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Gogoratu ondoko hau: Pascal Lottaz eta ICJ delakoa

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Argentina: The CIA supported the 1976 coup that ousted the democratically elected government and ushered in a brutal military dictatorship.

Ecuador: The CIA conducted covert operations in the country between 1960 and 1963.

Panama: The CIA supported the 1989 invasion that overthrew General Manuel Noriega.

Haiti: The CIA supported the 1991 coup that overthrew President Jean-Bertrand Aristide.

Venezuela: The CIA was involved in the 2002 coup attempt against President Hugo Chávez.

And today in Venezuela, what do you believe is actually happening?

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@tobararbulu # mmt@tobararbulu

uzt. 29

There is plenty of money. It’s just in the wrong hands.

We have a precious opportunity to end the grotesque levels of inequality in this country by taxing the rich, reversing the disaster of privatisation, and making sure every child has the resources they need to thrive.

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Edward Snowden: How Your Cell Phone Spies on You

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Transkripzioa:

Intro

0:00

the Joe Rogan experience

0:03

are you aware at all of the current

0:06

state of surveillance and what if

0:08

anything has changed since your

0:10

revelations yeah I mean the the big

0:13

thing that’s changed since I was uh in

0:18

in in in 2013 is now its mobile first

0:22

everything mobile was still a big deal

0:27

right

0:28

and the intelligence community was very

0:30

much grappling to get its hands around

0:33

it and to deal with it but now people

0:36

are much less likely to use laptop then

0:38

use a desktop than then use you know god

0:42

any kind of wired phone than they are to

0:45

use a smartphone and both Apple and

0:48

Android devices unfortunately are not

0:52

especially good in protecting your

0:55

privacy I think right now you got a

1:00

smartphone right you might be listening

1:01

to this on a train somewhere and in

1:04

traffic right now or you Joe right now

1:07

you got a phone somewhere in the room

1:08

right the phone is turned off or at

1:13

least the screen is turned off it’s

1:14

sitting there it’s powered on and if

1:18

somebody sends you a message the screen

1:20

blinks to life how does that happen but

1:26

how is it that if someone from any

1:28

corner of the earth dials a number your

1:30

phone rings and nobody else’s rings how

1:32

is it you can dial anybody else’s number

1:34

and only their phone rings right every

1:37

smartphone every phone at all is

1:40

constantly connected to the nearest

1:42

cellular tower every phone even when the

1:45

screen is off you think it’s doing

1:47

nothing you can’t see it because radio

1:49

frequency emissions are invisible it’s

1:52

screaming in the air saying Here I am

1:54

Here I am

1:56

here is my IMEI I think it’s individual

2:00

manufacturers Equipment Identity and

2:03

IMEI individual manufacturers subscriber

2:08

identity

2:09

I could be wrong on the break out there

2:11

but the the acronyms are the IMEI and

2:14

the IMSI and you can search for these

2:16

things there are two globally unique

2:18

identifiers that only exist anywhere in

2:21

the world in one place right this makes

2:25

your phone different than all my other

2:26

phones the IMEI is burned into the hand

2:29

side of your phone no matter what SIM

2:31

card you changed to it’s always gonna be

2:33

the same and it’s always gonna be

2:34

telling the phone network it’s this

2:36

physical handset the IME SI is in your

2:41

SIM card right and this is what holds

2:42

your phone number right it’s the

2:44

basically the key the right to use that

2:45

phone number and so your phone is

2:48

sitting there doing nothing you think

2:50

but it’s constantly shouting and saying

2:52

I’m here who is closest to me that’s the

2:55

cell phone tower and every cell phone

2:58

tower with its big ears is listening for

3:01

these little cries for help and going

3:03

alright I see Joe Rogan’s phone and I

3:06

see Jaime’s phone I see all these phones

3:09

that are here right now and it compares

3:13

notes with the other network towers and

3:17

your smart phone compares notes with

3:18

them to go who do I hear the loudest and

3:22

who you hear the loudest is a proxy for

3:26

proximity for closeness distance right

3:29

they go whoever I hear more loudly than

3:32

anybody else that’s close to me so

3:34

you’re gonna be bound to this cell phone

3:35

tower and that cell phone tower is gonna

