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Roger Waters on Julian Assange’s Freedom https://youtu.be/gsTYG-OKhRU?si=iKE5rloE1liYpQwE

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what amazing news I started getting weird cryptic  texts from activists in the United States and um  

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I didn’t believe it I so I sort of tried to  roll over and go and then I thought hang on a  

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minute about look into and suddenly there at Wars  over everywhere he’s on his way to stanstead or  

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somewhere or other got in a plane boom gone and  then he’s got to stop at some American islands  

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where they’re going to sign a document saying  that he’s taken to plea cop to plea as we say  

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in the business then he’ll be in Australia with  Stella and the boys it’s quite moving if you think  

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about it I went and saw him in prison so I met  the boys last September and I’ve seen seen Stella  

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and been in contact with a lot of them and a lot  of the team and they’ve all worked so crazy hard  

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on his behalf but all the people who’ve worked for  Julian over these years that he’s been wrongly Inc  

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erated a man who’s committed no crime well one  Mana B bail infringement and that’s it nothing  

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else all this Espionage whatever is a load of  bollocks obviously but the fact that he’s out  

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and that he’s going to see the sunshine and  hear Bird’s song and and that they can look  

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after him a bit because he’s not well um is very  moving so more strength you know what I’d like to  

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see me old Mara I’d like to see you back at work  at Wikileaks we need more somebody has to pick  

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up the culs and keep up the amazing brilliant work  that you did um and obviously the retribution that  

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has been Meed out for you to you for telling the  truth to us poor Sinners has been extraordinary  

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and disgusting and Despicable beyond all measure  and uh if our politicians the suxs and starers and  

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of this world and Biden and the rest of them take  some stick for this so they should because it’s  

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been disgusting but you we must not be silenced so  any journalist obviously who any bid who decides  

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to be a journalist now going into mainstream  journalism you have to refuse to keep your mouth  

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shut you must not do what they tell you to do even  if they offer you a job at the gry ad or the New  

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York Times or some Mainstream other mainstream rag  do not do it do your job of telling the rest of us  

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the truth about what is going on in the world like  Julian Assan has done please I think cuz we admire  

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him so much much and he’s done so much for us good  on you Julian good on you mate thank you thank you  

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for the huge sacrifice you made for the rest  of us Double Down News so important mainstream  

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media through Julian Assange to the Wolves we  need doubled Down News to help keep us informed

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“What are the differences between Mark Zuckerberg and me? I give private information on corporations to you for free, and I’m a villain. Zuckerberg gives your private information to corporations for money and he’s Man of the Year.” ~ Julian Assangeo

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America’s Dark Day

Scott Ritter

Jun 25, 2024

Julian Assange

By allowing the US government to compel Julian Assange to plead guilty to a crime he did not commit, America has condemned itself to be a land where telling the truth is a crime.

The press was to serve the governed, not the governors. The Government’s power to censor the press was abolished so that the press would remain forever free to censure the Government. The press was protected so that it could bare the secrets of the government and inform the people. Only a free and unrestrained press can effectively expose deception in government. And paramount among the responsibilities of a free press is the duty to prevent any part of the government from deceiving the people and sending them off to distant lands to die of foreign fevers and foreign shot and shell.”

Justice Hugo Black, The New York Times versus The United States, 1971

Julian Assange is soon scheduled to appear before a US Court on the island of Saipan, where he is expected to plead guilty to a single violation of the Espionage Act, namely conspiring to obtain and disclose national defense information.

Assange is guilty of no crime. It is the United States government which operates in violation of the law and, by suppressing Julian Assange’s duty as a publisher to expose deception on part of the government about war crimes committed by American servicemembers in Iraq and other lies and deceptions perpetrated by the State Department and Department of Defense, in gross disregard for the First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States.

By subjecting Julian Assange to five years of imprisonment under horrific conditions in a British maximum-security prison, where he was held under solitary confinement 23 hours a day, the US government broke the spirit and will of a man whose cause had come to personify the fundamental issue of free speech.

The UN Special Rapporteur for Human Rights, Juan E. Mendez, has declared that “[s]olitary confinement, [as a punishment] cannot be justified for any reason, precisely because it imposes severe mental pain and suffering beyond any reasonable retribution for criminal behavior and thus constitutes an act defined [as]…torture.”

Every American, whether they operate as a journalist or simply a citizen who believes in the fundamental right of free speech and a free press, must understand the significance of what Assange’s plea deal means—it is a frontal assault on free speech, effectively overturning the landmark Supreme Court decision in The New York Times versus The United States that spawned Hugo Black’s words in defense of this basic American freedom.

Let there be no doubt: Julian Assange is free, but free speech and the notion of a free press is dead in America today, killed by our collective passivity in the face of the brutalization of Julian Assange by the US government for the “crime” of exposing their crimes for all the world to see.

The truth no longer sets us free.

Rather, shining light on the inconvenient truth has become a crimeAmerica is a far worse place today than it was before our government compelled this plea agreement from Julian Assange.

This is a dark day in the history of our country.

Bideoa: (inside the atrticle)

Scott will discuss the Julian Assange situation and answer audience questions on Ep. 171 of Ask the Inspector.

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EU leaders have agreed on von der Leyen’s candidacy for a second term

Kallas will also receive one of the highest positions in the EU. She has been appointed as Borrell’s successor.

Europe is Entering a Spiral of Self-Destruction.

Irudia

Irudia

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You are charged with aiding genocide in Gaza

@vonderleyen says an activist: you are a criminal and you should be in The Hague #BangOn

Bideoa: https://x.com/i/status/1805607049994133936

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Irudia

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Vietnam The US lied about the Gulf of Tonkin incident to drag the nation into a needless conflict. (1964)

?￰゚ヌᄐ Kuwait The US lied about Iraqi soldiers taking babies out of incubators to rally support for a war against Iraq. (1990)

Serbia The US lied about Serbian actions in Kosovo to justify NATO bombings and expand Western influence in the Balkans. (1999)

Afghanistan The US lied about its reasons for invading, hiding the true objectives related to pipeline politics and opium fields. (2001)

Iraq The US lied about Saddam Hussein having weapons of mass destruction to justify a war for oil. (2003)

Libya The US lied about Gaddafi’s threats to civilians to establish control over North African resources. (2011)

Syria The US lied about Assad’s use of chemical weapons as an excuse to topple a sovereign regime. (2013)

Ukraine The US lied about Russian aggression to further NATO’s encroachment on Russian borders. (2014)

Only ignorant fools believe that, this time, the US is telling the whole truth about the Israeli Palestinian conflict….

#ReformUK #Farage #NigelFarage

Bideoa: https://x.com/i/status/1805626327292166627

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Sony Thang@nxt888

SCOTT RITTER:

“Russia had been a nation under Vladimir Putin for some time that sought to cooperate with the West as a partner.

Russia always viewed itself as a partner with the West and feels especially betrayed by the West with what’s been going on in Ukraine and how the West has performed.

What Vladimir Putin did on this trip [in East Asia] was send a signal that the partnership is over.

One of the key aspects of this partnership was the way Russia worked with the United Nations, with China, and others to put pressure on North Korea to walk away from its nuclear weapons program.

Russia was not an advocate of North Korea’s nuclear weapons program as it violated Russia’s sensibilities when it came to nuclear nonproliferation.

Russia had signed on to many of the sanctions that had been imposed on North Korea.

But now that Russia has been subjected to sanctions and sees that the West is not interested in equitable solutions but rather using the processes of sanctioning and so-called consensus-building to destroy nations and achieve outcomes only positive for the United States, Russia has walked away and said that’s over.

Russia has engaged with North Korea on a level that I don’t think the American people fully comprehend.

This is a strategic engagement from top to bottom, and it changes everything.

One of the things that plagued North Korea was food shortages.

They had a major problem with their agricultural sector, and a significant part of their labor force was diverted to very inefficient agricultural practices that often failed and led to starvation, reducing the efficiency of the workforce.

North Koreans will never go hungry again—Russia will guarantee their food supplies.

This liberates a good section of their workforce, now well-fed, to be integrated into an expanding industry thoroughly integrated with Russia’s industry, which has been thriving since the imposition of sanctions by the West.

This includes both defense and civil industries.

This will radically transform North Korea.

North Korea will never be the same, looking back.

The irony here is that it could have been an American president being driven down the streets of Pyongyang.

Donald Trump tried to achieve an outcome that would have eliminated North Korea’s nuclear weapons, brought North Korea into the fold, allowed North Korea this kind of economic development, and denied Russia this wonderful geopolitical strategic opportunity.

But Trump failed, betrayed by John Bolton and Mike Pompeo.

Joe Biden refused to pick up the baton, even though Kim Jong-un held it out, saying, ‘Please, please, please run with this; we want to go in this direction.’

