published in
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the hill they talked about negotiating
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an end to the war in Ukraine to prevent
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a nuclear war with Russia we’ve already
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had the biggest success possible for all
10:16
you naysayers out there who are like ah
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this is pipe dream you’re smoking dope
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it’s never going to happen feel good
10:21
Scott Kumbaya stick it in your ear we
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already had a big victory one of the
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major candidates is already committed
10:29
that down a path of preventing a nuclear
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war with Russia and if enough of you
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jump on board to say that’s the issue
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that matters we’re not giving trump our
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vote we’re saying we give it to the
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candidate that best articulates a
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strategy to prevent nuclear war H Harris
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might go ah maybe I need to say
10:46
something and then she’ll write an oped
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piece and then Trump will read her oped
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piece and say I got to double down on a
10:52
strategy for disarmament and she’ll say
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oh no no no no I’m going to double down
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on you and now we got them competing in
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a bidding way War to win our vote about
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how they’re going to stop nuclear war
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guys that’s how we save the world that’s
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how it’s done in America by making
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democracy making your vote count all you
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people out there said nah I’m flying a
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trump flag I gave my vote to Trump screw
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you you don’t matter anymore why you
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already sold yourself no one cares what
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you think you’ve already told me how
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you’re going to vote Trump doesn’t care
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about you anymore either for all the
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people out there with the Harris uh you
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know posters in your yard no one cares
11:29
about you anymore you’ve already told
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them what they between now and November
11:34
the political grease goes on the squeaky
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wheel the squeaky wheel only squeaks
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when the vote hasn’t been counted when
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either side says I need your vote to win
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so why don’t we all come together and
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say saving Our Lives is the highest
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priority stopping a nuclear war is the
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highest priority make the biggest damn
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squeaky wheel imaginable
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and force these candidates to apply
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Greece and that Greece of course is
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articulation of policies Jill Stein
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you’re welcome to jump on board too come
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on down I’ve invited her on my show she
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said yes and the FBI raided my house and
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she got scared maybe she’ll stop being
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scared Jill if your people are listening
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call me you got my number um but we we’d
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love you to come on too because Jill if
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you can articulate an anti-nuclear War
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policy and I can bring together through
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operation Dawn me and all the other
12:29
people people enough voters to say the
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person who comes up with the best best
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policy wins our vote who knows Jill you
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might be able to do something and if you
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do that enough people jump on your
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platform KLA is gonna get scared to
12:41
death Jill because you’re taking the
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votes from her so K is gonna say I got
12:45
to do something to nullify Jill and
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she’s gon to come up with a policy then
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Trump’s gonna say damn it I got to do
12:50
something to nullify comm’s policy boom
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and then Jill you get to come in again
12:54
with an even a better policy and look
12:56
what we’ve done debate discussion
12:58
dialogue we made vote
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matter in America that’s the whole
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purpose of operation
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da so Scott I know you’re you’re very
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busy um your website again where people
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can find out your your schedule for
13:14
Saturday yep the website is Scott
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r.com it’s not too hard now on there if
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you allow me sure see here this is a a
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challenge coin I made it especially for
13:28
oper operation Dawn how to stop a
13:30
nuclear war it’s a nice the thing about
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challenge
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coins they’re called a challenge coin
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for a reason they come from a military
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tradition um if you take one and when I
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say take if you buy one because this is
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a fundraising mechanism operation Dawn
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is a campaign it begins on September
13:49
28th we’ve already had some pre-campaign
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victories I told you the oped piece in
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the hill is a big victory um but it’s
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going to continue through November 5th
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but it doesn’t happen for nothing it
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costs money and so we’re selling these
14:04
coins at Scot r.com 20 bucks a pop it’s
14:07
a good deal um it’s a nice coin but if
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you buy one and you ever meet me and I
14:12
know you bought it see I carry one in my
14:14
pocket I’m going to take you to a bar
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and I’m going to throw the coin on the
14:18
bar and if you bought one and you can’t
14:20
put your coin on the bar you got to buy
14:22
me a beer
14:24
but if I put my coin on the bar and you
14:27
put your coin on top of it you met my
14:29
challenge I got to buy you a beer you
14:31
see how it works guys so we can have fun
14:34
we can drink beer and we can help a good
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cause by buying the challenge CL so give
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your website one more time Scott
14:44
r.com Great Scott and you’ve been
14:47
listening to Scott rder I know you’re
14:49
very busy I’m Cynthia puler this is
14:52
issues that matter if you like this show
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please subscribe to my YouTube channel
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and Scott I will see you Saturday well I
15:01
look forward to it and I got a coin with
15:03
your name on it thank you have a great
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day you too bye
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