3:37

make a note a permanent record saying

3:40

this phone this phone handset with this

3:44

phone number at this time was connected

3:48

to me right and based on your phone

3:50

handset and your phone number they can

3:52

get your identity right because you pay

3:56

for this stuff with your credit card and

3:57

everything like that and even if you

4:00

don’t right it’s still active at your

4:02

house overnight is still active you know

4:05

on your nightstand when you’re sleeping

4:06

it’s still whatever the movements of

4:09

your phone are the movements of you as a

4:11

person and those are often quite ly

4:13

uniquely identifying it goes to your

4:15

home it goes to your workplace other

4:18

people don’t have it sorry

4:21

and anyway it’s constantly shouting this

4:23

out and then it compares notes with the

4:24

other parts of network and when somebody

4:27

is trying to get to a phone it compares

4:29

notes of the network compares notes to

4:32

go where is this phone with this phone

4:34

number in the world right now and to

4:38

that cell phone tower that is closest to

4:40

that phone

4:41

it sends out a signal saying we have a

4:43

call for you make your phone’s start

4:45

ringing so your owner can answer it and

4:48

then it connects it across this whole

4:49

path but what this means is that

4:51

whenever you’re carrying a phone

4:52

whenever the phone is turned on there’s

4:55

a record of your presence at that place

4:57

that is being made and created by

4:59

companies it does not need to be kept

5:02

forever and in fact there’s no good

5:03

argument for it to be kept forever but

5:05

these companies see that is valuable

5:07

information right this is the whole big

5:09

data problem that we’re running into and

5:11

all this information that used to be

5:13

ephemeral right where were you when you

5:15

were 8 years old you know we’re worried

5:18

where’d you go after you had a bad

5:19

breakup you know who did you spend the

5:21

night with who’d you call after all this

5:23

information used to be ephemeral meaning

5:25

it disappeared right like like the

5:27

morning dew it would be gone

5:29

no one would remember it but now these

5:31

things are stored now these things are

5:33

saved it doesn’t matter whether you’re

5:35

doing anything wrong it doesn’t matter

5:36

whether you’re the most ordinary person

5:38

on earth because that’s how bulk

5:41

collection which is the government’s

5:43

euphemism for mass surveillance works

5:46

they simply collected all in advance in

5:48

hopes that one day it will become useful

5:50

and that was just talking about how you

5:54

connected phone network that’s not

5:56

talking about all those apps on your

5:58

phone that are contacting the network

6:00

even more frequently right how do you

6:04

get a text message notification how do

6:06

you get an email notification how is it

6:08

the Facebook knows where you’re at you

6:10

know all of these things these analytics

6:13

they are trying to keep track through

6:15

location services on your phone through

6:17

GPS through even just what wireless

6:19

access points you’re connected to

6:21

because there’s a global constantly

6:23

updated map there’s actually many of

6:24

them of wireless access points in the

6:26

world because just like we talked about

6:28

every phone has a unique identifier

6:29

that’s globally unique every wireless

6:32

access point in the war

6:33

right UK promote them at home whether

6:36

it’s in your laptop every device that

6:37

has a radio modem has a globally unique

6:41

identifier in it and this is standard

6:45

term you can look it up and these things

6:47

can be mapped when they’re broadcasting

6:49

in the air because again like your phone

6:52

says to the cell phone tower I have this

6:54

identifier the cell phone tower responds

6:57

and says I have this identifier and

6:59

anybody who’s listening they can write

7:01

these things down and all those Google

7:03

Street View cars that go back and forth

7:05

right they’re keeping notes on whose

7:08

Wi-Fi is active on this block right and

7:11

then they build an in a giant map so

7:13

even if you have GPS turned off right as

7:16

long as you’re connected to Wi-Fi those

7:19

apps can go well I I’m connected to

7:21

Joe’s Wi-Fi but I can also see his

7:24

neighbor’s Wi-Fi here and the other one

7:26

in this apartment over here and the

7:28

other one in the apartment here and you

7:30

should only be able to hear those four

7:34

globally unique Wi-Fi access points from

7:37

these points in physical space right the

7:39