Now, instead of a denuclearized North Korea, we have a North Korea that is sitting on very advanced ballistic missiles with nuclear weapons on top, and they’re only going to get better.

Vladimir Putin committed to turning over technology and weapon systems that will strengthen North Korea.

North Korea’s nuclear deterrent is going to become so robust that any American preemption will be prohibited.

There will be no American, South Korean, or Japanese victory over North Korea going forward.

North Korea is now strategically aligned with Russia—you go to war with North Korea, you’re going to war with Russia.

There’s a famous photograph, or infamous depending on your point of view, that shows the Korean Peninsula.

People use it to mock North Korea, showing South Korea all lit up and then the North dark, with only a tiny dot where Pyongyang is.

In three years, you’re going to see North Korea lit up like never before.

This is transformational and empowering because, in one stroke, Vladimir Putin destroyed the Trilateral alliance that the United States was seeking to build with Japan and South Korea.

Japan and South Korea now recognize that North Korea isn’t just not going away; it’s going to be stronger than ever.

If Japan and South Korea want to survive in this region, they need to start doing business with North Korea.

This is a fundamental game changer.

Then, Putin went to Vietnam.

The important thing about Vietnam is that it has been wooed by the United States.

We tried to strengthen our ties with Vietnam through the ASEAN organization.

By receiving Vladimir Putin the way they did, Vietnam said to the West, ‘You can’t count on us; we’re not with you. We’re with these guys. These are the guys we want to be with.’

This is a recognition on the part of Vietnam, and now we see Malaysia, another ASEAN nation, saying, ‘Hey, we want to join BRICS.’

Vietnam’s going to want to join BRICS.

Everybody’s going to want to join BRICS.

BRICS is a game-changing forum, and Vladimir Putin, of course, is the head of the BRICS meeting this year.

Vladimir Putin is leading the charge.

What he did is set Russia’s marker down on the Pacific in the same way he has set it down in Africa.

Russia is a dominant force in the Pacific today.

This was supposed to be America’s pivot to the Pacific.

This was supposed to be our region of the world.

And Russia said, ‘Not today, Charlie!'”

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IN GAZA…

THERE WERE THREE HAPPY SISTERS,

THEN THEY BECAME TWO,

THEN ONE,

CARRYING HER SISTER IN A BAG.

ISRAEL KILLED HAPPINESS IN THIS FAMILY.

Irudia

Irudia

Irudia

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Torah Judaism@TorahJudaism

These lands are called Palestine. This is the state of Palestine and its capital is Jerusalem. There is no state called Israel. Israel, which was founded on the Palestinian state, is a fake state. They established a terrorist state on stolen lands. Torah Jews do not call themselves Israelis, they call themselves Palestinian Jews.

PALESTINE WILL BE FREE

Irudia

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@TorahJudaism

erabiltzaileari erantzuten

Palestine in 1938, when Muslims, Christians, and Palestinian Jews lived together, and before it was occupied, its people were killed or displaced, and it was called Israel.

Bideoa: https://x.com/i/status/1805552620636909752

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?￰゚ヌᄎ Russia at the UN: “We demand that Israel abandon the Rafah operation. We call for an immediate unconditional ceasefire, the release of hostages and Palestinian detainees.”

Bideoa: https://x.com/i/status/1805731867586433062

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Dmitry Medvedev@MedvedevRussiaE

We will survive these new sanctions. But we won’t forgive and forget, we’ve got a good memory. We won’t leave without response the intent to harm our people. There will be hell to pay! https://t.me/medvedev_teleg

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Chris Hedges@ChrisLynnHedges

The Israel lobby’s buying off of nearly every senior politician in the United States, facilitated by our system of legalized bribery, is not an antisemitic trope. It is a fact. The lobby’s campaign of vicious character assassination, smearing and blacklisting those who defend Palestinian rights—including the Jewish historian Norman Finkelstein and university students, many of them Jewish, in organizations such as Students for Justice in Palestine—is not an antisemitic trope. It is a fact. Thirty-eight state governments’ passage of Israel lobby-backed legislation requiring their workers and contractors, under threat of dismissal, to sign a pro-Israel oath and promise not to support the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement is not an antisemitic trope. It is a fact. The House bill, now before the Senate, that will broaden the legal definition of antisemitism to include the “targeting of the state of Israel, conceived as a Jewish collectivity” is not an antisemitic trope. It is a fact. The US refusal, including in the UN and other international bodies, to criticize Israel’s apartheid state and the genocide in Gaza is not an antisemitic trope. It is a fact. The well-funded campaigns by the Israel lobby, which works closely with Israel’s Ministry of Strategic Affairs, to discredit any American politician or academic who even slightly deviates from Israeli policy is not an antisemitic trope. It is a fact (one infamous example of a US politician kowtowing was the unconstitutional invitation by then-House Speaker John Boehner to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to address Congress in 2015 to denounce President Barack Obama’s Iranian nuclear agreement). The massive interference in our internal affairs by Israel and the Israel lobby, far exceeding that of any other country, including Russia or China, is not an antisemitic trope. It is a fact.

Aipamena

Matt Kennard@kennardmatt

Eka. 20

Jeremy Corbyn says during a meeting with the Parliamentary Labour Party Committee he was confronted and asked to give assurances that as Labour leader – and potentially prime minister – he would automatically support any military action Israel undertakes?

Bideoa: https://x.com/i/status/1803705328124547222

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Vice Speaker of the Slovak Parliament Lubos Blaha: “Ukrainians are bombing women and children in Crimea with Western weapons. This is called murder. And no one says anything. 

During the so-called peace farce of the West in Geneva, key independent powers did not sign the final anti-Russian communiqué.  This is a complete failure for the West. And I applaud enthusiastically. The world is tired of Russophobia.

Let’s face it – the West is losing the war against Russia. In a military, political and moral sense.  You don’t need to do anything special, just grab some popcorn and watch how the warmongers in the West lose, how their own people rise up against them, how neoliberalism falls to the bottom.

Everything is over. The whole world is rebelling against the West. From Jakarta to Caracas. The Russians never humiliated these peoples, unlike the Westerners. And they know it well.  Only a few weeks or months will pass, and the entire globalist project of progressive liberalism will end.”

The population in the West still perceives this war of the United States and NATO against Russia in Ukraine as distant and not affecting them in any way war. You can eat popcorn and watch. I’m afraid that you are all wrong. This is your war too, and it can end very badly. Your Western rulers intend to defeat Russia. This is just idiocy and suicide. https://t.me/vicktop55/25158

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Pelham@Resist_05

Thousands of starving Palestinians wait for food aid to be airdropped on the northern Gaza Strip. Israel has destroyed and closed all the border crossings…?￰゚ヌᄌ?

Bideoa: https://x.com/i/status/1805397571978018864

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Westerners always cry about lack of elections in China.

What elections were conducted to elect the most powerful leader of the EU?

None!

Ursula von der Leyen is selected by international bankers, military industrial complex and their swarm of insiders. Not regular Europeans.

Irudia

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Ilan Pappe:I hope for the end of Israel and the creation of free Palesti… https://youtu.be/vx0QUTui6GY?si=mCesZAR7Ij7T-p71

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Bideoa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx0QUTui6GY

Transkripzioa:

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[Applause]

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thank you anas uh thank you the Cordova

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Foundation uh Middle East Monitor Halal

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Center special thanks to my dear friends

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Rada and N for sharing uh the podium and

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Dr dud Abdullah and one world for

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enabling me to publish this book I’m

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particularly moved by having the friends

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here with me on the panel I think I met

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rather in 1981 for the first time you

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can calculate the years we don’t want to

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calculate the years we met at the house

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of parliament of all places by an event

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I don’t know if you remember rather

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organized by The

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Spectator uh with the PLO representative

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at the time uh I rather was aware of

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something I wasn’t aw when we met when I

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told her because she liked much of what

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I said already 1981 and I said to her

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you see not all the zionists are bad and

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R said to me you might not be a Zionist

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but you don’t know it and it took some

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time before I realized myself that

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actually the views I express could not

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have been defined as Zionist ideas but

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it took time for me to liberate myself

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from that

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ideology and uh as already mentioned uh

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I uh rather I appeared again uh in the

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book uh and at a time in the UK when it

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was very difficult to speak for

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Palestine to stand for

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Palestine uh and it took a lot of

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courage and a lot of effort and

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commitment to insist that Palestine

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should be represented in the public

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domain in the media in politics and uh

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we are standing on wide shoulders today

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due to the immense and incredible work

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by activists like Dr Rak Cari GRE V also

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great pleasure to see my dear friend N I

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was trying to remember when I met you

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first but it’s also in the very distant

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uh past although n and I were born not

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far away from each other geographically

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I think we only met outside of

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Palestine uh and uh what I do remember

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is that that n and I participated in a

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very naive effort by our dear friend

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Edward the late Edward S he was

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sometimes naive he brought Israeli and

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Palestinian historians to Paris in 1999

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we won’t mention the names of the

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Israeli historians 97 97 in ’97 Paris in

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Paris and he uh thought that there was a

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common ground to to agree about the

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version of History if you remember no

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and he was deeply deeply disappointed

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that there was no common ground and this

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is important for him it was important

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because at that time together with

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Daniel burb may he live long uh they

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thought that they found a recipe for

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coexistence that was not very relevant

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to the reality on the ground and Dr dud

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I think you you invited me many years

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ago for a conference in London and it

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was for me the first experience of being

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introduced to the world of the Muslim

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Community in Britain and its very

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special

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commitment uh and devotion to the

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Palestine question it opened for me and

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new world of uh alliances

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friendships uh and winning the

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confidence of the community is something

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I really cherish and appreciate and uh

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without the help of this community it

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would have been very difficult for me to

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withstand the kind of pressures that all

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of us uh are witnessing when we speak

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freely and truthfully for uh Palestine

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so thank you all for being here and I

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really appreciate it I uh wanted to

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write this book because of a conundrum

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that really interested me and intrigued

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me over the years how come a state that

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is declared to be a high-tech state with

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the strongest army in the Middle East

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with the full support of the United

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States and the West still tries to

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advocate for its legitimacy so many

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years after why is this lack of

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certainty by the state itself and

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whoever represents it that maybe its

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legitimacy is questioned on the one hand

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on the other hand why the Palestinian

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case and cause which is very simple in

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many ways and very easy to understand as

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a basic moral

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issue still does not succeed to become a

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legit imate cause in so many places

5:02

where decision are made where policies

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are

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pursued and uh I thought that this kind

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of conundrum needs uh not a soundbite

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answer which usually we we need to give

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under the pressure of media and so on

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but maybe I need to go back in history

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and very uh slowly

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reconstruct the history of lobbying for

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Zionism to try and understand why today

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we are where we are and this is why I

5:32

apologize for the length of the book I

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know that many people don’t like to read

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books at all and many people don’t like

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to read long books uh there’s sometimes

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people who prefer just to look at the

5:45

screen of the

5:47

smartphone uh it’s not an SMS book um

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but I do hope that uh the the patient

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will pay because you need to really go

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step by step from the begin beginning to

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understand the longivity of the lobby

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its

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Effectiveness but maybe hopefully also

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realize its deficiencies and weaknesses

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so that we have a hopeful vision for the

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future and not just lament all the time

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what true is true the total imbalance of

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power on the ground in the region in in

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the global system that explains why we

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are where we are uh uh today another

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reasons for the ra rather length uh

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length of the book is the fact that I

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wanted to bring long

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citations uh from British and American

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politicians in particular both those who

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supported Zionism but also those who

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opposed Zionism it’s amazing to read

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statements by both sides of the uh

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argument from 1900 or 1905 which are

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really prophetic are really prophetic in

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the sense of understanding what the uh

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support for a Jewish state in Palestine

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would do to the Palestinians and to the

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area as a

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whole understanding what kind of

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complication it would create for the

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Jewish communities wherever they are so

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you have these people with you know

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ability which is incredible at a given

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moment in history to see beyond the

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moment to see into the future and it

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gives you a sense and I think anas that

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connects well to what you was saying

7:41

that we are still in that historical P

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chapter it’s not we don’t have a closure

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for that uh chapter and I could call

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this chapter the Western idea that the

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problem of the Jews in the West can only

7:58

be solved by colonizing Palestine at the

8:02

expense of the Palestinians and how

8:04

would we continue to defend this

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horrible idea and uh uh give uh immunity

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to its practices and policies against

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the Palestinians wherever they

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are and although I was familiar myself

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with with many chapters uh in the

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history both of Palestine and of

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Zionism uh I was still uh uh surprised

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to be reminded of certain uh stages in

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the progress of the lobbying for Zionism

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which really ring through today and

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relevant today for instance the fact

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that Zionism began as an Evangelical

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Christian project before it became a

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Jewish one that the whole idea that the

8:57

return of the Jews to Palestine is is

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part of a Divine scheme that will

9:02

precipitate the second coming of the

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Messiah the resurrection of the dead and

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maybe the beginning of 1,000 years of

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Jesus’s rule on on earth now it was not

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every Evangelical stream in thinking

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that thought that way but it was an an

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important part of Evangelical

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Christianity beginning in Britain and

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transformed into the United States by

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people at who first you could call them

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theologians rather than politicians but

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very soon some of them became

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politicians of importance and they

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especially in Britain they provided a

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certain theological justification for a

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new Imperial thinking not just about

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Palestine but of the whole Eastern

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Mediterranean the mashrek because the

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British uh uh basic view on the Eastern

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Mediterranean throughout the 19th

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century was that although the Ottoman

10:03

Empire that ruled that area was in

10:05

Decline it was better to keep it intact

10:08

because a disintegration of the Empire

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would create a a a struggle for spoils

10:15

among the European powers and could lead

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to something which would be called later

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on a World War which in fact is what

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what happened but the pressure of those

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Evangelical Christians who to together

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with British imperialists who thought

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that it’s time to seed from the Ottoman

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Empire the Eastern

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Mediterranean brought together first of

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all a non-jewish support for the idea of

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what they would call The Return of the

10:46

Jews to Palestine and the replacement of

10:50

the Palestinian with a Jewish Kingdom or

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state or Republic depends of who we are

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talking about now it means that already

11:00

throughout the 19th century people were

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discussing the fate of Palestine and the

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Palestinians without the Palestinians

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being aware that are becoming a regional

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project or even a global project of

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colonization and I was surprised to see