intersection in between the spreads the

7:42

domes of all those wireless access

7:45

points it’s a proxy for location and it

7:47

just goes on and on and on we could talk

7:49

about this for four more hours we don’t

7:50

have that kind of time can I ask you

7:52

this is there a way to mitigate any of

7:53

this personally I mean is me shutting

7:57

your phone off doesn’t even work right

7:59

well so it does in a way it’s just no um

8:03

the thing was shutting your phone off

8:04

that is a risk is how do you know your

8:06

phone’s actually turned off it used to

8:09

be when I was in Geneva for example

8:11

working for the CIA we would all carry

8:16

like drug dealer phones you know the old

8:19

smart phones there sorry old dumb phones

8:22

they’re not smart phones and the reason

8:25

why was just because they had removable

8:28

battery backs where you could take the

8:30

battery out right and the one beautiful

8:33

thing about technology is if there’s no

8:34

electricity in it right if there’s

8:36

there’s no go juice available to it if

8:39

there’s no battery connected to it it’s

8:41

not sending anything because you have to

8:42

get power from somewhere you have

8:44

to have power in order to do work but

8:48

now your phones are all sealed right you

8:50

can’t take the batteries out so there

8:53

are potential ways that you can hack a

8:55

phone where it appears to be off but

8:57

it’s not actually off it’s just

8:58

pretending to be off whereas in fact

9:00

it’s still listening in and doing all

9:02

this stuff but for the average person

9:04

that doesn’t apply right and I got to

9:07

tell you guys they’ve been chasing me

9:08

all over the place I don’t worry about

9:11

that stuff right and it’s because if

9:14

they are applying that level of effort

9:15

to me I don’t probably get the same

9:18

information through other routes I am as

9:21

careful as I can and I use things like

9:24

Faraday cages I turn devices off but if

9:26

they’re actually manipulating the way

9:29

devices display it’s just too great a

9:32

level of effort even for someone like me

9:34

to keep that up on a constant basis also

9:36

if they get me I only trust phones so

9:40

much so there’s only so much they can

9:42

derive from the compromise and this is

9:43

how operational security works you think

9:47

about what are the realistic threats

9:49

that you’re facing that you’re trying to

9:51

mitigate and with the mitigation that

9:54

you’re trying to do is what would be the

9:56

loss what would be the damage done to

9:58

you if this stuff was exploited much

10:02

more realistic than worrying about these

10:04

things that I call voodoo hex right

10:06

which are like next level stuff and

10:07

actually just a shout out for those of

10:10

your readers who are interested in this

10:12

stuff fun I wrote a paper on this

10:15

specific problem how do you know when a

10:17

phone is actually off how do you know

10:18

when it’s actually not spying on you

10:20

with a brilliant brilliant guy named

10:23

Andrew bunny Huang he’s an MIT PhD and I

10:26

think electrical engineering called the

10:30

introspection engine that was published

10:33

in the Journal of open engineering you

10:35

can find it online and it’ll go as deep

10:38

down in the weeds I promise you it as

10:40

you want we take an iPhone 6 this was

10:43

back when I was fairly new and we

10:45

modified it so we could actually not

10:48

trust the device to report its own state

10:50

but physically monitor its state to see

10:52

if of spying on you but for average

10:53

people right this academic

10:57

that’s not your primary threat your

11:00

primary threats are these bulk

11:01

collection programs your primary threat

11:04

is the fact that your phone is

11:06

constantly squawking to these cell phone

11:08

towers it’s doing all these things

11:09

because we leave our phones in a state

11:12

that is constantly on you’re constantly

11:14

connected right airplane mode doesn’t

11:17

even turn off Wi-Fi really anymore it

11:19

just turns off the cellular modem but

11:23

the whole idea is we need to identify

11:26

the problem and the central problem with

11:28

smart phone use today is you have no

11:31

idea what the hell it’s doing at any

11:32

given time like the phone has the screen

11:34

off you don’t know what it’s connected

11:36

to

11:36

you don’t know how frequently it’s doing

11:38

it Apple and iOS unfortunately makes it

11:41

impossible to see what kind of network

11:43

connections are constantly made on the

11:45

device and to inter mediate them going I

11:47