11:18

how much this kind of thinking

11:20

influenced the early Jewish uh

11:22

supporters of Zionism because I always

11:24

thought that this was were kind of too

11:27

discrete projects that had nothing to do

11:30

with it but then I I read a diary by one

11:33

of the most important early Zionist

11:36

elazar Ben Yuda who reinvented the

11:38

Hebrew language he was very much

11:41

influenced by Evangelical

11:44

Christianity and changed his mind about

11:46

Zionism in the sense that he said yes we

11:50

might we should redefine Judaism not as

11:53

a religion but as a nationalism but I

11:56

think they are right it should happen in

11:58

Palestine and and not anywhere else so

12:00

there was an impact of that kind of

12:03

thinking the Imperial thinking the

12:05

theological thinking coming from

12:08

Christianity on the very nent very small

12:12

number of Jewish intellectuals who

12:14

thought that the best solution for

12:17

anti-Semitism in Central and Eastern

12:19

Europe was to uh create or establish a

12:23

Jewish State uh in in Palestine so

12:26

that’s the beginning which as you can

12:29

probably understand today is not just an

12:33

intellectual uh or an interesting

12:35

forgotten chapter of the past it’s still

12:38

a very relevant Alliance that is still

12:42

working today by the way not only in the

12:44

United States where we are all familiar

12:47

with the term Christian Zionist as a

12:49

Lobby that supports Israel you go to

12:51

Sweden you go to Denmark you go to

12:54

Norway Christian Zionism is a life in

12:57

Europe and in the united k om as well as

13:01

as an idea that uh uh supports Israel

13:05

unconditionally in the name of the same

13:08

theology that began the whole Zionist

13:11

project to my surprise when I was in

13:13

Malaysia I met leaders of the Christian

13:16

Community in Malaysia and they also are

13:18

very much under the influence of

13:20

Christian zionists uh uh in in that

13:23

respect so this is an alliance of the

13:26

past which is still steadfast

13:29

uh uh uh today the second uh uh again

13:34

note in the book that reminded me of

13:37

things that I forgotten and I thought

13:39

are very relevant for today is the

13:43

insistence of every leading finger

13:47

figure sorry in the anglo-jewish

13:50

community and also in some of the

13:52

western uh Jewish communities people

13:55

with uh status with position

13:59

some of them ministers in in cabinet

14:02

some of them important business figures

14:05

in their society I was surprised to re

14:09

reminded that they made sure that

14:11

everybody would understand that they

14:15

themselves would never go to Palestine

14:19

that they felt safe in Britain that they

14:21

saw no reason whatsoever to create a

14:24

Jewish State because they had a problem

14:26

as an anglo-jewish community

14:29

and farers and more cynically and more

14:33

sinisterly they said if there won’t be a

14:36

Jewish state in Palestine the poor Jews

14:39

that are subjected to anti-Semitism in

14:41

Central and Eastern Europe would come to

14:44

Britain God

14:46

forbid and they would are poor we would

14:50

have to take care of them after 1905 the

14:53

sense was that these pows are also Bic

14:57

so they would steer problem for Britain

14:59

as a whole and the Jewish community at

15:02

it uh and uh and therefore it’s quite

15:06

incredible to go back to the material

15:08

itself and to see it word by word

15:11

written in explaining to British policy

15:15

makers German policy makers so on this

15:18

is good for Europe because we don’t want

15:20

the poor East European Jews to come to

15:24

the west or to the United States when I

15:27

started talking looking for the origins

15:30

of uh uh the pro Zionist Lobby in in the

15:34

United States so uh this is important

15:37

because again it sounds like a distant

15:39

chapter in the past but it’s very much

15:42

irrelevant issue today isn’t it I mean

15:45

the whole uh uh connection between uh

15:49

the anglo-jewish community and uh Israel

15:52

and this whole uh walking on egg shelves

15:56

when we start we we begin to talk

15:59

earnestly and honestly and actually on

16:03

Against Racism not because we are racist

16:06

that you cannot be an ambassador and

16:08

ambassadress for Israel and at the same

16:11

time claim that all you care is for the

16:14

interest of the Anglo Jewish community

16:16

and anybody who W who points out to to

16:19

this kind of connection is immediately

16:21

branded as an anti-site or in my case as

16:24

a self-hating Jew this is something that

16:28

we should not be afraid to talk about

16:31

because this is very very important I

16:33

won’t mention name but if you are

16:35

familiar with what goes on in the labor

16:38

party now a full lobbyist for Israel is

16:42

going to be one of the most powerful

16:44

member of the labor party uh I don’t

16:48

want to get into names it’s not

16:50

important the name is not important what

16:52

is important that for 100 years people

16:55

who were part of the organization of the

16:58

lobbying for Zionism later for Israel

17:01

also played a very important role in

17:04

British politics and so no contradiction

17:07

in representing the interests of a

17:09

foreign country and a and a foreign

17:12

State and a state that commits crimes

17:14

against humanity and war crimes and at

17:17

the same time serving ASI civil servants

17:21

or politicians of of Britain everybody

17:24

says well when you’re going into this

17:26

you are going into the territory of

17:29

conspiracies and that leads us to the

17:31

old accusations of anti-Semitism against

17:34

the Jews no this is why we write books

17:36

like this this is why we insist that

17:39

this is a scholarly work pedantic work

17:43

that is not falling into any conspiracy

17:46

theories is just examining the evidence

17:49

in history to show that this is a

17:52

connection that is problematic not just

17:54

for the Palestinians but also for the

17:57

Jews in Britain and they I think we have

17:59

now a younger generation at least of

18:02

American Jews who fully comprehend and

18:05

understand this problem and fully uh uh

18:09

acknowledge that this has not served

18:11

well the American Jewish Community to be

18:14

uh uh the ambassadors and ambassadors

18:17

for Israel and they just jettisoned

18:20

their connection to Zionism and many of

18:22

them feel that in order to show where

18:25

they are today they also want to take

18:27

full part in the solidarity movement

18:30

with the Palestinians so not just saying

18:33

Judaism is not Zionism our Judaism put

18:36

us in the Forefront in the struggle for

18:39

Liberation and freedom uh uh in in

18:44

Palestine a third point that I wanted

18:47

and I I follow your your clock very

18:49

carefully here so keep it

18:53

alive it helps me um I used to think

18:58

that Socialism or social democracy and

19:02

labor movement in Britain would go

19:05

together with universal values that I

19:09

cherish human rights civil rights

19:13

workers

19:14

rights and it’s only when I went into

19:17

the history of the labor

19:21

party before the creation of the state

19:23

of Israel and especially in the early

19:26

years of statehood when the the labor

19:29

friends of Israel were established in

19:31

the early

19:33

1950s that they realized how important

19:37

was this today I think we’ll call it

19:40

gaslighting you know this Social

19:43

Democratic gaslighting what do I mean by

19:45

this you have really the the pillars of

19:49

British socialism really the pillars of

19:52

British socialism who for instance would

19:55

definitely condemn aparte in South

19:58

Africa

20:00

fully supporting Israel to the extent

20:04

that any attempt to show as rather and

20:08

her friends would uh uh any sympathy

20:13

empathy a wish to repes with the

20:15

Palestinians the wish to represent the

20:17

Palestinian cause would immediately be

20:19

destroyed by these

20:22

particular leaders of socialism in

20:25

Britain it’s it gives you some kind of a

20:29

more profound and deeper understanding

20:31

for the Jeremy Corbin or the attack on

20:34

Jeremy Corbin it’s not a new phenomenon

20:37

there are Roots there of of social

20:40

Democrats by the way not only in Britain

20:42

in Europe as a whole providing a shield

20:45

of immunity to Zionism in the name of

20:48

Social Democratic principles this is far

20:51

worse than the new than the right-wing

20:54

support for Israel the right the fascist

20:56

right-wing support that Israel enjoys to

20:58

today and maybe enjoyed a bit in the

21:00

past is easy to challenge is easy to

21:04

deal with because you immediately say

21:06

you see who the Allies are of this state

21:09

who the allies of this ideology but when

21:11

the ideology that uh is being mentioned

21:15

and quoted to explain why Israel is

21:18

supported is one that you can identify

21:21

with as a human

21:23

being H then it becomes a bit more

21:25

complicated and it was very difficult I

21:28

think for anybody challenging the the

21:31

support for Zionism and support for

21:33

Israel when it came from either liberal

21:36

or Social Democrat uh circles and and I

21:40

wasn’t aware of this how deep it went

21:43

into the labor party even before the

21:46

creation of the conservative friends of

21:48

Israel who are now the most import

21:50

important Lobby for Israel in Britain

21:52

but how important the labor friends of

21:54

Israel not to mention the specific

21:57

outfits

21:59

that joined the TU the trade Union

22:02

Council the trade unions in Britain were

22:06

uh giving affiliation to pre-state

22:09

Zionist organization whose role was

22:12

before 1948 to advocate for Zionism but

22:16

the is Israel did not dismantle them

22:18

because it turned it into part of the

22:21

lobbying for Zionism in for Israel in

22:24

Britain so you had pure Zionist

22:27

organization

22:29

having full affiliation and membership

22:32

in the TU while any attempt to even

22:34

create a at the beginning a solidarity

22:37

circle with the Palestinians in the

22:39

trade unions was rejected as political

22:43

and unacceptable un unbelievable if you

22:45

go back to it and this is a time when

22:48

people already visited Palestine and

22:50

Israel it was at the time when people

22:52

began to understand what was going on of

22:54

course it became a bit more difficult

22:56

when it was easier to visit and easier

22:58

to get information what was going on but

23:01

even then it was not yet over for the

23:04

labor party to show unconditional

23:07

support for oppression apartheid

23:10

colonization ethnic lensing and nowaday

23:13

to not to speak openly and bravely about

23:15

the genocide in Palestine shame on them

23:18

and shame on this leadership that

23:20

doesn’t even have one word to say

23:29

but it has an historical uh roote uh uh

23:33

for this and I think it’s very important

23:36

finally I think that uh I want also to

23:40

be optimistic because it’s very clear

23:42

that what I was talking about up up to

23:44

now is a huge powerful Alliance first

23:48

included Britain then the United States

23:50

then multinational

23:52

corporation the Palestinians really I

23:54

mean were

23:55

facing an alliance so powerful

23:59

economically politically

24:01

strategically and it’s all focused on

24:04

the idea of this project of displacement

24:06

and replacement displacing the

24:08

Palestinian and replacing them it’s it’s

24:11

it’s almost incredible that they are

24:13

still there fighting showing resilience

24:16

and resistance this is also what my book

24:19

taught me once and more once more that

24:21

how how unbelievable is the fact that

24:24

Palestine and the Palestinians are still

24:26

there it’s not taken for granted

24:29

but what brings me hope and for me hope

24:32

I want to explain that nobody

24:35

misunderstand what I mean for me hope

24:37

for me is the end of Israel and the

24:39

creation of a free Palestine from The

24:41

River To The

24:41

[Applause]

24:51

Sea what brings me hope is the fact that

24:55

uh the powerful Lobby and the Alliance

24:59

were very effective when it comes to

25:01

politics from

25:02

above they from the very early on they

25:05

understand that all they have to do is

25:06

follow politicians at the early stages

25:09

of their career making sure that they

25:11

are allies in the later stage in their

25:14

career using money influence uh uh

25:17

intimidation if needed in order to get

25:20

whether the American or the British

25:23

political system to abide by their

25:27

demands how ever they find it very

25:30

difficult and always found it very

25:31

difficult to deal with the Civil Society

25:34

they know don’t know how to deal with

25:36

alternative media today they have no

25:38

idea how to deal with it they don’t know

25:40

how to deal with civil society with

25:43

communal action with boycott initiatives

25:47

with divestment initiatives all their

25:50

methodology all the Weaponry that the

25:53

all the Armory that they have is useless

25:56

it seems against people that should

25:58

gives us hope and the hope is that

26:02

probably this is not the only issue uh

26:06

in which the politicians of this

26:08

particular era are not representing us

26:10

well I don’t remember as an

26:13

historian at an age like this when

26:16

politics and I’m generalizing of course

26:18

that politicians were of such a low

26:21

caliber intellectually morally

26:26

corrupt shallow reductionist people who

26:29

have very little to offer their society

26:32

apart from their own careers it doesn’t

26:34

matter which party it’s really uh a a a

26:38

the age of of the the the the the the

26:41

lack of any status for the politicians

26:45

so their ideas of how to deal with

26:48

global warming how to deal with poverty

26:51

how to deal with issues that really

26:53

trouble people are not very interesting

26:56

and are not very successful and are not

26:58

very effective because they don’t care

27:00

about these issues they care about their

27:02

own careers it’s not surprising that

27:05

also their ideas about Palestine are

27:08

irrelevant and are harmful and negative

27:11

so we should hope that when people

27:13

struggle against this Lobby they’re also

27:16

struggling against Lobby other lobbies

27:19

that make their life miserable and un

27:22

and disable them to solve problems of

27:25

poverty ecological danger in injustices

27:29

in society beyond the question of

27:31

Palestine I think this explains why so

27:34

many people are galvanized behind the

27:36

Palestine question as symbolizing

27:38

struggle against injustices anywhere

27:40

else in the world as well and Palestine

27:43

is an indication that there is a

27:47

different kind of politics that we would

27:50

wish for ourselves for our next

27:52

Generations and that’s why so many hopes

27:55

are pinned on the Palestinian Liberation

27:57

movement sometimes probably un

28:00

unreasonably actually that Palestine

28:02

would be the you know the Paragon state

28:05

that all the other failed decolonized

28:07

world uh was unable to to fulfill but it

28:10

explains because this isn’t a demand for

28:13

a different kind of politicians and a

28:17

different kind of the idea what is

28:18

universal justice this is the Big

28:20

Challenge the icj and the IC are having

28:23

it’s not it’s not a coincidence that for

28:27

the first time they at least provided a

28:29

stage for what people think about

28:31

Palestine and not governments if you

28:33

think about it and they did it

28:35

intentionally I talked with them some of

28:37

them they did it intentionally they

28:39

wanted to show that trib International

28:42

tribunals are also listening to people

28:44

not just to the politics of power

28:46

hopefully this is just the beginning of

28:49

a process that would lead for a better

28:52

world first of all for the Palestinians

28:54

and then for all of us thank you

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0:00

um I just want to ask you this Putin peace plan is not really a peace plan what he’s saying is all the land I have

0:07

illegally stolen I want to keep isn’t that what it boils down

0:12

to well there are two issues uh one is no NATO enlargement and the second is

0:21

this territorial issue it involves Crimea and what they claim is four

0:28

regions of Russia to my mind this is overwhelmingly about the first issue is

0:34

about NATO because that’s been the issue on the table for 30 years territory was

0:40

not on the table until two years ago but for 30 years NATO was on the table I

0:47

think the territorial issues if I may say uh are probably negotiable at least

0:54

in part of course there’s been a war going on for 10 years now and an

1:00

escalation during the last two years I think the non-negotiable parts of what

1:05

Putin is saying I would guess really non-negotiable so we have to think about them is that NATO will not enlarge to

1:14

Ukraine and I think Crimea is non-negotiable for uh Russia’s uh core

1:22

security uh interests and perceptions and history so I think what’s really

1:30

absolutely core to what President Putin is saying is he would like to stop the

1:36

war he doesn’t want to take over Ukraine he doesn’t want to take more of Ukraine

1:42

uh on the combat line right now on the contact line he doesn’t control all four

1:48

of these provinces and I doubt uh that he would insist on that I do think that

1:55

he would uh uh hold out for Crimea almost every Western analyst and expert

2:02

agrees with that and there are many reasons for that but what I do think is at the core of this all along was Russia

2:12

throughout its history has always believed in keeping some safety from the

2:19

West which has repeatedly invaded uh Russia and after the end of the Soviet

2:26

Union in 1991 the US and Germany had said to

2:32

gorbachov and to yelson we won’t expand Nato one inch Eastward but then uh like

2:42

always with the United States they they lied they cheated and they started the expansion and then the Russians I

2:50

was observing this all along the first expansions which were in Central Europe

2:57

didn’t come too close to Russia and they said we don’t like that you cheated you

3:03

told us no uh but okay that’s Hungary Poland and Czech Republic that was 1999

3:09

under Clinton but then it just kept coming and kept coming and kept coming and they said with

3:16

rising decb and uh Rising fervor stop

3:22

coming closer and their ultimate red line has been consistent it is Ukraine

3:30

and Georgia why well it it goes back peers to uh the British Empire to 1853

3:39

to 1856 actually to Lord Palmerston he had an idea surround Russia in the Black Sea

3:47

uh render Russia’s Fleet in the Black Sea in seast stopel which was there in

3:53

18 53 just like it’s there in 2024

3:58

render it essentially inoperable control the Dells this is a long story uh and

4:05

then Russia is a second or third rate power and President Putin is responding

4:11

to what has been a a British Imperial attempt for uh 175 years and a US

4:20

attempt since 1991 basically to surround Russia with

4:27

NATO and what Putin has been saying is don’t do that stop leave Ukraine as a uh

4:35

a kind of buffer zone uh and Ukraine was perfectly happy with that and public

4:41

opinion was perfectly happy with that and they didn’t want to join NATO and in 2009 they elected Victor yanukovich who

4:48

promised them neutrality which was the promise that Ukraine itself had made in

4:53

declaring its independence that they would be permanently a neutral country because they’re in between

5:00

West and East they’re in between Europe and Western Europe or the European Union

5:05

and Russia so they wanted just okay we’ll be we’ll be neutral but then the

5:12

United States did team up to overthrow yanukovich in February 2014 and that’s

5:19

when this war started that’s when Russia stopped saying well we’ll lease a base

5:25

in Crimea rather we’ll take back Crimea we don’t want it to fall into NATO hands

5:31

just like thear did not want uh saastal to fall into Palmer’s hands uh so this

5:39

is basically a long long story I think the rest is negotiable uh I basically

5:46

think either the US and Europe don’t understand what they’re doing which is

5:52

not impossible or they’re still on what has

5:58

been a 30-year neocon agenda which I know about in detail which is get NATO all the way to

6:07

surround Russia because that was the plan of big new binski and Dick Cheney and others going right back to the 1990s

6:14

they still want to do it and they think they can still accomplish this did not

6:19

say I’m going to take all all right with respect you given a very very long answer but I come back to my initial

6:26

question which is ultimately you know I I’m listen you’ve been

6:31

through a lot of the history there and some of the points are arguable but a lot of people I’ve heard Express similar

6:38

sentiments about some of the background to this and about Russia’s concern about the encroachment of NATO and so on but

6:45

it it doesn’t change the fact that Russia illegally invaded a European Sovereign Democratic country that has

6:53

helped itself to vast sways of the land and that latest polls show that the vast

6:59

majority Ukrainian people do not want to seed an inch of the land that’s been taken to Vladimir Putin or the Russians

7:07

and yeah he can say I was concerned about NATO encroachment but NATO hadn’t

7:13

actually encroached so he is preemptively doing this and if ultimately he’s allowed to take this

7:20

land what message does that send the rest of the world rest of Europe the other neighboring countries to Ukraine

7:27

why should we have any confidence after Crimea after after Georgia after Ukraine now that he wouldn’t just carry on

7:32

attacking and invading other neighboring countries that’s where I find your I wouldn’t say trust I don’t think that’s

7:39

the right word but you seem very reliant on accepting Putin’s world view rather

7:45

than perhaps the Stark reality of the barbarism with which he’s executed this

7:52

war yeah may maybe because I know too much about the United States because the

7:58

first war in Europe Europe after World War II was the US bombing of Belgrade for 78 days to change borders of a

8:07

European State the idea was to break Serbia to create uh Kosovo as an enclave

8:16

and then to install Bond steel which is the largest NATO base in the Balkans in

8:24

the southwest Balkans so the US started this under Clinton uh that uh we will

8:31

break the borders we will illegally bomb another country we didn’t have any un

8:37

Authority this was a quote NATO mission to do that then I know the United States

8:43

uh went to war repeatedly illegally uh in uh what it did in Afghanistan and

8:50

then what it did in Iraq uh and then what it did in Syria which was uh the

8:58

Obama Administration especially Obama and Hillary Clinton tasking the CIA to

9:03

overthrow Bashar al-assad and then what it did with NATO illegally bombing Libya

9:11

to topple morar Gaddafi uh and then what it did in Kiev in February 2014 I happen