don’t want Facebook to be able to talk

11:49

right now you know I don’t want Google

11:50

to be able to talk right now

11:52

I just want my secure messenger app to

11:55

be able to talk I just want my weather

11:57

app to be able to talk but I just

11:59

checked my weather and now I’m done with

12:01

it so I don’t want that to be able to

12:02

talk anymore and we need to be able to

12:04

make these intelligent decisions on not

12:07

just an app by app basis but a

12:09

connection by connection basis right you

12:11

want let’s say you use Facebook because

12:14

you know for whatever judgment we have a

12:17

lot of people might do it you want it to

12:20

be able to connect to Facebook’s content

12:23

servers you want to be able to message a

12:25

friend you want to be able to download a

12:27

photograph or whatever but you don’t

12:29

want it to be able to talk to an ad

12:30

server you don’t want it to talk to an

12:32

analytic server that that’s monitoring

12:33

your behavior right you don’t want to

12:35

talk to all these third-party things

12:36

because Facebook crams they’re garbage

12:38

and almost every app that you download

12:40

and you don’t even know what’s happening

12:42

because you can’t see it right and this

12:44

is the problem with the data collection

12:46

used today is there is an industry that

12:49

is built on keeping this invisible and

12:52

what we need to do is we need to make

12:54

the activities of our devices whether

12:58

it’s a phone whether it’s computer or

12:59

whatever more visible and understandable

13:02

to the average person and then give them

13:04

control over it so like if you could see

13:06

your phone right now and at the very

13:09

center of his

13:09

green icon that’s your you know handset

13:12

or it’s a picture your face whatever and

13:14

then you see all these little spokes

13:16

coming off of it that’s every app that

13:19

your phone is talking to right now or

13:22

every app that is active on your phone

13:23

right now and all the hosts that it’s

13:25

connecting to and you can see right now

13:27

what’s every three seconds your phone is

13:30

checking into Facebook and you could

13:33

just poke that app and then BOOM

13:35

it’s not talking to Facebook anymore

13:36

Facebook’s not allowed Facebook speaking

13:38

privileges have been revoked right you

13:40

would do that we would all do that if

13:43

there was a button on your phone that

13:44

said do what I want but not spy on me

13:47

you would press that button right that

13:51

button is not a does not exist right now

13:53

and both Google and Apple

13:55

unfortunately Apple’s a lot better at

13:56

this than Google but neither of them

14:00

allow that button to exist in fact they

14:03

actively interfere with it because they

14:05

say it’s a security risk and from a

14:07

particular perspective they they

14:09

actually aren’t wrong there

14:10

but it’s not enough to go you know we

14:14

have to lock that capability off from

14:15

people because we don’t trust they would

14:17

make the right decisions we think it’s

14:19

too complicated for people to do this we

14:21

think there’s too many connections being

14:23

made well that is actually a confession

14:26

of the problem right there if you think

14:28

people can’t understand it if you think

14:30

there are too many communications

14:32

happening if you think there’s too much

14:33

complexity in there it needs to be

14:35

simplified just like the president can’t

14:38

control everything like that if you have

14:39

to be the president of the phone and the

14:41

phone is as complex as the United States

14:43

government we have a problem guys this

14:46

should be a much more simple process it

14:47

should be obvious and the fact that it’s

14:49

not and the fact that we read story

14:51

after story

14:52

year after year saying all your data

14:54

then breached here this companies spying

14:57

on you here this companies manipulating

14:59

your purchases or your search results or

15:01

they’re hiding these things from your

15:03

timeline or they’re influencing your you

15:07

are manipulating it in all of these

15:08

different ways that happens as a result

15:11

of a single problem and that problem is

15:17

in any quality of available information

15:20

they can see everything about you

15:22

can see everything about what your

15:23

device is doing and they can do whatever

15:24

they want with your device you on the

15:26

other hand owns the device well rather

15:30

you paid for the device but increasingly

15:33

these corporations on it increasingly

15:35