9:20

to see some of that with my own eyes the US overthrew yanukovich together with

9:27

right-wing Ukrainian military forces we overthrew a president

9:33

and what’s interesting by the way is we overthrew yanukovich the day after the

9:39

European Union Representatives had reached an agreement with yanukovich to

9:46

have early elections a government of national unity and a standown of both

9:54

sides that was agreed the next thing that happens is the oppos oppos quote

10:00

unquote says we don’t agree they stormed the government buildings and they deposed yanukovich

10:09

and within hours the United States says yes we support the new government it didn’t say oh we had an agreement that’s

10:16

unconstitutional what you did uh so we overthrew a government contrary to a

10:23

promise that the European Union had made and by the way uh Russia the United

10:29

States and the EU were parties to that agreement and the United States an hour

10:35

afterwards backed the coup okay so everyone’s got a little bit to answer

10:41

for in 2015 the uh Russians did not say we want

10:48

the dboss back they said Peace should come through negotiations and

10:55

negotiations between the ethnic Russians in the east of Ukraine and this uh new

11:03

regime in Kiev led to the Minsk two agreement the Minsk 2 agreement was

11:11

voted by the UN Security Council unanimously it was signed by the

11:17

government of Ukraine it was guaranteed explicitly by Germany and France and you

11:26

know what and it’s been explained to me in in person it was laughed at inside

11:32

the US government this is after the UN Security Council unanimously accepted it

11:38

the ukrainians said we don’t want to give autonomy to the region oh but that’s part of the treaty the US told

11:44

them don’t worry about it Angela Merkel explained in desite uh in a notorious

11:52

interview uh after the 2022 escalation she said oh you know we knew that Minsk

12:00

2 was just a a a holding pattern to give Ukraine time to build its strength no uh

12:08

Minsk 2 was a un Security Council unanimously adopted treaty that was supposed to end the war

12:15

so when it comes to who’s trustworthy who to believe and so forth I guess my

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problem pures is I know the United States government uh I know it very well I don’t trust them for a moment I want

12:28

these two sides actually to sit down in front of the whole world and say these

12:34

are the terms then the world can judge because we could get on paper clearly

12:39

for both sides of the world we’re not going to overthrow governments anymore

12:45

the United States needs to say we accept this agreement the United States needs to say Russia needs to say we’re not

12:51

stepping one foot further than whatever the boundary is actually reached and

12:57

NATO is not going to enlarge and let’s put it for the whole world to see you know once in a while treaties actually

13:04

hold an argument okay I listen I hear you and it’s an argument you’ve espoused

13:10

on Russian State TV for as well I’ve heard you do that yeah um absolutely I tell it everywhere right so and that’s

13:17

fine you’ve been consistent I I get that but actually isn’t this if you look at it a different way a perfect

13:23

illustration of why there should be NATO encroachment actually because if you go

13:28

through through the history since the start of World War II in 1939 it was Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union that

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invaded Poland 1940 Soviet Union invaded the baltics 1940 Soviet Union annexed

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parts of Romania 56 Soviet Union invaded Hungary 68 Soviet Union invaded

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Czechoslovakia now Poland Estonia Lithuania Lavia Romania Hungary or

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Czechoslovakia did not invade Russia or the Soviet Union no threat emanated from

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countries but they were attacked by the USSR strike Russia and that’s why these

14:04

countries wanted to join NATO and since they join NATO none of them has been attacked by Russia again so if you were

14:11

putting all that into the mix here you might say that’s a perfect illustration of NATO power deterring Russian

14:19

aggression and that actually if Ukraine had speeded up uh its membership of NATO

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uh which many of the people in Ukraine were actually Keen to do if it had done that it might have had the protection

14:33

against the illegal Invasion by Russia so in a way you could flip your argument on its head and say it almost proves the

14:40

opposite which is that by by not being part of NATO Ukraine was vulnerable to the very attack that then happened just

14:47

as it lost Crimea uh and my fear with Putin is I don’t trust him as far as I could throw him I take your point about

14:53

russan about American uh military activity I was the editor of the Daily Mirror news news paper in England which

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led the campaign against the Iraq War which I thought was a senseless illegal

15:05

uh Invasion as well and I I’ve been very critical of America yeah so you know it’s not like I’m a great U cheerleader

15:12

for for what America’s done on the military stage but purely looking at this situation with Ukraine I just I

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just don’t see why allowing Putin to keep all this land is a good

15:23

thing yeah I I’d ask you to consider uh a couple more dates uh one is a

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1955 fascinating date because in 1955 uh Austria very cleverly uh agreed

15:41

to permanent neutrality on the basis that the Soviet

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Union would go home and in the state treaty they adopted neutrality and the

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Soviet Union went home and that’s why Austria wasn’t part of the Iron Curtain

15:58

for the dec that followed because they adopted neutrality and non-nato

16:03

membership now it’s fascinating and I don’t want to take us into a long digression but the idea of the Soviet

16:11

Union then was actually not only with regard to Austria but it was more

16:18

strategic what they were saying was do the same with Germany which just killed

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27 million of our people after all this was 1955 was just 10 years years from

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the end of World War III neutralize Germany don’t make Germany a rearmed

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Cornerstone of something called NATO but make Germany neutral and then we can end

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the Cold War and this was no less the recommend or the recommendation of no

16:50

less I should say than George cannan himself uh the author of containment

16:57

George Kon for years in the second half of the 1950s said we’re missing the most obvious point a

17:04

neutral Germany the Cold War could end he went on wreath lectures in BBC to say

17:12

this I think it was 1957 if I remember correctly and this is fascinating we

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missed the opportunity to end the Cold War decades earlier the other date that

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I would urge you to think about is 1962 when the Soviet Union came close to

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the United States in Cuba the US said

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Monro Doctrine you don’t come anywhere close to our hemisphere we nearly had

17:41

nuclear Armageddon in 1962 the Soviet Union was doing nothing

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different from what the United States was doing in Turkey it was placing nuclear

17:54

offensive missiles or weapons near the border of the adversary I actually Kev

18:02

said I don’t want war with them I just want to do what they’re doing to us it nearly led to nuclear Annihilation it’s

18:09

good for superpowers to keep a little distance the United States is

18:15

expansionist if you say the Russians are expansionist or the Soviet Union is

18:20

expansionist keep a little space between them and that’s what President Putin has

18:26

been saying for more than two decades keep a little space be prudent we don’t

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want the United States right up against our border and the US has really

18:40

provoked it not only overthrowing a Ukrainian president bad judgment in my

18:46

opinion but also unilaterally walking out of the anti-ballistic missile treaty

18:51

in 2002 unilaterally placing agis missiles in Poland and Romania and when

18:59

Russia say what are you doing you’re breaking the whole security architecture the US says and I quote it’s none of

19:08

your business what we do NATO’s none of your business Russia that’s the formal

19:13

literal position of the United States of America that we can go anywhere with any

19:20

Third Country including Ukraine or Georgia we can put our missiles wherever we want it’s none of your business

19:27

Russia well come on purs this is going to get us all blown up if we don’t have a little bit more common sense okay but

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here’s what I’m here’s what I’m Str by Professor yeah I talked to you a couple of times I find you fascinating to talk

19:40

to you by the way and and I I know you have a deep knowledge of all this all be you have some interpretation of of

19:47

what’s going on that’s different to what I have but I respect your knowledge um and your scholarship on this but I’m

19:53

just struck that your language towards Russia and Putin is nowhere near as sensor ious as it is about uh America

20:02

about your own country it’s true and I but I but I think that you know what I sit here in England and think it’s so

20:08

weird to see such a learned American Professor who seems to think that a Russ that that America is the real problem

20:16

here not Vladimir Putin and Russia when many other people would think the complete

20:22

opposite Piers the problem is uh I I was

20:27

born in 1954 for and I’ve seen nothing but us Wars of choice and CIA Ops my

20:35

whole life and since I became a International Development specialist

20:40

more than 40 years ago I’ve seen many of them up close and I’m tired of them you

20:46

know a very good book written in uh 2017 by a professor at Boston College

20:52

named Lindsay oor has the title covert regime change she studies peers no fewer

21:02

than 64 covert regime change operations by

21:08

the United States almost all of them CIA LED 64 During the period

21:15

1947 to 1989 I’ve had heads of state say to me

21:21

personally peers they’re G to they’re going to take

21:27

me out was the term that one of them used and I assured them this president

21:33

in it was Haiti Haitian president there no no no no we’re going to get all this

21:39

sorted out in my naive way they walked this President this was ared out to an

21:47

unmarked plane flew him 23 hours in this coup that the US arranged to Central

21:55

African Republic and in broad daylight launched a coup and when I tried to get

22:02

the New York Times to at least cover the story I wanted to read read about it I was told by the reporter on the beat oh