these governments own it and

15:37

increasingly we are living in a world

15:38

where we do all the work right we pay

15:41

all the taxes we pay all the costs but

15:45

we own less and less and nobody

15:48

understands this better than the

15:50

youngest generation well it seems like

15:51

our data became a commodity before we

15:54

understood what it was it became this

15:56

thing that’s insanely valuable to Google

15:59

and Facebook and all these social media

16:01

platforms before we understood what we

16:03

were giving up they were making billions

16:05

of dollars and then once that money is

16:08

being earned and once everyone’s

16:10

accustomed to this situation it’s very

16:12

difficult to pull the reins back it’s

16:14

very difficult to turn that horse around

16:16

precisely because the money then becomes

16:19

pot right right the information that

16:21

becomes influence that also seems to be

16:23

the same sort of situation that would

16:24

happen with these mass surveillance

16:25

states once they have the access it’s

16:28

going to be incredibly difficult for

16:30

them to relinquish that right yeah no

16:33

you’re you’re exactly correct and this

16:36

is the the subject of the book I mean

16:38

this is this is the permanent record and

16:39

this is where it came from this is how

16:40

it came to exist the story of our

16:44

lifetimes is how intentionally by design

16:50

a number of institutions both

16:53

governmental and corporate realized it

16:56

was in their mutual interest to conceal

16:59

their data collection activities to

17:01

increase the breadth and depth of their

17:05

sensor networks that were sort of spread

17:07

out for society remember back in the day

17:10

intelligence collection in the United

17:12

States even at Sigyn used to me sending

17:15

an FBI agent right to put alligator

17:17

clips on an embassy building or sending

17:19

in somebody disguised as a workman and

17:23

they put a bug in a building or they

17:26

built a satellite listening site right

17:29

we called these foreign set or foreign

17:31

satellite collection

17:32

we’re out in the desert somewhere they

17:34

built a big parabolic collector and it’s

17:38

just listening to satellite emissions

17:40

right but these satellite emissions

17:43

these satellite links were owned by

17:45

militaries they were exclusive to

17:47

governments right it wasn’t affecting

17:49

everybody broadly all surveillance was

17:52

targeted because it had to be what

17:56

changed with technology is that

17:57

surveillance could now become

17:59

indiscriminate it could become dragnet

18:02

it could become bulk collection which

18:05

should become one of the dirtiest

18:06

phrases in the language if we have any

18:09

kind of decency but we were

18:11

intentionally this was intentionally

18:15

concealed from us right the government

18:17

did it they used classification

18:19

companies did it they intentionally

18:22

didn’t talk about it they denied these

18:24

things were going they they said you

18:26

agreed to this and you did agree to

18:28

nothing like this I’m sorry right they

18:31

go we put that Terms of Service page up

18:33

and you click that you clicked a button

18:36

that said I agree because you were

18:38

trying to open an account so you could

18:40

talk to your friends you were trying to

18:42

get driving directions you were trying

18:44

to get an email account you weren’t

18:45

trying to agree to some 600 page legal

18:48

form that even if you read you wouldn’t

18:50

understand and it doesn’t matter even if

18:52

you did understand because one of the

18:54

very first paragraphs and I said this

18:56

agreement can be changed at any time

18:57

unilaterally without your consent by the

19:00

company right they have built a legal

19:04

paradigm that presumes records collected

19:08

about us do not belong to us this is

19:13

sort of one of the core principles on

19:15

which mass surveillance from the

19:16

government’s perspective in the United

19:18

States is legal and you have to

19:20

understand that all this stuff we talked

19:21

about today government says everything

19:23

they do is legal right and they go so

19:25

it’s fine our perspectives the public

19:27

should be well that’s actually the

19:30

problem because this isn’t okay the

19:32

scandal isn’t how they’re breaking the

19:34

law the scandals that they don’t have to

19:36

break the law

19:38

and the way they say they’re not

19:40

breaking the law is something called the

19:41

third party doctrine a third party

19:43

doctrine is a legal principle and

19:48

derived from a case and I believe the

19:50

1970s called Smith versus Maryland and

19:54

Smith was this knucklehead who was

19:58

harassing this lady making phone calls

20:00

to her house and when she would pick up

20:03

he just I don’t know is that their heavy

20:05

breathing would ever like a classic

20:06

creeper and you know it was terrifying

20:10

this poor lady so she calls the cops and

20:14

says one day I got one of these phone

20:15

calls and I see this car

20:17

creeping past my house on the street and

20:20

she got a license-plate number so she

20:22

goes to the cops and she goes is this

20:24

the guy had the cops again they’re

20:27

trying to do a good thing here they look

20:30

up his license-plate number and they

20:33

find out where this guy is and then they

20:35

go what phone numbers registered to that

20:37

house and they go to the phone company

20:38

and they say can you give us this record

20:39

the phone company says yeah sure and

20:41

it’s the guy the cops got their man

20:44

right so they go arrest this guy and

20:47

then in court his lawyer brings all this

20:50

stuff up and they go you did this

20:58

without a warrant that was sorry that

20:59

was that was the the problem was they

21:02

went to the phone company they got the

21:03

records without a warrant they just

21:04

asked for it or they subpoenaed it right

21:06

some lower standard of legal review and

21:08

the company gave it to him and got the

21:10

guy they marched more in jail and they

21:15

could have gotten a warrant right but it

21:16

was just expedience they just didn’t

21:18

want to take the time with small-town

21:19

cops you can understand how it happens

21:21

they know the guy’s a creeper they just

21:23

want to get him off to jail and so they

21:26

made him I said but the government

21:27

doesn’t want to let go they fight on

21:29

this and they go it wasn’t actually they

21:34

weren’t his records and so because they

21:37

didn’t belong to him he didn’t have a

21:39

Fourth Amendment right to demand a

21:43

warrant be issued for them they were the

21:45

company’s records and the company

21:47

provided them voluntarily and hence

21:49

Warren was required because you can give

21:51

whatever you want without a warrant

21:52

as long as it’s yours now here’s the

21:55

problem the government extrapolated a

21:58

principle in a single case of a single

22:01

known suspected criminal who had they

22:03

had real good reasons suspect suspect

22:06

was their guy and used that to go to a

22:11

company and get records from them and

22:13

establish a precedent these records

22:15

don’t belong to the guy they belong to

22:17

the company and then they said well if

22:19

one person doesn’t have a Fourth

22:22

Amendment interest in records held by a

22:23

company no one does and so the company

22:26

then has absolute proprietary ownership

22:29

of all of these records about all of our

22:31

lives and we’re going to this is back in

22:32

the 1970s you know the internet hardly

22:35

exists in these kind of contexts smart

22:38

phones you know don’t exist modern

22:40

society modern communications don’t

22:42

exist this is the very beginning of the

22:44

technological era and flash-forward now

22:49

40 years and they are still relying on

22:56

this precedent about this one

22:58

you know pervy creeper to go nobody has

23:01

a privacy right for anything that’s held

23:02

by a company and so long as they do that

23:05

companies are going to be

23:06

extraordinarily powerful and they’re

23:08

going to be extraordinary abusive and

23:09

this is something that people don’t get

23:11

they go oh well it’s data collection

23:14

right they’re exploiting data huh this

23:16

is data about human lives mistake about

23:20

people these records are about you it’s

23:22

not data that’s being exploited it’s

23:26

people that are being exploited it’s not

23:29

data that’s being manipulated it’s you

23:33

that’s being a manipulated and this this

23:37

is this is something that I think a lot

23:39

of people are beginning to understand

23:42

the problem is the companies and the

23:44

government’s are still pretending they

23:45

don’t understand or Oh disagreeing with

23:46

this and this is my my ends me of

23:48

something that one of my old friends

23:50

John Perry Barlow who served with me at

23:55

the freedom of the press foundation I’m

23:56

the president of the board

23:58

used to say to me which is you can’t

24:03

awaken someone who’s pretending to be

24:05

asleep

24:11

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