22:10

our editors aren’t interested in that so you can have coups in broad daylight

22:16

I’ve seen the United States launch Wars all over the world that Americans and

22:24

others don’t even know were caused by the United States it was only decades

22:29

after the fact that Z big binski told us that he had urged

22:36

successfully Jimmy Carter to support the jihadists the mujahadin to try to

22:43

overthrow the government in Afghanistan in 1979 to lure the Soviets into a trap

22:50

that would be their Vietnam we messed up Afghanistan for more than four decades in that little typical us regime change

22:59

if you feel okay but Professor look here’s my question if you feel so angry

23:04

about so many as you put it illegal military operations invasions whatever

23:10

you want to call them by the United States why do you not also feel that same level of anger When Vladimir Putin

23:17

for whatever political reasons he wants to come up with about fears of NATO encroachment blah blah blah when he

23:24

launches a fullscale invasion of Ukraine which is now a sovereign Democratic

23:31

European country and K well it’s not a democratic country but it’s a it had a

23:36

democratic election far more democratic than Russia it did it did a while ago it did a while ago now under martial law it

23:44

was certainly far more of a well before the War Began it was certainly far more of a democracy than Russia has been in

23:50

recent decades you would certainly accept that wouldn’t you look I I think the point is so my

23:58

project my point is why why are you not as why are you not as censorious about Putin doing the thing that you feel so

24:04

angry about what you say America’s done all I want is when Putin says we’ll

24:13

negotiate and hear our terms I want the United States to say We’ll negotiate but

24:19

we have different terms but we’ll sit down with you that’s all I’m asking yeah but his terms his terms as reported by

24:25

Russian State media on Friday the complete with withdrawal of Ukrainian troops from the territories of donet

24:31

Lans zapara and kerson after which peace negotiations can begin I mean that’s you

24:39

know what I I don’t believe it that’s just taking taking a quarter of the country or even a third and say I want

24:45

to keep it okay yeah so what are our terms for

24:52

negotiations you this is negotiations you don’t get to keep any of it would be my terms

24:59

well fine but the bottom line is something else the bottom Line’s really about NATO so this is you know if if the

25:07

plan okay but that’s my point my point is if the plan if the if the plan of Biden is of course we’re going to keep

25:15

pushing NATO then there’s no peace then we’re just in in open War and the one that dies is Ukraine in the end but

25:23

maybe maybe or maybe rather like all these other countries that the Soviet Union invaded maybe if Ukraine becomes a

25:30

fully paid up member of NATO it actually stops Russia from being so aggressive

25:36

constantly whether it was crime here in 2014 or whether it’s all these areas now in other words you you know power in

25:43

power in telling you yeah I I I’m telling you the following in my

25:51

assessment yeah uh if uh first of all it can’t become a member of NATO in the

25:57

midst of a war that is anyway NATO Doctrine but if they if they if they took Ukraine as a member of NATO uh we

26:05

will end up in nuclear war uh just like we nearly ended up in nuclear war over the Cuban Missile Crisis would itth why

26:13

would we for the same reasons we didn’t because for in the Cuban Missile re because Common Sense prevailed right no

26:20

it did by the way it almost didn’t Prevail every everyone was for war except for a very small handful of

26:28

people including thank God John F Kennedy and Nikita kushev and that was

26:33

just about all that saved the world but the reason is for Russia Ukraine is

26:39

their 2,100 kilometer border and they view this as an existential issue I can

26:45

tell you for the US this is a game this is the game of Risk if you know that

26:51

board game this is big brin’s game spelled out in

26:56

1997 in his article in foreign affairs called a strategy for Eurasia let’s

27:03

Corner Russia this is their game for Russia this is existential this is right

27:10

on their border they don’t want the United States right on their border again again sorry to jump in but again

27:16

again this is your interpretation of that but the other interpretation could be the other interpretation is that to

27:21

stop Russia invading its neighboring countries that’s what NATO is about and

27:26

it’s proven very successful all those countries that attacked before haven’t been attacked since because

27:32

they’re part of NATO so this is this is it could be it’s the other argument

27:37

could be but it no you’re right you’re right but then it could be nuclear war

27:43

that’s all I’m saying but why would why would okay why would Vladimir Putin who is apparently Elon Musk says he’s the

27:49

richest man on earth and loves his material things whether it’s Shadows or

27:55

super Yachts or whatever it may be why would somebody with that mentality in other words not an Islamic fundamentalist who has nothing who wants

28:02

to kill himself for the cause and believes he’s going to you know meet 70 virgins up in in uh in wherever they end

28:09

up going um why is somebody with Putin’s materialistic capitalistic mentality why

28:16

would he even contemplate Armageddon and losing everything that’s that’s not what he’s about he hasn’t got that mentality

28:23

he’s not someone he’s not a suicide bomber is he well I think it it’s useful for all

28:31

of us uh and you and uh everybody listening to go

28:36

online and read a a memorandum by one of our best diplomats William Burns who

28:44

happens now to be CIA director but in 2008 was the US ambassador to Russia and

28:52

he wrote a secret memo back to condalisa Rice Secretary of State

28:58

uh Julian Assange enabled all of us to see the real discussion not The

29:05

Superficial pattern and narrative and he explained this isn’t about Putin this

29:11

question of NATO this is the entire Russian political class everybody and

29:18

the the N the memo famously is called net means net that for Russia this isn’t

29:25

Putin this isn’t one person this isn’t to Lark this is viewed by Russia as

29:32

existential this is viewed by Russia as do not stand on our borders period

29:40

especially now that the United States has abandoned unilaterally the

29:46

anti-ballistic missile treaty it has abandoned the international nuclear force now stoltenberg is

29:55

who’s well anyway he’s just parting the US saying we we are going to stock up on

30:01

our nuclear armaments they’re not going to accept it’s not Putin it’s Russia and

30:09

by the way you would feel the same way in their position and the United States

30:16

absolutely felt the same way when that was tested and we have this Doctrine by

30:22

the way which is even more remarkable since 18 23 we’ve said

30:30

no foreign powers in the entire Western Hemisphere not just on our border but

30:35

the entire Western Hemisphere and that doctrine that Monroe Doctrine was reiterated I was sitting there when

30:42

Donald Trump reiterated that in the UN General Assembly that was for the whole

30:47

Western Hemisphere so it’s perfectly understandable and it’s not about Putin

30:54

this is it’s about Russia’s Absolut solute core National Security don’t come

31:01

up to our border perfectly sensible

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Israel’s Army has officially admitted it

0:03

has lost the war that’s what the latest

0:05

admission from the official Israeli

0:07

military spokes person amounts to now

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remember the big official military

0:12

objectives set by Israel from the very

0:14

start firstly secure the release of

0:16

hostages by military means well Israel

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has killed far more Israeli hostages by

0:21

military means than it’s rescued by

0:23

military means with the vast majority of

0:25

those who were freed were so because of

0:28

prisoner exchanges and a ceasefire now

0:32

the other official military aim was the

0:35

military defeat of Hamas now 8 and a

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half months later yes they’ve

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slaughtered tens of thousands of people

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yes many of them children yes they’ve

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wiped most of Gaza from the face of the

0:45

Earth yes they’ve severely maimed and

0:47

injured countless numbers yes they’ve

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imposed Mass starvation on the

0:52

Palestinian people alongside the

0:54

deprivation of the essentials of Life

0:55

yes they preached incarcerated and

0:58

tortured so many yes they violently

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crushed the medical system yes we could

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go

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on but they’ve done all of that but they

1:07

haven’t defeated Hamas not even close

1:11

and they’re never going to militarily

1:12

defeat Hamas now if you don’t believe me

1:16

listen and said to Brigadier General

1:18

Daniel hagari spokesperson for the

1:20

so-called Israel Defense Forces as he

1:22

told channel 43 news one of Israel’s

1:25

main news stations the following the

1:28

idea of destroying Hamas is simply

1:29

throwing sand in the eyes of the public

1:31

Hamas is an idea Hamas is a political

1:34

party it is rooted in the hearts of

1:37

people whoever thinks we can eliminate

1:40

Hamas is mistaken Hamas is the Muslim

1:42

Brotherhood it’s been around for many

1:45

many years well no

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Einstein du this is something those of

1:53

us who oppos this genocidal ons have

1:54

been saying from the very start Hamas

1:57

emerged as a product of Palestinian

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suffering of Palestinian Misery the

1:59

product of languishing under a

2:01

relentlessly brutal occupation of an

2:03

Israeli state which violently prevents

2:05

Palestinian national self-determination

2:06

now except that’s not what Daniel hagari

2:09

was saying but the point is the absolute

2:11

key point is this is not some military

2:14

force which you just pick off and that’s

2:16

the end of that one it is rooted in

2:18

Palestinian Society it an idea which is

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where I’m think we would dis disagree

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and it’s not to support Hamas in any

2:27

shape or form is that it is a product

2:30

of Palestinian

2:32

suffering and if you wish that to change

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then you have to abolish Palestinian

2:37

suffering now as I’ve previously

2:39

reported us intelligence officials have

2:42

privately been briefing that as well as

2:43

the Israeli State killing fewer Hamas

2:45

militants and claimed hamas’s ranks are

2:47

replenished by new militants because of

2:50

one of the many consequences of engaging

2:51

in Mass Slaughter is that many of the

2:53

loved ones the survivors of those

2:55

butched who’ve got nothing to lose most

2:57

of them didn’t even have homes to go

2:59

back to become determined to fight those

3:01

who have drowned their people in so much

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blood for the rest of their lives in

3:04

many cases now hagari also says that it

3:07

will be impossible to return all the

3:09

Israeli hostages being held in Gaza

3:11

through military operations saying we

3:13

have to reach a scenario where the

3:14

hostages are returned another manner

3:15

again it’s just offensive isn’t it it’s

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just deeply deeply offensive all of the

3:20

things that we’ve said from day one

3:22

being just repeated back by those who

3:25

have prosecuted a genocidal War which

3:28

has achieved none of its aims and has

3:31

succeeded in slaughtering huge numbers

3:33

of people and isolating Israel across

3:37

the world and making it

3:39

a fig a a a state which Western public

3:43

opinion has decisively turned against

3:45

which matters for Israel because who’s

3:47

it getting its weapons and diplomatic

3:49

support for now the last such operation

3:52

last such hostage operation um he was

3:55

referring to there slaughtered perhaps

3:56

up to 300 Palestinians many of them

3:58

children as well as Ming many others and

4:01

meant the odds of a deal to release

4:02

other hostages has massively gone down

4:04

meaning other hostages are more likely

4:06

to end up killed indeed potentially

4:08

killed Again by Israel’s military

4:10

Onslaught what needs to happen instead

4:11

is a permanent ceasefire and a prisoner

4:13

exchange not least those Palestinian

4:15

hostages and let’s call them that who

4:16

are being held by Israel including

4:18

children indeed we’ just had reports for

4:20

example about Dr IAD rany the director

4:23

of Kamal adan’s Hospital maternity

4:25

Department he was killed it transpires

4:28

in November last year after he was

4:29

abducted by Israeli troops and there are

4:31

now demands to investigate the alleged

4:35

torture that he suffered in fact being

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tortured to death that’s the second

4:39

Palestinian doct known to have been

4:40

killed in Israeli custody well before we

4:42

continue though don’t give this man

4:44

Daniel hagari any credit he has been a

4:46

propagandist for one of the great

4:47

horrors of our age and he should go to

4:49

prison along with the rest of Israel’s

4:52

establishment he goes on to say what

4:55

could be done is to develop something

4:56

else to replace Hamas something that

4:58

will make the population realiz Iz that

5:00

something else is Distributing the food

5:02

someone else is taking care of Public

5:03

Services to really weaken Hamas this is

5:05

the way so what is really zoning in on

5:08

here is a split in Israeli establishment

5:09

because Netanyahu is refusing a postwar

5:13

plan largely because he fears that when

5:14

the war ends he will be toppled from

5:16

power and could end up going to prison

5:18

either in Israel or abroad but this is

5:20

let’s just put it kindly desperately

5:21

naive stuff because he suggesting the

5:23

occupies impose a new Administration

5:25

either directly by the Israeli state or

5:28

a collaborating administ ation and that

5:30

will offer an alternative to Hamas and

5:32

therefore hamas’s basis will disappear

5:35

well it just shows his education has

5:36

only gone so far that will that would be

5:39

seen such an Administration for what it

5:41

is a continued occupation by the Israeli

5:43

State and a continued war on Palestinian

5:45

national self-determination it too will

5:47

end up being fought by the Palestinian

5:48

people in Gaza whether through Hamas or

5:51

through other factions factions that

5:53

exist or new factions it’s just beyond

5:55

delusional to suggest otherwise and it

5:57

again we were right all along about all

5:59

of this

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so I think maybe Daniel hagari should

6:03

listen to the people who are right from

6:04

day one so then Israel’s prime minister

6:06

Netanyahu whose arrest for war crimes

6:10

and crimes against humanity is being

6:11

sought by the international Criminal

6:13

Court’s Chief prosecutor Ruff the spokes

6:15

person here declaring the political and

6:17

security cabinet headed by prime

6:19

minister nanahu defined as one of the

6:21

goals of the war the destruction of

6:22

hamas’s military and governmental

6:24

capabilities so netanyahu’s real clear

6:27

position there as a war of annihilation

6:28

that you simply have to keep on waging

6:29

warrant on the impossible military defe

6:31

of Hamas which in practice means you

6:33

just ethnically cleanse or murder every

6:34

last Palestinian which is why we have a

6:37

genocide now let’s just listen to this

6:39

absolutely extraordinary attack by

6:41

Netanyahu on President Joe Biden’s us

6:45

Administration when secretary Lincoln

6:47

was recently here in Israel we had a

6:49

candid conversation I said I deeply

6:52

appreciated the support the US has given

6:54

Israel from the beginning of the war but

6:56

I also said something else I said it’s

6:59

inconceivable that in the past few

7:01

months the Administration has been

7:04

withholding weapons and ammunitions to

7:06

Israel Israel America’s closest Ally

7:09

fighting for its life fighting against

7:10

Iran and our other common enemies

7:13

secretary blinkin assured me that the

7:16

administration is working day and night

7:17

to remove these bottle legs I certainly

7:20

hope that’s the case it should be the

7:22

case during World War II Churchill told

7:25

the United States give us the tools

7:26

we’ll do the job and I say give us the

7:29

tools and will finish the job a lot

7:33

faster firstly can I say this guy really

7:35

does come across like Kevin Spacey’s

7:37

character in House of Cards like such a

7:39

transparently malevolent character do

7:42

you know what I mean it’s just not not

7:43

that subtle I mean just look how he

7:45

bites the hand that feeds him the lack

7:46

of gratitude the US has poured weapons

7:48

into Israel to facilitate its Mass

7:50

Slaughter and destruction of Gaza and

7:53

the mass huge war crimes and crimes

7:56

against humanity involved it’s offered

7:58

vast sums of Aid diplomatic take

7:59

political support and in fact Biden

8:02

frankly has suffered terrible political

8:04

damage as a consequence and may well

8:06

lose a presidency because of it all and

8:08

then Netanyahu Comes Out Swinging like

8:09

this and then the BET bid Administration

8:12

announces that it had canceled a high

8:14

level meeting with Israel adding the

8:15

decision but this is privately briefing

8:17

because they’re not going to say it

8:18

publicly are they no instead they just

8:20

do these little whisperings off off

8:21

stage nods and Winks it disillusion

8:24

voters this decision makes it clear that

8:26

there are such consequences for pulling

8:28

such stunts oh oh a council meeting

8:31

Goodness Me Goodness Me So Israel can

8:33

commit countless war crimes and crimes

8:35

against humanity in Plains I and frankly

8:37

as I think most of us would agree a

8:39

genocide but then if Biden gets

8:41

embarrassed by a video then they declare

8:44

the US privately wimps there are

8:46

consequences for pulling such stunts

8:48

which is again to emphasize council

8:50

meeting I bet Netanyahu is trembling in

8:52

his boots and then the US press

8:54

secretary Karen jeanpierre says we

8:57

generally do not know what he’s talking

8:59

about about uh we just don’t a couple of

9:01

things that I do want to add and you’re

9:03

right there was one particular uh

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shipment of Munitions that was paused

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and you’ve heard us talk about that many

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times we continue we continue to have

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these constructive discussions with is

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Israelis for the release of that

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particular uh um uh shipment that I just

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mentioned and don’t have any updates on

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that uh there are no other pauses none

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no other pauses or holds in place uh so

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as secretary blinkin said today he held

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uh he took some questions from some of

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your colleagues and and took and um and

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talk book to the Press obviously

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everything else is moving in due process

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so spons is actually no no we have been

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arming them to the no seriously we’ve be

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giving loads of weapons as they

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prosecute their genocide of Rampage well

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I hope lawyers are noting all of this

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down the fact is Israel has committed

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some of the worst atrocities of the 21st

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century every day for weeks for months

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in full public View and with a direct

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complicity and involv of the United

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States of America’s Administration and

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its European allies including the

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British government it has failed

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catastrophically failed in it stated War

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aims and we said all this from the start

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everything we said was right we don’t

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say that out of any triumphalism what

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Vindication did we get just Mass death

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the point is that those who made

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themselves willing accomplishes to this

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great crime of our age have to be held

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accountable they can’t be allowed to get

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away with it either the Israeli state or

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those who aided and ab bettered them

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that’s the point the this was a crime a

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great a grave grave crime which wasn’t

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just on the Israeli State and isn’t just

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on the Israeli State it’s on everybody

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who made it possible (…)

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